: Scored a pair of waggy 44s


krankitup
09-23-2002, 07:36 PM
They came out of a '86 Wagoneer. I'm getting ready to swap these into my '89 YJ along with SOA. And after hours of searching I am only left with a few questions.
1.) Does anyone have a write up on the waggy 44 rears? I've found a lot of write ups for scout 44s and suck but none for the wagoneer.
2.) By using waggy springs front and rear they should move the axles each a couple inches forward/backward. I've hear problems with people having the axle hit their gas tank (I think it was with a ford 9) Is that going to be an issue with the d44?
3.) It looks like the rear axle is SOA. Is that common with all that came out of wagoneer?
4.) I read that the drop on the d35 is offset to the right by 1/2 and on the wagoneer it's only offset 1/4. If thats true, is that going to be an issue?

Mo
09-23-2002, 07:54 PM
1. For the most part, a 44 is a 44. Widths will vary, as will gears, but that's about it until you start looking at really old junk.

2. I think it may. That's what the 3lb sledge is for.

3. don't remember.

4. 1/2 vs 1/4 what?

krankitup
09-23-2002, 08:10 PM
sorry 1/2" vs. 1/4"

Mo
09-23-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by krankitup
sorry 1/2" vs. 1/4"


then no

WillyPete
09-24-2002, 08:32 AM
all waggy rears are SOA, yes

Travis Waldher
09-24-2002, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by krankitup
They came out of a '86 Wagoneer. I'm getting ready to swap these into my '89 YJ along with SOA. And after hours of searching I am only left with a few questions.
1.) Does anyone have a write up on the waggy 44 rears? I've found a lot of write ups for scout 44s and suck but none for the wagoneer.
2.) By using waggy springs front and rear they should move the axles each a couple inches forward/backward. I've hear problems with people having the axle hit their gas tank (I think it was with a ford 9) Is that going to be an issue with the d44?
3.) It looks like the rear axle is SOA. Is that common with all that came out of wagoneer?
4.) I read that the drop on the d35 is offset to the right by 1/2 and on the wagoneer it's only offset 1/4. If thats true, is that going to be an issue?

Shoulda just emailed me.... hehe... you know I've been here before.

1) Nope, but a 44 is a 44. What do you want to know?

2) Yes, you will more than likely hit your gas tank under full compression when runnign waggie springs. Waggie springs will net you about 2-2.5" of lift alone. so.. figure longer bump stops you probably won't have a problem at all. Probably wouldn't have a problem anyway as long as you don't plan on jumping it.

3) All rear wagoneers run SOA in the rear, SUA in the front. the spring perches on the SOA 44 are not in the same place as your YJ's D35. really close though, it wouldn't be a problem using them as is. Short the pinion angle issue. you will need to cut off the perches and weld some back on with the right pinion angle, that is, if you want to do the job right.

4) offest pinions.. yeah... they are a little different. nothing to worry about though. The waggie M20 is the same way, I haven't had any issues.

Keith Strong
09-24-2002, 08:44 AM
You will probably hit the tank. If you want the waggy springs in back and do not want to relocate the tank or go fuel cell, move the hangers so the rear stays under the wheel well.

Travis Waldher
09-24-2002, 08:47 AM
oh yeah... when your front axle moves forward from teh offset spring center pin. you may/may not have steering geometry issues with the tie rod hitting the drag link.

Keep in mind you may have to relocate the steering box. ;)

krankitup
09-24-2002, 09:22 AM
Alright guys, thanks alot.

AlumCJ
09-24-2002, 09:52 AM
relating to this, how bout an offset rear waggy with two piece axles...can you convert them to one piece?

Travis Waldher
09-24-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by AlumCJ
relating to this, how bout an offset rear waggy with two piece axles...can you convert them to one piece?

I'm sure you can custom order them. ;)

tuckster
09-24-2002, 10:46 AM
IIRC the only waggies with 2-piece rears were the late 1960's and early 1970's dana 44's. The model 20 that came in later FSJ's has one-piece axles. And the logical part that follows this is that All FSJ's had front 44's except the previously mentioned late 60's early 70's models...

So, if your axles are off a '74 or newer you're good to go. If your axles are pre '74 you should probably find a different pair of axles.

Travis Waldher
09-24-2002, 11:46 AM
btw - the one pieve waggie axles from the factory (at least on the M20, wasn't aware the D44 had a 2 piece design) are still 2 piece. They just welded the nut in so it couldn't back out. ;)

CMeTopless818
09-27-2002, 02:29 PM
TOT Hi Krank :)

jeepbrew
09-27-2002, 07:02 PM
krankitup - Are you SOA?

krankitup
09-27-2002, 08:58 PM
Hey CME :grinpimp:
No jeepbrew I'm not SOA yet, I will be shortly.