This build has been talked about for years, but has recently started picking up in the last few months. We finally have something going. Started out as a '78 Cherokee, that was so rotted out everything but the motor should have gone to the scrapyard. Anyways, we ended up with this (got a bit sawzaw happy one night).

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00789.jpg

Frame was junk, it's in the scrapyard. However, we happened to have a YJ frame laying around, so what the hell, why not. First we bolted the 63" chevy springs in the rear and bastard XJ leaves up front. Somehow, we came out with the perfect wheelbase to match the stock FSJ, right around 110".Cleaned all the brackets off of it. (yeah, there is an axle under it there, don't ask)

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00803.jpg

So as you can see above, at this point in time it had a matched 4.56 Chevy 60/14b, we planned on using a 258 at that point in time. But then, a stroke of luck and I scored these with a whole running F350 for $500:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00787.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00788.jpg

I only wanted the trans for my truck, so the project slightly changed direction for the better, with a HP60 and EFI 460, now this got us moving some more. The Ford was 4,10 gears, so we pulled the other 14b with 4.10's we had laying around out. :grinpimp:

You can't really tell from the pictures, but the 60 looked like it was under the ocean for a year, one of the swaybar brackets literally fell off. after a bit of cleaning and a lot of wire wheeling it didn't clean up all too bad. Yukon 35splines, Spicer non-greasables, welded carrier

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00817.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00830.jpg

Beings as the spring mount width on these era Ford 60's is wide as hell, we got to work on the outboarding, about 3" per side 1/4" plate

Best tool ever.
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00808.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00807.jpg
6 1" holes with a holesaw per side, it was a fun day.
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00818.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00819.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00823.jpg

Once that was almost finished, we needed to address the rear. So, we got some 2x4 3/16" box tube and extended it out about 17" to meet up with the 63's.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00832.jpg
Fronts are done in this pic
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00842.jpg

Plated with 10ga. The stock frame is 2.5" wide, so we had to form it to the frame as we welded, so the welds are not continuous. Oh yeah, there's the 14b w/ GLO disc brake brackets, they're quite nice.
Outsides
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00851.jpg
Insides
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00850.jpg

This is where it sits as of today
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00846.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00853.jpg

As you can see, we are not in any fancy shop. It's getting to be a jungle gym just to move around. Once the body isn't taking up a whole bay it will be nice.
We also have to deal with this
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00826.jpg

Yep, that's a swan, and it's really, really fawking annoying, it shits everywhere. (does anyone else have this problem?)

As of now we just need rotors and studs for the 14 bolt and it will roll. The front will have shackles mounted to the bumper, and in the rear we're probably going to go with Timmay's slider boxes. Hoping to have this done by the end of spring. Right now we're looking for ideas on how to mount the 460 in the frame, we measured and it will fit, but we need ideas for the mounts. Flame away :flipoff2:

its coming along- Jess

nice to see someone else building a FSJ. i am also building a FSJ. i dont have a dirt floor one tons or a BBford. close though. mine has a fiBBC and rockwells in a one car garage:flipoff2:

For the engine mounts just fab something up with some poly bushings. Plating the frame is probably a good idea where the mounts are.

Thats pretty much what I was thinking for the motor mounts.
X2 on those damn swans.:mad3:

subscribed. I like all the Ford stuff.

For mounts, pull some late 70's or early 80's Bronco or F series frame mounts that had a 351 M or 400m. Then you can use a 460 conversion motor mount. 80's mounts are riveted in and pain to get out, the late 70's just unbolt. Another option would be frame mounts from a F250 that had a 460 but they will be riveted in too.

Bolt to your engine, lap with some .250 plate and gusset to frame and your done. That is how we put a 454 in a J20....very easy, and we can get stock motor mounts anywhere.

Nice work guys. Ya know... Ashley's uncle is a mason. I could ask him to see if he could concrete that floor for ya, on the cheap of course. Maybe he'll even concrete that swan over, make a good lawn ornament.:D

subscribed. I like all the Ford stuff.

For mounts, pull some late 70's or early 80's Bronco or F series frame mounts that had a 351 M or 400m. Then you can use a 460 conversion motor mount. 80's mounts are riveted in and pain to get out, the late 70's just unbolt. Another option would be frame mounts from a F250 that had a 460 but they will be riveted in too.

Bolt to your engine, lap with some .250 plate and gusset to frame and your done. That is how we put a 454 in a J20....very easy, and we can get stock motor mounts anywhere.

I actually kept the mounts from the truck it came out of, but the thing is they are different from the older 460's. Seems that the 87-91 used mounts with 2 studs, rather than the single stud in the older trucks. I like these mounts: http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=3&BP=0&scID=114&ItemID=1017 but I am not sure if the block mounting pattern was changed too. Also, I'm not convinced that the stockers will fit in the YJ frame, I don't think they will. We may just go the poly bushing route. Any suggestions on what thickness material to plate the frame with? We were thinking 10ga, cause we have it, that's one of the next steps.

X2 on those damn swans.
Maybe if the damn thing wasn't in love with you it wouldn't come down all the time.

I actually kept the mounts from the truck it came out of, but the thing is they are different from the older 460's. Seems that the 87-91 used mounts with 2 studs, rather than the single stud in the older trucks. I like these mounts: http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=3&BP=0&scID=114&ItemID=1017 but I am not sure if the block mounting pattern was changed too. Also, I'm not convinced that the stockers will fit in the YJ frame, I don't think they will. We may just go the poly bushing route. Any suggestions on what thickness material to plate the frame with? We were thinking 10ga, cause we have it, that's one of the next steps.


Maybe if the damn thing wasn't in love with you it wouldn't come down all the time.

I have an idea for you. I will draw it up for you and post it tomorrow. It will be overkill but it does need to hold a big block so it will work. But i guess it depends on how much of a baller you want to be. :smokin:


That retard swan has a hard-on for my motorcycle too. I have no idea what its problem is.

If my asshole brother would give back the engine hoist we could get the motor off the ground and see what needs to be done.... then put it back down because you can't roll and engine hoist on stones... Fuck. I'll have to get him to bring it to me. We have the bushings for the front shackles, just need some 2" .25 wall dom and we've got shackle mounts. Oh yeah, front bumper needs to get done so we can mount the shackle hangers, then we're ready for the motor. Oh yeah, and Andy, we need 16 of them special studs.

If my asshole brother would give back the engine hoist we could get the motor off the ground and see what needs to be done.... then put it back down because you can't roll and engine hoist on stones... Fuck. I'll have to get him to bring it to me. We have the bushings for the front shackles, just need some 2" .25 wall dom and we've got shackle mounts. Oh yeah, front bumper needs to get done so we can mount the shackle hangers, then we're ready for the motor. Oh yeah, and Andy, we need 16 of them special studs.

Hey I'm selling that 4L that's sitting at my house... on your engine stand.... and of course than you can have it back. First $100 gets the engine and everything else that came with it. Besides, you're wasting a perfectly good beerclaw.

[QUOTE=Xjcrawler736;10428993]But i guess it depends on how much of a baller you want to be. :smokin:

Definitely a pretty big one.:grinpimp: If I get time tommorrow I will make the plates for the engine block after I go pick the new toy. Also just to let the 99.9% of people looking at this know that this project is kinda of 50/50 between me and NO_BS. Also it is being built in my cluster of a shop.

How about something like this?

Maybe ad a gusset on the sides and make the strap that goes over the frame bigger. But you get the idea. I know you two love hole saws.

How about something like this?

Maybe ad a gusset on the sides and make the strap that goes over the frame bigger. But you get the idea. I know you two love hole saws.

Looks sweet, minus all the holes, dick. We'll have to take some measurements to see the width and such, but overall looks like a good idea. Mike's gonna try to get some motor side mounts made up tomorrow, then hopefully I'll have the hoist for Friday night and we can get some real measurements when the motor isn't buried in a 36" tire.

Just ordered a bunch of poly bushings, traction bar brackets for the rear, and the steering cylinder and heims. Hopefully they will get the ball rolling a bit faster... :D

And you bitch about me spending thousands on my rig. :flipoff2:

I ordered your wheel studs for you and I should have them by thursday afternoon.

Hey I'm selling that 4L that's sitting at my house... on your engine stand.... and of course than you can have it back. First $100 gets the engine and everything else that came with it. Besides, you're wasting a perfectly good beerclaw.

Doesn't really matter, the 460 would pretzel that pile of shit in .001 seconds, it's not exactly light.

