Not much yet, but its a start!:D Post your pics.

What a way to spend a Saturday :D I had a great time!! just wish I hadn't forgotten the camera :shaking:

P.S. got any pics of Marty's carnage?? WOW!!!! that was crazy!!! :eek:

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Good times!!! :grinpimp:


Probably nowhere close to the good times this guy was having though!!:laughing::lmao::lmao:



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thanks for the phone call on the saturday run!

The annual Snowbash run on Blacktail will be held on Jan. 30th & 31st with a dinner on the night of the 30th. Everybody is invited. For more info you can PM me.:grinpimp:

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Looks like a fun trip guys. Where in Montana is this trail located in relation to the Missoula area and are there good rockcrawling trails in montana for the summer?

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This trail system is located near Blacktail Mountain Ski Resort just out of Lakeside Mt. Its about 100 miles North of Missoula.

Thanks, I'm going to be spending some time up there next summer and would like to find some good wheelin as well as some good fishing.

Jon

Looks like a fun trip guys. Where in Montana is this trail located in relation to the Missoula area and are there good rockcrawling trails in montana for the summer?

Jon

Probably not anything that would turn Your crank Jon, You've been around.:laughing: On a side note, there are lots of your customers here......AP NW????

Probably not anything that would turn Your crank Jon, You've been around.:laughing: On a side note, there are lots of your customers here......AP NW????

It doesn't take much to turn my crank anymore I think I'm getting low on compression. I was up there a couple of weeks ago and got excited about driving in a snowstorm, that doesn't happen down here much.
Glad to hear about the AP customers in Montana, It would be cool to do an event or something up there next summer.

AP NW sounds real good to me.

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Lakeside is on hwy 93 N on the westside of Flathead lake. It's actually a killer trail, just not JV. As far as fishing goes, there's some excellent fishin' up here. Macks, whitefish, sturgeon, and pike...just to name a few. I'd love to wheel with Ya'll, c'mon! Just pm any fool on here with MT in the username and You'll find us!:laughing:

Thanks for the invite, looking forward to next summer.

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You still pimpin the truggy Jon???

Thanks, I'm going to be spending some time up there next summer and would like to find some good wheelin as well as some good fishing.

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Hey Jon this is Mark Bergers old spotter Garrett N. If your up this way next summer mark and i have some trails up here in North Idaho. We are about 100 miles east of missoula. Send me a message when and we can all get out if ya want to head over.

Probably not anything that would turn Your crank Jon, You've been around.:laughing: On a side note, there are lots of your customers here......AP NW????

After last years trail improvements, I've seen some cranks that got turned:D

You still pimpin the truggy Jon???

No, after driving it for several years I finally sold it to a friend of mine and built a FJ40. It doesn't crawl quite as good as Truggy but it's a lot better all around (more power). It's got 39 Krawlers with 60's and an Atlas.

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Hey Jon this is Mark Bergers old spotter Garrett N. If your up this way next summer mark and i have some trails up here in North Idaho. We are about 100 miles east of missoula. Send me a message when and we can all get out if ya want to head over.

What's up Garrett? I hope to be spending a few weeks up there next summer so we'll have to hook up and run some trails.

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Hey not much! Hope warm California is going great haha. You going to be at KOH this year? Just let us know when your coming up this way. I bet we would even head over and run blacktail with ya. We hope to get over there this winter sometime and play in the snow.

Probably not anything that would turn Your crank Jon, You've been around.:laughing: On a side note, there are lots of your customers here......AP NW????

I have personally heard comments from wheelers that have "been around" and all have good things to say about this trail system. Criticism seems a bit sourcastic from somebody who hasn't really wheeled it in the last 2-3 years.

