so yesterday picked up #58 and entered the f-toy world. i took it out wheeling to enjoy and find wink links and it did great. i am the new owner and am going to tair it down and do a rebirth. i just wanted to give you some pictures to check out.
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/IMG00435.jpg?t=1255310130
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/IMG00436.jpg?t=1255310287
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/IMG00437.jpg?t=1255310318

i am the new owner and am going to tair it down and do a rebirth.

Glad you said that. That paint job is way too :rainbow:, not even mentioning the rest of the stuff you'll address on it.

Glad you said that. That paint job is way too :rainbow:, not even mentioning the rest of the stuff you'll address on it.

the guy i traded for it was a nice guy i think he let his kids do the paint but its still something i wouldnt run with. i plan on doing frame mounts, actually sheet metal floor no expanded, do a small bench in the back, reweld a b pillar back in and a brace behind the front seats too, do FJ40 hood and grill side panels roof adjustable steering column and detach steering wheel. FIX THE WIRING MESS but other then that :laughing: i really like it tho i can tell why people build these. they are really fun to drive.

started on pulling everything again and was getting a little depressed with the color so i changed it tell i cut it off and take it down to the sand blaster. it looks much better. pulled all the wiring out and figured everything out that is needed to me.
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0395.jpg?t=1255398059

pulled the expanded that was tack welded at every spot off the back and went to town grinding and flap wheeling figured out the new color once i get the chassis off the frame and back from sand blasting. krylon smoke gray (over black paint)
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0399.jpg?t=1255553334
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0398.jpg?t=1255553361
the weather has been touch and go with rain so i can work on it here and there i taking it all the way down to the bair frame and doing it my way (not saying its the right way but thats what i want to do)

Hope those ungusseted square tubing cage supports coming out from the frame are something to be looked at....

Hope those ungusseted square tubing cage supports coming out from the frame are something to be looked at....

main reason i am taking the chassis off the frame to do everything nice and do it the right way.

Those rims are cool:smokin:

finally got most the sub frame out that gosh dang expanded is hell.
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0400.jpg?t=1255725080
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0401.jpg?t=1255725154

The smoke gray looks a little too much like primer gray (just shiny)...no offense meant: I have a primer gray 4Runner. I'd recommend some hammertone or maybe a metallic??

Those rims would look great powdercoated to match your chassis color. :smokin:

Did it have a t-case ebrake at one time?

Check out Hendrix' "Ultimate Formula Four" build thread--it was recently bumped to this top page. He really does nice work with his firewall sheet metal. If you're going to go with sheet metal floors/tunnel, look at that rig for inspiration. I used cardboard for mockups to get my floor/tunnel similar to his.

The steering wheel looks really high. (might suck if you're not really tall) If you can, try to tuck your steering shaft under your brake master cylinder, instead of over it, run your steering column through the center of the dash bar or under it. If master cylinder clearance is an issue, the 86-87 turbo trucks have a dual-diaphragm brake master that is smaller diameter than the standard dual-diaphragm v6 master...the 3rd gen 2wd trucks also have the smaller diameter double-diaphragm booster.

The stock clutch/brake pedal bracket on the firewall looks a little hokey--I used some tabs and the stock pedals shortened and (I think) cleaned that part up a bit.

I'm just pointing out some of the issues I had on my own build, and hoping to save you some of the head-scratching I did. If the suggestions offend you, just tell me to STFU and I will! :flipoff2:

The smoke gray looks a little too much like primer gray (just shiny)...no offense meant: I have a primer gray 4Runner. I'd recommend some hammertone or maybe a metallic??

Those rims would look great powdercoated to match your chassis color. :smokin:

Did it have a t-case ebrake at one time?

Check out Hendrix' "Ultimate Formula Four" build thread--it was recently bumped to this top page. He really does nice work with his firewall sheet metal. If you're going to go with sheet metal floors/tunnel, look at that rig for inspiration. I used cardboard for mockups to get my floor/tunnel similar to his.