Doesn't really matter, the 460 would pretzel that pile of shit in .001 seconds, it's not exactly light.

Good call... Hey what trans/tcase are you guys going to use?

Good call... Hey what trans/tcase are you guys going to use?

Were going to use a T18 and NP205 to start. Then hopefully at somepoint we will add a NP203 rangebox in front of the 205. Right now the funding is not there for the adapters and we need to find a ford 203.

Were going to use a T18 and NP205 to start. Then hopefully at somepoint we will add a NP203 rangebox in front of the 205. Right now the funding is not there for the adapters and we need to find a ford 203.

I was in Harry's last weekend and there was a 97 f250 with a balljoint 60. It had a v8 that was gettin picked clean but the drivetrain was all there, even driveshafts. The 60 was missing the short side knuckle, both shafts, and the brakes... but like i said, balljoints. It might be picked clean by now but hey you never know.

Gawd damnmit. I guess this means I have to get my ass moving and build the willys.:smokin:

Gawd damnmit. I guess this means I have to get my ass moving and build the willys.:smokin:

Yes you do.



Are you done yet?

How well does the millawauke metal saw work? The cuts loook nice and clean, you said you were cutting 3/16? How well does it do with 1/4? Do the blades last long? Might have to invest in one...

The saw works great for any type of plate or box tubing so far. I have cut up to 1/2 inch with it which gets kind of hot but it really is outstanding on 1/4 and 3/16. From what I have seen so far the blades last long time when they are not abused. It has been worth every penny to this point and I am very happy with it.

I have to be done for Nov. 7

As for updates, parts are stockpiling, kinda slow right now since this guy wants to be done in the next 2 weeks, spent last Satuday doing his beadlocks. We'll see what gets done tonight, if anything

Well, we got something done tonight:

it now can roll, finally:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00854.jpg

Well, not really I only wish those tires were mine here's what it really looks like:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00856.jpg

Once that was done, we moved onto the front. Realized that the springs could be about 2" more forward, but came up with this idea instead of changing what is already done. (Not fully welded because helmets pick perfect times to need a solar recharge)

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00860.jpg
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http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00862.jpg

Other than those updates, we also got the 205 ready for twin sticks and the steering parts are all here, they are next up then the motor will go in.
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00859.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00858.jpg

Just let me know what the od of the rod is on the steering cyl and when you want to make stops for it.

nice build....did you cut the fron crossmamber witht he circular saw ....

more info on the saw please...i was eyeing one the other day..:smokin:

nice build....did you cut the fron crossmamber witht he circular saw ....

more info on the saw please...i was eyeing one the other day..:smokin:

They did it with a cut off wheel. Just because it is more maneuverable.

If you want any info on the saw go to this thread I started
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822082&highlight=

Yea the saw has been great so far and that thread has alot of info on the different options out there. Will probaley have more updates this weekend because I now have a free night because of the trouble that I am in. You know what I mean Andy.:laughing: Oh awkwardness

Will probaley have more updates this weekend because I now have a free night because of the trouble that I am in. You know what I mean Andy.:laughing: Oh awkwardness

WTF?? I would have to assume a :beer: or 17 was involved.

Meh, more like 20 to 30:beer:. Oh yeah, it's a 1.5" rod in a 2.5" ram.












Strangling was involved.

Just for an update, the front suspension is DONE, the crossmember is welded on, angled, and capped, very nicely. Shackels are cut out and so are hangers with the bushings mounted to the front crossmember. Shit's kinda done. We just need bolts. Other than that we dragged it out with the Cummins and turned it around so next on the list is getting the 460 in the frame. (camera took a shit so you just have to wait for pics.)

Edit: anyone who wants to know about the saw.... I used it for the first time on sunday. It cuts the 1/4" plate like it's 1/4" plywood. It's very accurate, clean, and easy to use. If you don't have a Plasma, you need one, period.

:beer:



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Wait... don't you have a plasma?? Oh well, whatever works the best for ya.

Well not much has actually gottten done in the past few weeks, we were trying to get somebody else done. Anyway, here are the pictures from the previous update. Still need bolts....

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Mocked up the steering a bit:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00879.jpg

It looks like we're going to run a tube from the passenger side axle tube inboard of the spring over to the drivers tube/inner C because the tube over there is literally only about 1.5" from the ubolt to C. It's really the only option we have other than going hi-steer, but that's not gonna happen. There may be more progress this weekend, if we can get an oil pan on Mike's CJ and brakes in my truck.

It looks like we're going to run a tube from the passenger side axle tube inboard of the spring over to the drivers tube/inner C because the tube over there is literally only about 1.5" from the ubolt to C. It's really the only option we have other than going hi-steer, but that's not gonna happen. There may be more progress this weekend, if we can get an oil pan on Mike's CJ and brakes in my truck.

A tube huh? Make sure to leave enough room to get the diff cover off and for the r&p. Just in case you guys need to get in there and fix something.

Mikes oil pan.... hahaha! That blows.

A tube huh? Make sure to leave enough room to get the diff cover off and for the r&p. Just in case you guys need to get in there and fix something.

It's going to be rough, any way we do it, the ram will have to be unbolted. Any ideas or suggestions on this will be useful. We are using the stock steering location and for the correct geometry, the arm of the ram is literally only a bit more than 1/4" from the cover, we just need to figure out a mounting system, it's in the works. Anyway, got some done this week:

Timmay's sliders came in and are all welded up:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00890.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00892-1.jpg

Got the body on the frame for the first fitting (no pics before the cutting):

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00896-1.jpg

Turned out to be a sawzall and grinder session until it ended up looking like this:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00899-1.jpg

Then we did a quick dove for an idea of the final look:

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http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/DSC00902-1.jpg

And at this point I realize that nobody ended up taking pictures of it from the side, so that'll have to wait. The body is not mounted, just sitting there. We figured most of the rear was done, but it's not too hard to move so it may be off again. Next in line is the steering, then the motor.

This would fix your bird problem...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Esz2h6sKmUU/SU2CXt5kKxI/AAAAAAAAA7M/67jXSJlo8vI/s400/stuffedRoastGoose.jpg

Thanksgiving is coming up :flipoff2:

Oh how I would love to slice that things head off one of these days and serve it for dinner.:laughing:

i dont have a swan but we have geese ducks ginneys and chickens and they think my trail rigs parked in the barn are for them to sleep on. my poor zukis are covered in shit, if im not paying attention to the goats they get on top when they are out. but so what, kinda funny to see a goat trying to drive a sami on 33s lol.

A small update from this week is road salt sucks. We started to take some parts off of the 460 and found that the cylinder heads had actually rotted out around the exhaust manifold bolt holes.:eek: Needless to say the heads are pretty much trash. Then we dug deeper into the engine to find blown head gaskets and tons of sludge. That said I am going to look at an early high compression 460 this weekend that will save some time and money on a rebuild of this engine.

It's been a while but we finally have some worth wile updates. Here's the pictures of our original motor (and our helper right before it tried to bite me):

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00920.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00914.jpg

Closeup of the head: (not the greatest picture, but you can see how thin it is around the bolt hole)
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00913.jpg

Not sure if the oil was ever changed in this thing:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00916.jpg

The cylinders also showed signs that not one, but both head gaskets were blown and the oil in the thing looks like cappuccino. So, we hit craigslist and came up with this, a '72 block with '68 heads, forged crank and rods, and a Holley 750 double pumper. The head and block combination raises the compression into the race fuel range, should be putting out at least 400hp when were done, probably more:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00928.jpg

Little test fit. It'll be a bit tight, but not too bad:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00930.jpg

Beings as now we have the motor, we decided we might as well get the transmission into the garage, however, it was in my truck, so I finally got to put the ZF5 in and have civilized shifts compared to the T18:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00935.jpg
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00932.jpg

Got pissed off and hacked the body a bit more, and decided to just run skins:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00908.jpg

Then, it is on to the steering, beings as it will be 1000 times easier without the motor in the way. At first we weren't very sure what we were going to do, but it came out way better than either of us expected, and only took three days of work. We were worried about how to get it done without blocking the carrier and cover from being able to come off, beings as the ram needed to be right there, but I think we came up with a good solution:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/DSC00944.jpg
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All the pictures of it done ended up having no flash, so they kinda suck. I'll get better ones tomorrow. Hopefully we can keep a pace here, next to happen will be motor mounts/crossmember. We have the flywheel, but the clutch from my truck does not fit, which sucks, so we need to get a long style clutch. Anyone need a 12" clutch for an 80-91 Ford with a T18 with under 3000 miles on it?

Man we fail at taking good pictures.:laughing: Maybe its time to cover my new camera in grease.

Turned out pretty good. Now get that motor in and destroy those XJ springs.

Better pictures of the steering, it will still probably get a tube on the passenger side of the ram to lock it all together a bit more.:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/Picture008.jpg
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Have you been able to cycle the suspension and turn lock to lock yet? Them ram rods (yea yea...:shaking:) look kinda close to your leafs. Maybe its just the picture. Wouldn't want them leaves to flatten out and rub off the shiny orange paint :D.

There should be enough clearance, the tightest spot is the diff cover. Pictures are a bit misleading.

Found a pic that shows the clearance pretty good:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-19-09/Picture014.jpg

Small update, got the frame side motor mounts done and tacked on, then started to clean up the motor a bit since it was warm enough to paint last weekend. I think they will be strong enough.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/12-27-09/DSC00963.jpg

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Also found out that the clutch and flywheel combo we ordered don't bolt up to eachother. So we may mock it all up and put that crap in later.

We've been moving along lately. The motor is in and the mounts are done:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j003.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j004.jpg

We also picked up a Hays pressure plate and flywheel for too cheap to pass up, just need a disc:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j014.jpg

Surprisingly, the headers we got for free with the motor work for 6 out of 8 cylinders, the other two will need a bit of work:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j034.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j035.jpg

And, we just had to do a quick test fit with the 39.5's we have laying around and the rest of the drivetrain, the 205 needs to be clocked so it's not such an anchor:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j033.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j032.jpg

Have you been able to cycle the suspension and turn lock to lock yet? Them ram rods (yea yea...:shaking:) look kinda close to your leafs. Maybe its just the picture. Wouldn't want them leaves to flatten out and rub off the shiny orange paint :D.

These pictures are just for you Nate, full bump with about 1/8" clearance to spare at full lock, take that:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j027.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j022.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-06-10/j026.jpg

These pictures are just for you Nate, full bump with about 1/8" clearance to spare at full lock, take that:

:smokin: Not too bad for a tard...

Even us tards get lucky sometimes.:D On another note I ordered a Weiand 8012 intake manifold today so hopefully we will get to test run the engine in the coming weeks.

Even us tards get lucky sometimes.:D On another note I ordered a Weiand 8012 intake manifold today so hopefully we will get to test run the engine in the coming weeks.

I can't wait to hear that thing run.

You better make some of the RCrocs races next year... I don't want to be the only BD Racing rig running these events.

It would be nice to aleast try to make one of the races but we will see what happens. As you know the credit cards have really taken a pounding this winter.:barf:

that pan on your front axle looks bubba gump :homer:

:blackflipoff2:

that pan on your front axle looks bubba gump :homer:

:blackflipoff2:


Big lip hanging out???

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Got a little something accomplished...

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-17-10/th_SDV_0005.jpg (http://s866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-17-10/?action=view&current=SDV_0005.flv)

The timing isn't quite right yet, but it runs, and shoots sweet blue flames! For a but of tech, at first we had no oil pressure. Unable to figure this out we pulled the distributor to see that the shaft that drives the oil pump was not lined up, and was just sitting off center of where it should be to slide into the bottom of the distributor. After a while of pondering, we used some heavy grease to hold the shaft into the bottom of the distributor while we installed it, and it worked after a few tries, oil pressure is now 70PSI cold :grinpimp: . And a few more pictures of the sweetness:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-17-10/j017.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-17-10/j014.jpg

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Also have our ram put back together with the stops in:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-17-10/j011.jpg

And before all this we did FINALLY get a working clutch and flywheel combo, so the trans is installed for good, here's a quick pic for reference:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-17-10/j009.jpg

Now we just need to plate the firewall a bit, close up some holes, and get the 205 clocked and installed then we can get the body on for good.

Digging this build gents, Nate was telling me about it a while back. :smokin:

Duraspark II with MSD coil?

Duraspark II with MSD coil?

We did a TFI ignition upgrade to our Duraspark II by using a cap adapter, TFI coil, cap and rotor from a late 80s fuel injected truck. From what Ive read it jumps the voltage from 20,000 to 30,000. So really it has all the normal advantadges of dropping in a HEI upgrade and you dont have the extra cost of buying a distributer for your Motorcraft system.

