: W.E.ROCK F-Toy Rules


Big Rich
10-20-2009, 10:29 AM
These are the vehicle rules only, the rest of the safety rules (harness, helmets, window nets, etc.) can be found under one of the other vehicle sections as they are all the same

The Formula Toy competition series is designed to be a low cost driver’s class and the rules are written in an effort to keep it that way. You start with a 2 wheel drive or 4wheel drive Toyota pickup. The point of the class is to replace the truck cab/bed with a tube chassis and compete with a basically stock frame and running gear. If you imagine you’re starting with a stock vehicle as your donor, the rules are more like guidelines as to what is permitted to be changed from stock. Don’t look for loopholes because there are none. If the rules say you CAN do it...then you can do it. If the rules don't address a particular modification, you can assume it's not going to be permitted.

7.1 Axles
7.1.1: Front axle must be from 1979 - 1985 Toyota Pickup or 4Runner
7.1.2: Aftermarket/custom housings are allowed, in any width
7.1.3: Aftermarket Birfields allowed, including upsizing spline count
7.1.4: Aftermarket inner axles allowed, including upsizing spline count
7.1.5: Must use Toyota 8" third members (FJ80, V6 or 4cyl, electric locker, and non locking Tacoma/T100 diff)
7.1.6: Any factory or aftermarket ring & pinion gear sets can be used in front or rear axle
7.1.7: Must use OEM Toyota Pickup/4Runner knuckles, or aftermarket, provided only 4 fasteners, in the stock pattern are used
7.1.8: Differential shaving allowed
7.1.9: Trussing and diff armored allowed
7.1.10: Birfield eliminator kits not allowed must use Birfields.
7.1.11: Rear axle must be from 1979 - 1995 Toyota Pickup or 4Runner
7.1.12: Any Toyota 8" third member allowed (FJ80, V6 or 4cyl, electric locker, and non locking Tacoma/T100)

7.2 Cage / Chassis / Body
7.2.1: Safety cage built by an approved vendor
7.2.3: Frame must be Toyota Pickup or 4Runner frame, 2wd or 4wd

7.3 Engine
7.3.1: Toyota 20r, 21ru, 22r, 22re engines are allowed
7.3.2: Propane, EFI, or Carb allowed
7.3.3: All Motors Must:
7.3.4: 20r/22r hybrid allowed
7.3.5: Must use stock type carburetor
7.3.6: Must use stock type intake manifold
7.3.7: Must use pump gasoline
7.3.8: Must be naturally aspirated
7.3.9: Radiator must mount in front of engine
7.3.10: Electric fans allowed
7.3.11: Engine can be moved back 0"- 8" from stock
7.3.12: Engine can be moved down 0"-1" from stock

7.4 Frame
7.4.1: The frame can be stripped of all cab mounts and brackets but must have a minimum of 3 cross members including one in the very front and one in the very rear.
7.4.2: The frame length can be shortened in the rear only. The total frame length must not be less than the length of the chassis.

7.5 Steering
7.5.1: Any manual or power steering box.
7.5.2: Box must be attached to main frame rail
7.5.3: Drag link must attach to pitman arm on steering box
7.5.4: Ram assist steering is allowed
7.5.5: Any aftermarket high/cross over steer kit allowed, provided both tie-rod and draglink remain in front of axle
7.5.6: Steering must attach to stock steering arm location using the stock method (4 fasteners in stock pattern)

7.6 Transmission /Transfer case
7.6.1: Any Toyota makes or models manual or automatic transmission
7.6.2: Any Toyota gear driven mini truck case or combination of cases
7.6.3: Any manufactures gear set.
7.6.4: Any gear ratio
7.6.5: Dual case adapter must be commercially available
7.6.6: Any commercially available output shaft is allowed.

DRM
10-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the rules. I'm not competing, but since I am putting one together I might as well stick as close to these as possible ;)

desertoy
10-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Mustard Dog or DRM can you guys make this a sticky.

ftoy507
10-20-2009, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the rules. I'm not competing, but since I am putting one together I might as well stick as close to these as possible ;)


Hopefully you stick to the rules and change your mind.
Competing is a blast and the courses Lil sets up will challenge you and push the boundaries of you and your car. I honestly felt that after one season of WEROCK my ability to wheel and hit insane obstacles went up 500 percent.

Big Rich
10-20-2009, 06:44 PM
It would nice just to get a chance to meet the famous DRM, both of us have been on this board for a very long time. I joined shortly after Lance and Bob Roggy competed in AZ at the second ARCA event, even though my join date does not reflect that.....:laughing:

DRM
10-21-2009, 06:21 AM
It would nice just to get a chance to meet the famous DRM, both of us have been on this board for a very long time. I joined shortly after Lance and Bob Roggy competed in AZ at the second ARCA event, even though my join date does not reflect that.....:laughing:

I ain't all that exciting in person :p but once you guys have the 2010 schedule down I can try to drag the kids out to Dayton if you are gonna run there again and maybe you can get your wish :laughing:

Big Rich
10-21-2009, 10:00 AM
2010:
Mar. 27-28, Oroville, CA. Western Series Event #1
May 1-2, Tucson, AZ. Western Series Event #2
May 22-23, Rausch Creek, PA. Eastern Series Event #1
June 19-20, Reno, NV. Western Series Event #3
June 26-27, Dayton, TN Eastern Series Event #2
July 24-25, Hannibal, MO. Eastern Series Event #3
July 31-Aug. 1, SLC, UT. Western Series Event #4
Aug. 28-29, Dayton, TN. Eastern Series Event #4
Sept. ? Cooper Tire All Stock Nationals, location TBA
Oct. 2-3, Farmington, NM. W.E.ROCK Grand Nationals
Oct. 16-17, Oroville, CA. 2nd Annual Haul-n-Crawl
Nov. 13-14, Tucson, AZ. Put-Up or Shut-Up Shootout

DRM
10-21-2009, 10:06 AM
Then I guess you can plan on seeing me in June 2010 :cool2:

jmdzuk
11-25-2009, 08:56 PM
Is there a min. age limit for drivers/spotters ?
Im still reading the rules.......

Thanks Jeff

Big Rich
12-23-2009, 11:24 AM
Is there a min. age limit for drivers/spotters ?
Im still reading the rules.......

Thanks Jeff


Sorry I didn't catch this sooner...

16 years with a state issued drivers license, if you have someone in mind that is younger we are going to be offering a youth training class (3Days) the week before the first western series event in oroville ca..March 22-23. this will allow 14-15 year olds to compete after completing the course. If you have further questions about the youth driver class please call or pm me....
Big Rich

SanDiegoCJ
01-11-2010, 08:43 PM
So Rich, where is the event at in SLC, middle of town like in Reno ?

MT4Runner
01-12-2010, 08:19 AM
SLC?!?!?!?!?! :bounce: :bounce2:

SanDiegoCJ
01-12-2010, 06:43 PM
SLC?!?!?!?!?! :bounce: :bounce2:

Yeah, good for you because it's closer. I was hoping for a natural course at Cedar City. :(

maveric
01-23-2010, 11:05 PM
Im wondering if its gonna be where they used to hold Supercrawl.

Shocker101
07-19-2010, 11:15 PM
Soooo the six shooter kit isnt legal.

maveric
07-21-2010, 04:57 PM
Soooo the six shooter kit isnt legal.

You can run them, but you have to remove 2 of the studs to compete.

BayAreaYoda
08-04-2010, 01:09 PM
So im a bit fuzzy on what frames are legal? Any pickup or runner? And who other than hendrix makes chassis?

Dvaughn1971
09-07-2010, 08:03 AM
tire size

noahfecks
09-07-2010, 09:09 PM
tire size

Run what you want, 37's work best

twoslo4five0
09-19-2010, 05:54 PM
So im a bit fuzzy on what frames are legal? Any pickup or runner? And who other than hendrix makes chassis?

im wondering about this as well. i have one im looking at on a 92 frame. it has a 3.0 in it now that id have to loose and put my 22re and w56 into.does it have to be leaf sprung?

Supra 4x4
09-19-2010, 09:29 PM
Yes it has to have leaf springs.

77WarPig
10-11-2010, 07:45 PM
what is the tire size rule? or is it different for every event? what are most people running?

looking at building one and im doing all the research that i can before i get even close to started.

thanks!

Big Rich
10-11-2010, 07:53 PM
what is the tire size rule? or is it different for every event? what are most people running?

looking at building one and im doing all the research that i can before i get even close to started.

thanks!


Tire size is open, I think most are running 39.5 or 37

zukjunk
12-14-2010, 09:14 PM
are there limits on the wheelbase??

noahfecks
12-14-2010, 09:34 PM
No. But your cone dogging so you dont want to be 117" or something ridiculous like that:shaking:

Supra 4x4
12-14-2010, 11:27 PM
what is the tire size rule? or is it different for every event? what are most people running?

looking at building one and im doing all the research that i can before i get even close to started.

thanks!

Everybody runs 37's but there is no limit.

dirtboy488
01-21-2011, 08:36 PM
I may haved missed it but whats the shock rule?

maveric
01-23-2011, 04:38 PM
I may haved missed it but whats the shock rule?

I believe it is any commercially available "non rebuildable" shock. We are running the Bilstein 5150's. They just cant be taken apart and re-valved.

speedemon55
06-07-2011, 05:03 PM
Tuesday question, would e85 be considered pump gas? And would the fuel mods to run e85 be legal such as bigger injectors etc

maveric
06-07-2011, 05:29 PM
It should be fine. You are allowed to run propane, which isnt pump gas, and can run engine upgrades such as headers/higher compression/cam/etc, so I don't see any issues.

yota567
02-07-2012, 06:59 PM
so i know it has to be leaf sprung, but does it matter waht setup you have
is ruf and chev in the rear allright?

Brian Ellinger
02-07-2012, 10:50 PM
so i know it has to be leaf sprung, but does it matter waht setup you have
is ruf and chev in the rear allright?

Spring with 1 shackle, good to go. No limit on length or origin or either. Nor restriction on which end of the spring the shackle goes.

yota567
02-08-2012, 11:45 AM
is there a specific chassis i should get i know hendrix but do they have diferent models