The steering wheel looks really high. (might suck if you're not really tall) If you can, try to tuck your steering shaft under your brake master cylinder, instead of over it, run your steering column through the center of the dash bar or under it. If master cylinder clearance is an issue, the 86-87 turbo trucks have a dual-diaphragm brake master that is smaller diameter than the standard dual-diaphragm v6 master...the 3rd gen 2wd trucks also have the smaller diameter double-diaphragm booster.

The stock clutch/brake pedal bracket on the firewall looks a little hokey--I used some tabs and the stock pedals shortened and (I think) cleaned that part up a bit.

I'm just pointing out some of the issues I had on my own build, and hoping to save you some of the head-scratching I did. If the suggestions offend you, just tell me to STFU and I will! :flipoff2:



no its totally fine with me. i really been thinking about how i want everything running and looking nice. i am 5' 5'' (short) the steering wheel will be fixed for me. my buddy is 6' 5'' and i let him drive my stuff so going to try to do a adjustable steering column. i looked through the comp legel rules and if i am wrong and thats not ok then i make it only for me. i want to go to some west coast comps but at the same time i am 19 and wanting to take this build fairly slow since i have another wheeler i not really in a rush.
i been looking through a lot of build threads little jealous :flipoff2: i doing everything outside in the rain cold but still have a :D

i thought the rim comment was a joke but i guess some people do like them. i going to do a lot of trail rides with it so going to go with steal bead locks and some sticky tires. i am in to this f-toy less then i am in to my tubing bender (JD2) so even though it is ugly i could sell the longs out of the axle and get all my money back :flipoff2:

i am 5' 5'' (short) the steering wheel will be fixed for me. my buddy is 6' 5'' and i let him drive my stuff so going to try to do a adjustable steering column. i looked through the comp legel rules and if i am wrong and thats not ok then i make it only for me.

As far as I know, an adjustable steering wheel isn't even addressed in the rules--and wouldn't be a comp advantage, so go for it. Both BlueTorch and Poly have some nice units.

I think it was Mustard Dog who recommended "point it at your neck" for optimum steering wheel placement.

If your buddy will be driving your rig (especially in comps), check out my build thread and Brian Ellinger's #44 build thread to see what you have to do to keep your chassis low and fit a tall guy inside!! (notch the frame and tilt the seat back). When you drive, have a 2nd set of mounting points so your seat can sit more vertical and forward--which I still need to do so my wife can drive my buggy.

since i have another wheeler i not really in a rush.
i been looking through a lot of build threads little jealous :flipoff2: i doing everything outside in the rain cold but still have a :D

You will like having another wheeler so you don't get in a rush and half-ass stuff on your buggy. When you get bogged down on it, go wheelin' and remind yourself why you're building it.

Seriously consider getting a cheapo Costco carport tent for the project!!

i am in to this f-toy less then i am in to my tubing bender (JD2) so even though it is ugly i could sell the longs out of the axle and get all my money back :flipoff2:

:eek:

You got an absolutely screamin' deal! I'm jealous!! :p I'd have bought a second FToy for that!! :grinpimp:

:eek:

You got an absolutely screamin' deal! I'm jealous!! :p I'd have bought a second FToy for that!! :grinpimp:

traded a vehicle i had laying around that was not driven in years. tuned it up new parts yada yada traded it straight acrossed he wanted the car i wanted the f-toy.

this thing is alot ALOT of work to just pull it all back apart. i am making three times more work for myself but on the other hand saved more money then i could dream.

i must say driveline tech here in portland OR does so great drive lines.
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0402.jpg?t=1255741635
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0403.jpg?t=1255741658
i am stealing the drive lines out of the Ftoy to put in the yota tell the Ftoy gets put back together.

give me the drive lines, dual cases, and propane :flipoff2:

give me the drive lines, dual cases, and propane :flipoff2:

hahaha if your bored some time hit me up i always working on this pig alone, need some motivation to get away from the soon to be wife :flipoff2:

hahaha if your bored some time hit me up i always working on this pig alone, need some motivation to get away from the soon to be wife :flipoff2:

You should just quit and sell it to me! :flipoff2: :laughing:

It's nice to have friends help on your rig. Buy lots of :beer:, they will come.