We did a TFI ignition upgrade to our Duraspark II by using a cap adapter, TFI coil, cap and rotor from a late 80s fuel injected truck. From what Ive read it jumps the voltage from 20,000 to 30,000. So really it has all the normal advantadges of dropping in a HEI upgrade and you dont have the extra cost of buying a distributer for your Motorcraft system.

I am very interested on the reliablilty of this setup. This weekend my DII with TFI coil had itermittent problems with the magnetic pickup in the dizzy. When hot, the resistance would open (infinite) and when it would cool it would settle to ~700 ohms and would start and run for a while. This is the second magnetic pickup in two years.

I am thinking of going back to the can style coil. Being stranded at 7000 feet and 4 feet of snow is not worth 10,000 volts.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Thanks for the heads up on the problems with the magnetic pickup. We will see what happens when we get it done.

Nice build. Im going to follow this one.

Did some firewall work on sunday and got all of the unwanted factory holes and thin areas covered with some 16 guage. This will pave the way to get the hydro clutch master mounted and the linkage made. Also I ordered a set of drive flanges from rock and roll offroad on monday so we should be able to get the 60 completed soon also.
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Build is lookin good guys. Have you thought about tires yet?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=856459

Build is lookin good guys. Have you thought about tires yet?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=856459

Ya, they are thinking about tires. Not those though. Most people like having a tread compound that is softer then concrete. :flipoff2:

Ya, they are thinking about tires. Not those though. Most people like having a tread compound that is softer then concrete. :flipoff2:


Wouldnt have to worry about cutting a tire:flipoff2:


40" concrete > 39" bald ass boggers:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Wouldnt have to worry about cutting a tire:flipoff2:


40" concrete > 39" bald ass boggers:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Ask Dan Smith about cutting those tires at Line Mt. He has done it a couple times. :flipoff2:

Of course he does roll Jeeps out of no where and blow shocks on in the first 20 feet of RCQ. :shaking:

We've been getting some of the small stuff out of the way lately. Hydro clutch parts are all mounted, as is the orbital, on the stock tilt column, damn are those things complicated...

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It was a major PITA, but it was worth it. Also got the gauge cluster done:

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And just one shot of it's first time out of the garage:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-27-10/IMG_05762.jpg

Probably gonna clock the Tcase and get it mounted this weekend, then we can get the body where it's gonna be and start moving along.

swan offroad... thats awesome

whered you guys get the orbital from? the steering column situation looks like it turned out good. Great job fellas.

You guys must be tall with those seats back that far.

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/01-27-10/IMG_0587.jpg


Why did you not mount the tach the same as the rest of the guages?

Why did you not mount the tach the same as the rest of the guages?

The tack is a pedastal mount so it can not really be mounted like the others and we liked it pointing on the angle.

You guys must be tall with those seats back that far.

Yea, it looks really retarded with the seats sitting in there like that.

whered you guys get the orbital from? the steering column situation looks like it turned out good. Great job fellas.

Got the orbital out of a large allis chalmers fork lift at easy pull a while back.

Why did you not mount the tach the same as the rest of the guages?

Yeah, the tach was never meant to go into this, it just kinda ended up there, ended up working out good I guess.

Got the orbital out of a large allis chalmers fork lift at easy pull a while back.

Did you have to modify it in anyway? internally? Or just the steering shaft and that nice little adapter flange...

Did you have to modify it in anyway? internally? Or just the steering shaft and that nice little adapter flange...

No, we had the steering column out of the forklift so we used the splines and the adapter flange from that.

205 is clocked and installed, been a bit distracted buying a new trailer for myself, pictures in a few days....

205 is clocked and installed, been a bit distracted buying a new trailer for myself, pictures in a few days....

New trailer?

Got a few things done recently, 205 drilled and tapped for clocking, and the mods to the extension housing, ended up using all 6 bolts again, as well as the locating pin. Drilled one hole in the adapter to reuse one of the original holes, as the notch in the 205 casting did not allow that bolt to be redrilled:

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We also decided to gusset the knuckles some...
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/02-14-10/j008.jpg

Which turned into adding literally 7lbs of steel to them: (Did end up having to grind the back gusseting down a bit for turning clearance, not too much of an issue though)
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Before & After:
http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/02-14-10/j016.jpg

Installed:
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New trailer?
Hell yeah, but it's buried in 20" of snow right now!

Come on I saw it last night. There is plenty of updates. Quit being a lazy ass and post up some pics.

Come on I saw it last night. There is plenty of updates. Quit being a lazy ass and post up some pics.

Someone was supposed to update this last night. Most likely NObs will post pics tonight of the finished headers, exhaust, trans mount and twin sticks.

Chill out. Here it is. We got the exhaust done, headers done and wrapped, and the twin sticks made up. Oh yeah, also got the trans mounted:

Modified header:

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Twin Sticks:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/03-07-10/l002.jpg

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Kept moving along this week. Our KRC pump came, and we modified the stock Ford mounts to get it on the motor. Also got the hydroboost mounted up, and the master on it. And, since we are cheap and nobody sells what we need anyway, we made up our own reservoir for the system, it holds about 1.25qts, and has the ports where we need them. All we need is to mount the cooler, make the brake lines up (after the cutting brakes come in this week), and all the hydro lines and the system will be done:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/03-14-10/l001.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/03-14-10/l002.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/03-14-10/l009.jpg
(still missing a bolt and sleeve for that hole)

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Baffle in the top of the reservoir, we did chip all the slag off prior to welding the caps on:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/03-14-10/l011.jpg

Hopefully next week the brakes will get done, and possibly the hydro lines, tubing is coming this week as well.

Updates :flipoff2:

Kinda took a break this weekend if that is allowed.:flipoff2: We are gathering some parts in the mean time like griffin rad, cutting brakes, Dom, driveshaft yokes and some other odds and ends.

Kinda took a break this weekend if that is allowed.:flipoff2: We are gathering some parts in the mean time like griffin rad, cutting brakes, Dom, driveshaft yokes and some other odds and ends.

Thats never allowed. Now come over to my place tomorrow and help me get ready for Rausch. :D

Now come over to my place tomorrow and help me get ready for Rausch. :D
:eek:

Kinda took a break this weekend if that is allowed.:flipoff2: We are gathering some parts in the mean time like griffin rad, cutting brakes, Dom, driveshaft yokes and some other odds and ends.

Updates??? I've got a craving for some bald bogger burnouts!

Not really many updates. There is another rig in the squirrel infested barn that needs to be done for RCQ weekend.

I guess you will have to find out what that would be at some point.:flipoff2:

Whats the point in doing all the gusseting on the knuckles?

Not really many updates. There is another rig in the squirrel infested barn that needs to be done for RCQ weekend.

I guess you will have to find out what that would be at some point.:flipoff2:

Let me guess... some POS CJ5 on tons???:flipoff2: Btw, I'll be back sometime before RCQ so if yall need a hand let me know...


As for the gusseted knuckles... I think its to make em look really fugly.:eek:

Whats the point in doing all the gusseting on the knuckles?

So they won't break so easily. Yes, we moved the CJ into the main bay. Working on it every night I can. The rear is done, just got rotors tonight so it will be 100% rolling this weekend, and just ripped the 60 apart tonight, it's getting welded tomorrow. Some teaser pics for you:

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/Cj5/DSCF0023.jpg

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab230/MCL_Offroad/Cj5/DSCF0032.jpg

Build thread on the CJ sometime??? Looks tits...

Some teaser pics for you:


Somehow you forgot to post the pics of the pink diff covers, axle shafts and disc brake brackets...


Build thread on the CJ sometime??? Looks tits...


From 50' away maybe...:flipoff2:

Updates?? or did yal scrap it?

Updates?? or did yal scrap it?

Both Mike and Shawn got sick of wheeling without "real" axles. Shawn already did his swap. Now Mike is working on his.

Scott also got himself a set of tons.

So the FSJ has been pushed to the side for a bit.

Nate, this looks like it may be dead. Shoes, Joe and I all have tons to swap under the CJ's. Shawn stole half the parts off it, and Mike will probably steal the other half. Have to talk Mike into throwin the bald boggers on the cj when its done for some 360 burnouts.

Scott

This kinda crapped out. Neither of us have the money or time to support it anymore, plus we whould have restarted with a new chassis under it anyway. The motor will eventually end up in my Cj5. Maybe someday we will build a racer, but for now we are going back to our crawilng roots. For the record, so far I have stole no parts from it other than a bleeder screw from the front calipers.