YouTube - The Modern Sporting Rifle (5 minute - NSSF) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbDQUADaIkE&feature=player_embedded)

not sure if posted before, but I thought it was interesting.

YouTube - The Modern Sporting Rifle (5 minute - NSSF) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbDQUADaIkE&feature=player_embedded)

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=828776

Good video though.

I know plenty of people who hunt with EBRs including myself. As far as guns go I don't own traditional hunting type guns so I use what I have when going with friends. One of my best friends hog hunts with his SKS just because he likes the rifle. Anti's love to say there is no sporting use for "assault weapons," but anyone with half a brain knows that is just not true.

I get offers that I can borrow a rifle or shotty when I go sometimes, but hell, what's wrong with using an AK in both cases? I own these things because *I* enjoy shooting them...

I would love for PA to allow semi-auto rifles. It would give me a reason to buy an AR-10 type rifle, other than " I want one" :D

I know plenty of people who hunt with EBRs including myself. As far as guns go I don't own traditional hunting type guns so I use what I have when going with friends. One of my best friends hog hunts with his SKS just because he likes the rifle. Anti's love to say there is no sporting use for "assault weapons," but anyone with half a brain knows that is just not true.

I get offers that I can borrow a rifle or shotty when I go sometimes, but hell, what's wrong with using an AK in both cases? I own these things because *I* enjoy shooting them...

Almost every rifle I own is an "assault weapon", originally designed primarily to kill people, but many of them are now obsolete. All the way back to the Revolutionary War, but farther than that too--the Indians hunted for game (and for that matter, conducted assaults upon each other) very effectively with nothing technologically more advanced than a spear and a bow, long before white men.

White men showed up, brought muskets, and used the muskets for assault on one another and the Indians.
Cartridge ammunition was invented, put into the Trapdoor Springfield, and used for assault on the Indians (for better or for worse, the Trapdoor was possibly the worst timed military arm of American history, and is blamed in a number of circles for costing Custer dearly).
Better designs were being used in the various wars between the fledgling US and Mexico around the same timeframe, some single shot bolt guns, some magazine-fed.
The various Mosin-Nagant and Mauser designs arose roughly concurrently in the pre-to-post-WW1 era, for more effective assault upon... well... the rest of the world.
By the time WW2 concluded, manufacturing technology was such that we could crank out more rifles, in less time, using stampings, forgings, molded plastics, and we continued to evolve that technology to where we are now.

I'm lucky to be blessed with friends who are interested in all flavors even if they don't own any black rifles; the closest to "anti" I can think of, still get that the only thing between the gun grabbers and their pretty engraved wood-stocked hunting guns, are my black rifles and millions more like them.

In my NRA magazine this month there is an article pimping AR style rifles as hunting arms. There was also a commercial on last night on one of the outdoor channnels promoting their use the same way.

In my NRA magazine this month there is an article pimping AR style rifles as hunting arms. There was also a commercial on last night on one of the outdoor channnels promoting their use the same way.

I actually just listed my .308 bolt action deer rifle up for sale. The plan is to pick up an AR10 to replace it. I love the idea of hunting with an AR type rifle.

There was also a commercial on last night on one of the outdoor channnels promoting their use the same way.

:laughing: We must have been watching the same show. Personally, I don't have much use for EBR's, but I do understand the appeal. And as one who only owns one "do everything" rifle, I can see why someone would hunt with one.

I actually just listed my .308 bolt action deer rifle up for sale. The plan is to pick up an AR10 to replace it. I love the idea of hunting with an AR type rifle.

If PA changes the rules I will do the same, or just hunt at a friends place in NY :D

If PA changes the rules I will do the same, or just hunt at a friends place in NY :D

Not that this is legal advice or anything, but I've heard about a number of PA residents hunting with black rifles who've simply replaced the gas tube with a plug of sorts at the gas block, and use them as basically straight-pull bolt-actions. A spare gas tube, cut short and welded shut, makes an effective plug, and is a whole lot cheaper than another rifle. Just be sure that it's easy to demonstrate to a game warden that it's not actually semiauto.

Not that this is legal advice or anything, but I've heard about a number of PA residents hunting with black rifles who've simply replaced the gas tube with a plug of sorts at the gas block, and use them as basically straight-pull bolt-actions. A spare gas tube, cut short and welded shut, makes an effective plug, and is a whole lot cheaper than another rifle. Just be sure that it's easy to demonstrate to a game warden that it's not actually semiauto.

That is legal in PA. I am hunting on private land so if I wanted to I could probably get away with it. That being said, it's not worth the hassle, and it paints hunters in a bad light.

and it paints hunters in a bad light.

I don't agree with that at all. Making the distinction between "hunting" firearms and "evil black" firearms is how England got ALL their guns taken away... Demonizing EBR's and not bold actions is not a good practice to get into if you want to keep your deer rifle.

Chris

That is legal in PA. I am hunting on private land so if I wanted to I could probably get away with it. That being said, it's not worth the hassle, and it paints hunters in a bad light.

I don't agree with that at all. Making the distinction between "hunting" firearms and "evil black" firearms is how England got ALL their guns taken away... Demonizing EBR's and not bold actions is not a good practice to get into if you want to keep your deer rifle.

Chris

Did you read the whole post? Look at the bold print. Using and AR style rifle is illegal in PA unless it is made to operate as a manually operated rifle. I hunt on private land so nobody would know but me, but it is not worth the hassle, and doing so(using an illegal to hunt with fiream) would paint hunters in a bad light.

Did you read the whole post? Look at the bold print. Using and AR style rifle is illegal in PA unless it is made to operate as a manually operated rifle. I hunt on private land so nobody would know but me, but it is not worth the hassle, and doing so(using an illegal to hunt with fiream) would paint hunters in a bad light.

That is not how I understood the post. I agree doing something illegal is not in anyone's best interest. The way you worded it, it looks like "it paints hunters in a bad light" refers to using a legal single shot AR.

Chris