You should just quit and sell it to me! :flipoff2: :laughing:


thats funny :flipoff2: i actually have tons and tons of family in Montana. brain switser the governor of MT is my great great uncle.

I'm very unimpressed with him as Governor. He really pushes the green agenda, and is the local media's darling...but has been bad for business, litigation, and insurance.

I hope he's a great guy at the Thanksgiving dinner table! :laughing:

Where in OR are you? I have very good friends in Junction City.

I'm very unimpressed with him as Governor. He really pushes the green agenda, and is the local media's darling...but has been bad for business, litigation, and insurance.

I hope he's a great guy at the Thanksgiving dinner table! :laughing:

Where in OR are you? I have very good friends in Junction City.

never meet him myself just family. i am in portland.

So...back to important stuff:

updates on the rig?
working on it this winter?
Replace the B-pillar bar yet?

Going to keep the aluminum rims? They'd work good with an aluminum inner beadlock and a steel ring outer beadlock. :smokin:

Going to add a twinstick?

Was there a t-case ebrake on there at one time? Going to try to rebuild that? Maybe Subaru calipers?

So...back to important stuff:

updates on the rig? YEAH A LITTLE
working on it this winter? PROBABLY NOT
Replace the B-pillar bar yet? NOT YET :shaking:

Going to keep the aluminum rims? They'd work good with an aluminum inner beadlock and a steel ring outer beadlock. :smokin:
NOT TOTALLY SURE YET
Going to add a twinstick?
YEAH
Was there a t-case ebrake on there at one time? Going to try to rebuild that? Maybe Subaru calipers? ALL IT CAME WITH WAS THE YELLOW PART TO IT SO I JUST NOT GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IT. SO NO NOT GOING TO USE ONE.?


pictures of the t-case, tranny, drive lines, and muffler system out. its being a really slow updates. he built it with basically NO way to take the tranny out. i had to cut away at the fire wall and got two nice size pieces of metal in my eye (safety glass were on too) so it kind of slowed down. plus have another toyota and need to finish my four link and a couple harleys i am putting together, lots of projects no money tons of time :laughing:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0416.jpg?t=1260660980
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/HPIM0418.jpg?t=1260661027
its getting really boring working on it by myself.

Davez Offroad Performance has a beefy twinstick that also costs less than others on the market.

pictures of the t-case, tranny, drive lines, and muffler system out. its being a really slow updates. he built it with basically NO way to take the tranny out.
:eek:
Check out Air Ride's Ultimate Formula Four build--Mike has a great firewall design that also makes room for tranny removal. I shamelessly copied it for my build. :guilty: :laughing:

plus have another toyota
Yeah, I did a 5-speed swap and duals in my 4Runner in Jan '08 instead of working on my FToy--I can relate! :laughing:

and need to finish my four link and a couple harleys i am putting together, lots of projects no money tons of time :laughing:

Let's see some pics of the Harleys! Choppers? Stock rebuilds?

its getting really boring working on it by myself.
I can relate. I had two friends who helped me a ton.

Let's see some pics of the Harleys! Choppers? Stock rebuilds?


there kinda my biggest babies cause there parts cost a arm and a leg. if you pm me your email i will send some pictures but i wont post for fear of any theifs that could be scanning pirate for whatever they want.

Wow, How Old is that chassis?? Did it sit with no paint on it for awhile thats a shit ton of rust

Wow, How Old is that chassis?? Did it sit with no paint on it for awhile thats a shit ton of rust

well the original owner built it back in 06 or 07 under a car tarp cover thing in oregon. so yeah there is rust :flipoff2:, my wife and i are moving in a couple months to a house with a big car port thing. it will be covered and i will enjoy working on it more. but right now i am out in the rain and other projects are in my grandmas small garage so i work on those.

Can't wait till I get enough coin to purchase a chassis :D

Can't wait till I get enough coin to purchase a chassis :D

go through my thread read everything you will be amazed on how much i picked it up for. :flipoff2:

go through my thread read everything you will be amazed on how much i picked it up for. :flipoff2:

I'm disgusted about how much you paid for it, but on the other hand Its possible that I can find a VERY Decent deal on one :D

here is some proof that i took it out wheeling when first purchased.
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/cid_833.jpg?t=1261360107

two more pictures. i was letting the motor cool down getting way to hot.
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/imagejpeg_01.jpg?t=1261364246
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy301/58wheelingyota/imagejpeg_02.jpg?t=1261364304

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

I think I should take that thing off your hands for what you paid for it.

You are obviously too busy, and it obviously needs attention.


:flipoff2:

I think I should take that thing off your hands for what you paid for it.

You are obviously too busy, and it obviously needs attention.


:flipoff2:

:flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:
i am busy but it actually starting to get nice out. how about i pay for a train ticket down here and you bust ass with me to get it back together :D
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0536.jpg?t=1267834640

this is my thread so i can ask this stupid question :flipoff2:

where can i get the pedal mounting bracket? i actually need info to call and order.

this is my thread so i can ask this stupid question :flipoff2:

where can i get the pedal mounting bracket? i actually need info to call and order.

any one?


well i have got working on the F-toy pulled the motor started cutting alot of the brackets and some of the dash expanded metal.
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0542.jpg?t=1267993445
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0541.jpg?t=1267993560

bam steering out, firewall thingy out, shock mounts cut, and bash expanded gone. now its cutting off the rest of the bad fab off (little time consuming stuff)
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0543.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0544.jpg
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0545.jpg

this is my thread so i can ask this stupid question :flipoff2:

where can i get the pedal mounting bracket? i actually need info to call and order.
Western Fab was supposed to be making one, not sure if it ever come out. I ended up just making my own with the stock bracket and some 1/8" plate.

i bought a new frame cut and ground down all the body mounts. (no pictures)

took the engine down cleaned and painted it. putting motor back together. going to bring the new frame home set motor, tranny, and tcases in to fab some mounts wont fully weld tell chassis is mounted.
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0562.jpg?t=1274400906
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0561.jpg?t=1274400940

P.S. i decided not to make the F-toy for comp. so i picked up air shocks built some links already going with a wishbone three link rear and full hydro with leafs up front.

well i brought the frame home set everything up with frame cut.
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0563.jpg?t=1276143408
made the flange to mount to the tcase
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0564.jpg?t=1276143407
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0565.jpg?t=1276143407
worked on frame plate/crossmember brakets. notched the tube ran across the frame.
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0566.jpg?t=1276143407
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/HPIM0567.jpg?t=1276143407

very slow progress little money going to college. what not usual life stuff. i have finished with my college training now working so progress to come :flipoff2:

bought new housing for the buggy cleaned them all up
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/IMG_20110327_184423.jpg?t=1301868902
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/IMG_20110327_184434.jpg?t=1301868902
both axles cleaned up and lower link brakes ready for the build.
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt333/wheelingyota/IMG_20110402_164059.jpg?t=1301868902

last night i mounted the chassis to the frame with the hendrix mounts. will get more progress soon. i almost forgot my password to photobucket its been forever.

I think I should take that thing off your hands for what you paid for it.

You are obviously too busy, and it obviously needs attention.


Offer's still open a year later. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


Glad to see you're back at it. Congratulations on finishing school and the job! :grinpimp:

Offer's still open a year later. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


Glad to see you're back at it. Congratulations on finishing school and the job! :grinpimp:

thanks man. no thank you i am keeping it try to enjoy :smokin: i did pick up a pretty sweet 85 4runner 22re with straight axle but i have put that on the back burner so i can atleast get the buggy rolling..

yeah my train ticket offer still stands to come down and help :flipoff2: