can anyone tell me how much to grind off of the passenger side front diff to do the soa and can I use shims instead of turning the knucke to regain proper caster?

Well, AFAIK if you shim it your pinion will dive for the dirt

Originally posted by mike
Well, AFAIK if you shim it your pinion will dive for the dirt


Yep, either deal with negative caster, or turn the knuckles.

Originally posted by afrobinder
can anyone tell me how much to grind off of the passenger side front diff to do the soa and can I use shims instead of turning the knucke to regain proper caster? Enough to weld aperch on. You must turn the knuckle.

A: obviously you know how to weld.
B: obviously you know how to use a grinder.

Grinding around the weld to twist the knuckle is easier than grinding the diff so just do it.

If you plan on doing it right, let us know if you have any questions. It's really pretty easy.

Just kep grinding till you see a hair line crack. Your first one could take a little while, if you take your time. The other one probably won't take half the time.

Trust me- DON"T SHIM IT! It will handle like a scalded dog:eek: My daughters SII was soa when we bought it and the axle was shimmed and I couldn't keep it on the road.

If you're going to stay std width, grind and turn the axle!

Originally posted by Rubicrawler
Trust me- DON"T SHIM IT! It will handle like a scalded dog:eek: My daughters SII was soa when we bought it and the axle was shimmed and I couldn't keep it on the road.

If you're going to stay std width, grind and turn the axle!

Actually, shimming is fine, as long as you build in enough caster when you clock the yokes to allow the reduction in caster caused by the shims. I built in about 13 degrees in the yokes, so my 7 degree shims I welded to my spring padsturned my caster back to 5 or 6 degrees, just about right.

one advantage of shims is that you can weld the driver side to the inside edge of the sping pad, so the center pin hole lines up with the springs better. 7 or 8 degree shims are thick enough that you only need to take a little off the head of the center pin so the center pin will not bottom out against the spring pad. Saves having to redrill the spring pad. Not that that is a big issue, but it saves a little time...

I think Mark was refering to shimming a stock axle, with NO cut-n-turn for with castor, or pinion angle.


As we all know, that either kills your u-joint angle, or kills your caster.




Welding the shim as we did was to facilitate the GM SOA and get the proper pinion angle for what we needed, we then did a cut-n-turn to set the caster. (yes, I know you know this pat, that was for the benifit of others that are reading this)

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
I think Mark was refering to shimming a stock axle, with NO cut-n-turn for with castor, or pinion angle.



Thanks RW! The shim isn't a problem in itself if you do the other necessary mods.

Thanks for all the help I'm going to pull the front end tomorrow and start.

Originally posted by afrobinder
Thanks for all the help I'm going to pull the front end tomorrow and start.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out :)

Originally posted by afrobinder
Thanks for all the help I'm going to pull the front end tomorrow and start.

What did you decide to do? And, are you wheeling with us on the 19th.

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
I think Mark was refering to shimming a stock axle, with NO cut-n-turn for with castor, or pinion angle.


As we all know, that either kills your u-joint angle, or kills your caster.




Welding the shim as we did was to facilitate the GM SOA and get the proper pinion angle for what we needed, we then did a cut-n-turn to set the caster. (yes, I know you know this pat, that was for the benifit of others that are reading this)

Is that what we did? Too long ago, I don't remember. Just remember something about Kevin using a laser or something to cut the welds out, me wailing on the yokes to beat them off, and then the rest is just a blur....

SO WHERE IS EVERYONE GOING ON THE 19th...?

Did I yell loud enough?

My rig is almost ready to bleed the brakes...tune up and....
BASH

Originally posted by Harvester of Sorrow
...My rig is almost ready to bleed the brakes...tune up and....
BASH
gggrrrrrrrrr I still have to go thru the 345, install it and the tranny/case, install front axle and set angles, weld up the yokes and perches, install shafts front and rear and mount wheels, see what needs trimming and trim, install front and rear driveshafts, get tie rods built, clean/seal/install the gas tank, exhaust...... oh the hell with it. I could go on and on but it does seem like the light is at the end of the tunnel. It's been a year now but I'm pleased with what I've gotten done so far.

how much we grind (http://www.dandcextreme.com/buildup/pro1/day3.html)

And for the lazy, heres a picture...http://www.dandcextreme.com/buildup/image/day3pumpkina.jpg

Originally posted by TORC

gggrrrrrrrrr I still have to go thru the 345, install it and the tranny/case, install front axle and set angles, weld up the yokes and perches, install shafts front and rear and mount wheels, see what needs trimming and trim, install front and rear driveshafts, get tie rods built, clean/seal/install the gas tank, exhaust...... oh the hell with it. I could go on and on but it does seem like the light is at the end of the tunnel. It's been a year now but I'm pleased with what I've gotten done so far.

WHOOAAAAA....Breathe....It will be ok!

Originally posted by Harvester of Sorrow
SO WHERE IS EVERYONE GOING ON THE 19th...?

Did I yell loud enough?

My rig is almost ready to bleed the brakes...tune up and....
BASH

Pick a name and quit using so many different names on the different boards. My head hurts trying to keep track of who is who!!!!! ;)

Walker Valley on the 19th.

I will have boxes stacked to the roof in my new house, moving in on the 17th, but I am going, so no one better try any I'm too busy excuses.... Show up, be ready to get muddy, and be ready to get dented, cuz it is going to be fun!!!

BTW, NWBinders has a club run to Evans Creek the following week.

Originally posted by Hooper

BTW, NWBinders has a club run to Evans Creek the following week.

we do?!?!?



hmm, how come I never hear these things.........






















:D

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite


we do?!?!?
hmm, how come I never hear these things.........
:D

All that time and effort I spend keeping the club website up to date, wasted.

http://www.nwbinders.net

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite


we do?!?!?



hmm, how come I never hear these things.........


:D

Maybe you should go to the meetings...

Of course if the "webmaster" would send out reminders then no one would forget....

RUSTO...

wanna help me bleed my brakes? got a lota pumping to do:eek:

Originally posted by Harvester of Sorrow


Maybe you should go to the meetings...

Of course if the "webmaster" would send out reminders then no one would forget....

RUSTO...

wanna help me bleed my brakes? got a lota pumping to do:eek:


Hmmm, I've been posting on all the boards, but I guess a note on the mailing list wouldn't hurt either... ;)