Everybody has their own opinion on what trails they like/disslike. We can use Pritchett Canyon for example, scares the hell out of you but, I loved it. My point being is that everbody has their own "G" spot if you will. The Blacktail Wild Bill Trail System may not be everybody's "G" spot but for anybody that is into wheeling at all will have some sort of appriciation for the thought and hard work by all that contributed to this trail system. On that note you are welcome to come up and help this summer on trail work, maybe help design something that will "turn cranks" ? ? :)

I know I usually have a good time!:beer::beer:

I know I usually have a good time!:beer::beer:

That's cause all the blood rushes to your head from the inverted position. :laughing:

That's cause all the blood rushes to your head from the inverted position. :laughing:

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Awesome pics.......I'd love to get out there someday!

Can stock rigs run on this trail? I would love to run the trail with people, long as I could drive my stock dodge ram on the trails with out beating the piss out of it(daily driver lol). Btw if any wheelers are on here that helped our fire dept and the helicopter crew out awhile back hauling an atv rider out of the trail. Thanks! Huge help!


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you guys have any gps trail data on blacktail?

Can stock rigs run on this trail? I would love to run the trail with people, long as I could drive my stock dodge ram on the trails with out beating the piss out of it(daily driver lol). Btw if any wheelers are on here that helped our fire dept and the helicopter crew out awhile back hauling an atv rider out of the trail. Thanks! Huge help!


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There are by-passes around most of the obstacles. Some would be fairly tight for a full size stocker. They are made mostly for 4-wheelers. I would wait for spring and try it on dry ground first.

you guys have any gps trail data on blacktail?

Yes, We gpsed the entire trail system last year for the forest service. Now we are working on gps cords. for each major obsticle. Hopefully we will get a map out by spring/summer.

Yesterday. Only pics and not very exciting. Guess I forgot I had a camera.:shaking:

You guys allow people to bring 4wheelers on your trail ride then? I don't wanna screw my truck up, but would love to run the trail on our 4wheeler. 2008 Honda Foreman 500.

Thanks for the invite, looking forward to next summer.

Keep us posted for the dates--if you want to fish some rivers, I'm always up for a summer raft trip.

No, after driving it for several years I finally sold it to a friend of mine and built a FJ40. It doesn't crawl quite as good as Truggy but it's a lot better all around (more power). It's got 39 Krawlers with 60's and an Atlas.

You could do every obstacle on this trail and have a lot of fun. You could do 98% of the obstacles on this trail if you didn't worry about body damage--or don't like to do multi-point turns!!

Can stock rigs run on this trail? I would love to run the trail with people, long as I could drive my stock dodge ram on the trails with out beating the piss out of it(daily driver lol).

Like rocky mnt. crawler said, you can do it--there are bypasses on most obstacles, but you should be OK with a little tree branch pinstriping, or some possible minor rocker damage.

You guys allow people to bring 4wheelers on your trail ride then? I don't wanna screw my truck up, but would love to run the trail on our 4wheeler. 2008 Honda Foreman 500.

Some of the pics are club runs, some are "hey, let's go" runs. It's a public trail on Forest Service land--no problems running an ATV there. The FS's direction on making the obstacles was "Make sure there's a route in/through/around each obstacle so a stock ATV with a novice rider can get through safely." As you can imagine, though, there are some spots where a kid on a >50" wide ATV can ride through at idle that could do damage to your Dodge! :laughing:

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Very, very importantly, the FS is requesting comments on this trail due by January 15. I would love to see some comments from some of you out of state wheelers saying, "I'd love to see this trail, and will come to Montana specifically to run it. I would also like to see it expanded!!"

The FS has been amazing in working with local 4x4 groups on this trail, and they're willing to work with us more in an expansion. :grinpimp: Any and all support is appreciated!!

Keep us posted for the dates--if you want to fish some rivers, I'm always up for a summer raft trip.

Sounds like a lot of fun!



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Very, very importantly, the FS is requesting comments on this trail due by January 15. I would love to see some comments from some of you out of state wheelers saying, "I'd love to see this trail, and will come to Montana specifically to run it. I would also like to see it expanded!!"

The FS has been amazing in working with local 4x4 groups on this trail, and they're willing to work with us more in an expansion. :grinpimp: Any and all support is appreciated!!

How do you send in comments to the FS?

How can i get signed up to go on your Jan 30th run? I would love to go if you guys allowed that. I would have to ride the 4wheeler so I can save the ram from damage haha.

Josh

How can i get signed up to go on your Jan 30th run? I would love to go if you guys allowed that. I would have to ride the 4wheeler so I can save the ram from damage haha.

Josh

PM me. I will hook you up.

How do you send in comments to the FS?

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Thank you for your interest!!
I don't want to take up more of a good snow wheelin' pic thread with information, so I'll start a new thread in this forum:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847921

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You got stuck behind the orange Bronco! :laughing:

damn jeeps...no i did good til later that day, ripped up the trail at like 25mph open front and rear...i was pretty suprised:smokin:

The Wedge trail near Pinehurst, ID. 32 rigs total, one jeep did an oops

Damn! What happened to the Rubicon?

Kinda slick

Damn! What happened to the Rubicon?

Got a little close to the edge and rolled on its side into the creek. They already had it rolled back over before I got a pic.

what trial was the hangover run on?

Rocky mnt. crawler and Tophvytoy were in the Idaho Panhandle--near Pinehurst, ID. See the pics/video in the Snow Wheelin' thread in the Toy forum.

So how is the trail in the summer? Looks like some fun and I wont be making it this winter.

So how is the trail in the summer? Looks like some fun and I wont be making it this winter.

definitely a good time!:grinpimp:

do you guys have any runs planned soon? I have a couple of buddies that want to come up. 2 buggies and a 60'd cj-7

do you guys have any runs planned soon? I have a couple of buddies that want to come up. 2 buggies and a 60'd cj-7

Yes Big Sky 4 Wheelers is having thier SnowBash on Jan 30 @ Blacktail....

PM #1toyota for details :D

looks like alot of fun

Shake down run for me. Hell of a nice day.

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Shake down run for me. Hell of a nice day.

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And it really is a road, just doesn't see any traffic to keep the trees down.

:eek::eek:How was the shakedown ? :grinpimp: anyone else go ,or just you and Joe ?? seemed almost like spring yesterday !!!:smokin:

:eek::eek:How was the shakedown ? :grinpimp: anyone else go ,or just you and Joe ?? seemed almost like spring yesterday !!!:smokin:

Drove there and it drove back. 2rz and short 40's do have a little on a 22r and 36's. Nothing broke, but a weird gremlin. Wind it up and as soon as I dumped the clutch, the motor dies then comes back when it winds down to 1500 rpm. Would do it consistant for about 3 minutes, then it was fine? Was just the two of us. Scouting mission.:confused: Will bring a chainsaw next time.

Is this at the big corner in the road above Emmons Creek? About the last place we went when I rode with you...I think Marty, Guffie and Steve Botkin were with us that day?

That area gets so many damn Tamaracks that turn from a 1" diameter, 3' tall sapling one year to a 10' tree in about 2 years!! It's a continuous job to keep everything brushed out.

Is this at the big corner in the road above Emmons Creek? About the last place we went when I rode with you...I think Marty, Guffie and Steve Botkin were with us that day?

That area gets so many damn Tamaracks that turn from a 1" diameter, 3' tall sapling one year to a 10' tree in about 2 years!! It's a continuous job to keep everything brushed out.

Could be, it's mostly a blur anymore. It's a spur road off the loop that hits the highway before Lakeside. Wild thought, hopeing it would connect to the Blacktail road. Wondering if F.S. would be open to trail add ons below Blacktail? Could make more loop options. Not much for obstacles, but a nice scenic drive.

They may have been open to suggestion..but comment period closed on the Island Unit on Friday.

...maybe send one in now anyway!! Can't hurt.

I want in..looks like a blast!!!:smokin:

Hey Guys,
I'm can't make it to the BlackTail run on the 30th really wanted to go but the rig is still under the knife (More Goodies Going In). Keep me posted of other runs you guys are planning and I'll be there..:smokin:

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Where are all of the pictures from snow bash 2010?

Where are all of the pictures from snow bash 2010?

Yeah ...come awn already!!!! :flipoff2:

Yeah ...come awn already!!!! :flipoff2:

My phone took one, by itself in my pocket at 11:31 when I was putting my driveline back together. For a preview, just close your eyes:flipoff2:. Damn touch screen dumb phones anyway.

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Hope you heal up quick Carson.
YouTube - Carson's Toe Pick.mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8WWPdD7Bq8&feature=player_embedded)

Everything is going better. I got a 1 month vacation paid....Should give me enough time to heal. Just a little sore is all. Thanks for everyone that left a message and came to visit. I appreciate it.

hey this is Garrett that was in the buggy. What did ya hurt. Sorry we missed it. We headed out of town early.

Broke his back in 2 places, Concusion, seperated rotator cuff. Thats all !

Wow all from that roll? Im guessing maybe no seatbelts on.

Um . . . no. No seatbelts and seat not properly bolted down. Talked to him this morning and the buggy is getting all safety equip. installed as we speak.

when is yalls next run? ill try to make it up there for it..

got a motor swap to do here soon but should only take me a weekend to do.

We seem to have a run almost every weekend. If your coming up give a hollar we would luv to go break stuff with ya

when is yalls next run? ill try to make it up there for it..

got a motor swap to do here soon but should only take me a weekend to do.

PM Me when you want to come up i will go fore sure

im trying to talk the guys in to going up there one of these weekends coming up. we went up snow wheeling at sulphur bar over here yesterday and we had a blast. ill give yall a shout when we or i come up

On 11-15, #1toyota and I took our rigs up to the top of the shale rocks. We ran into a little snow at the top. Had a stellar time!!!

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man i miss that stuff! lookin good:beer:

I saw a bunch of yota guys in hamilton on saturday.. Any of you guys?

I saw a bunch of yota guys in hamilton on saturday.. Any of you guys?

Don't think so. A lot of us were in Idaho.

Alot of mice looking rigs, Looks like it was a blast.. Im sry about the roll over. hope the drivers alright

Do I see a pirate salute! :flipoff2:

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"It's has air lockers, they're just not hooked up":p

Wow Mark, that didn't take long. Thanks for the hook. I owe you again!

Wow Mark, that didn't take long. Thanks for the hook. I owe you again!

Karma, I had my turn after all.:laughing:

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I gotta get back on this trail. We did a quick hit and run on this trail on the way back to Calgary from Moab last year and it was every bit as good as the trails down in Utah.

The only photo I can find :(

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We had no idea where we were going and barely managed to get off the trail before it was pitch black but it was an awesome time.

I gotta get back on this trail. We did a quick hit and run on this trail on the way back to Calgary from Moab last year and it was every bit as good as the trails down in Utah.


Seriously?!! That is very cool! :smokin:

Hopefully the FS follows through and lets us open up more of the logging roads in the area. They won't all be challenging trails--but they will offer some gorgeous scenic driving. One on the south side has a great view over Lake Mary Ronan, and a pair of connectors on the east side will give some great scenics of the Flathead Lake/Lakeside vista and better access from the north/east.

Yeah, I'll have to get a FS map before we go back down. It seems like there is quite a network of trails and I'd rather not take a wrong turn onto a trail I'm not supposed to be on. It sounds like there might be a group going in mid may. :D

Shoot me your email. I'll send you a map of the FS' draft trail system.

The actual OHV trail you were on is just an upside-down T (when viewed with the map North). The proposed changes will ring trails around it. There is also a "U" that wraps around the T of regular FS roads you can drive logging trucks/towrigs/motor homes/granny cars on.

YouTube - Ftoy snow.MP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOs-btYJjZQ)

Thanks for motivating us Mark! Snow camping was fun.

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