: 14 bolt, making it 5 lug


welndmn
09-23-2002, 09:52 AM
I know i asked this once before, i forgot
thinking i need to add disc to it, turn the hub down and redrill, correct?
anyone turn it down for me? Dean you still read this board?

Scout Dude
09-23-2002, 10:25 AM
The caliper bracket also must come off of the alxe tube at a 45º angle and then turn upwards...otherwise, the hub is in the way. (Roommate is working on converting his to 6 lug right now)

RustoleumWhite
09-23-2002, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Scout Dude
The caliper bracket also must come off of the alxe tube at a 45º angle and then turn upwards...otherwise, the hub is in the way. (Roommate is working on converting his to 6 lug right now)

hmm??? Why would that be? do the 1/2T rotors not have as much "hat" to them... requiring them to have to crook like that?!?!?



Hey Scout Dude, post a pic would you!

Curiousity for future use (hopefully sooner than I hoped!)

Scout Dude
09-24-2002, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by RustoleumWhite


hmm??? Why would that be? do the 1/2T rotors not have as much "hat" to them... requiring them to have to crook like that?!?!?



Hey Scout Dude, post a pic would you!

Curiousity for future use (hopefully sooner than I hoped!)

Opps, forgot all about this post..luckily I found it while seaching ...

It's not really the "Hat" area that causes the problem, it's the fact that you have to machine down the backside of the mounting flange because it has 8 steps or indentions that will be in the way if you try to go 5 or 6 lug. I don't have a pic yet because the axle is still up getting caliper brackets put on. But I drew a pic to help describe what I'm talking about. Here ya go:

RustoleumWhite
09-24-2002, 01:44 PM
OK, I think I get it now.

SO you have to turn off/down the 8 stud-bosses cast into the back of the hub first.

Then you can re-drill your new holes. But becasue you machined off this material, you have now effectivly move the rotor OUTBOARD, requiring you to move the calipers and bracket out as well...


yes/no?!?!



good tech. Maybe somthing that should go in the FAQ or Bible.....

Scout Dude
09-24-2002, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by RustoleumWhite


yes/no?!?!



Yes:D Hmmm, stud bosses, that's the word I was looking for....

welndmn
09-24-2002, 03:58 PM
What the OD on the hub of the 14 bolt? Just curious what kind of cutting i have to do to fit a 5 lug wheel on it

Scout Dude
09-24-2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by welndmn
What the OD on the hub of the 14 bolt? Just curious what kind of cutting i have to do to fit a 5 lug wheel on it

I dunno...Grady machined my buddy's hubs...both the outside and the inside of the hub need to be turned down..the the rotor needs to be opened up as well. If you just turned it down to fit the rotor, it would be too weak/or you would wear through.

Also, the axle shaft ends need to be machined down and you need to swap the allen style bolts which Grady machined down too (I didn't think they needed it..but whatever, the price was all the same).

SHERPA
09-24-2002, 04:35 PM
I machined the entire stud-boss area off of a HD60 hub on my
lathe. it took quite awhile, but came out super clean. the
14bolt hub is very similar to the hd60 hub.

14 bolt hub OD is approx: 4.25" (I think) it's been awhile since
I goofed with that stuff. you can locate rotors with more
backspacing to them to get the caliper away from the wheels.

a ford f-250 or f-350 dana 50ttb or dana 60 rotor will do this.

they're also not too* expensive to buy new.

I could machine down the OD of your hubs for you, and remove
the stud-bosses from the backside of the hub flange also.

the redrill for 5-lug is something I'm not yet* set up for....
(No rotary table in my shop....yet)

let me know via pm or email for a quote.

--Sherpa

Scout Dude
09-24-2002, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
I machined the entire stud-boss area off of a HD60 hub on my
lathe. it took quite awhile, but came out super clean. the
14bolt hub is very similar to the hd60 hub.

14 bolt hub OD is approx: 4.25" (I think) it's been awhile since
I goofed with that stuff. you can locate rotors with more
backspacing to them to get the caliper away from the wheels.

a ford f-250 or f-350 dana 50ttb or dana 60 rotor will do this.

they're also not too* expensive to buy new.

I could machine down the OD of your hubs for you, and remove
the stud-bosses from the backside of the hub flange also.

the redrill for 5-lug is something I'm not yet* set up for....
(No rotary table in my shop....yet)

let me know via pm or email for a quote.

--Sherpa

So you are looking at redrilling the Hub & Rotor to 5 or 6 lug? I've seen to different styles of 6 lug hubs and one was very near several of the original 8 lug holes and the other one was about 1/3 cut into one of the holes. However, since the studs had to pull through the rotor first before they even reached the rotor, it wouldn't hurt anything. But if you had to rotor drilled the same way, wouldn't this make a couple of the studs weaker?

SHERPA
09-24-2002, 05:17 PM
Old Scout, you are right. I was mentioning the f-250/350

rotors for reference... (I got lost there for a moment thinking
about 8-lug stuff again)

you'd want to run a 5-lug rotor..... yup.... I try to shop at

part's houses that will allow the customer to look thru they're

reference-part's books for stuff that might work.............

--Sherpa


as for some of the previously-used 8-lug hole locations, they
can be plugged with pressed-in pins, or threaded and screw-in
bolts then cut the heads-off flush with the surface. or, thread
the holes, then install a steel allen-head screw so that it is less
than the thickness of the hub flange. then tack-weld the top and
bottom of that set-screw until you can't see it anymore. grind
anything left, (or turn it on the lathe to true-it) and redrill for the
5-lug pattern desired..........

--Sherpa

momentary brain-fart. I need to go home and relax.....

Scout Dude
09-24-2002, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by SHERPA RIG
Old Scout, you are right. ....

momentary brain-fart. I need to go home and relax.....

Ah-hem...not the only one either:flipoff2: