: Balljoint 60 Build
DJ404564X4 10-20-2009, 10:50 PM I think it's out of a 02 Superduty...:confused:
I plan on takin down the housing a few inches on the short drivers side. And having it welded up to the tube and the cast.
The day I brought him home, he's so cute....
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/front60001.jpg
:eek:
Not much room there...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/601.jpg
Had to bring him in the house for the night...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/60front007.jpg
DJ404564X4 10-20-2009, 10:53 PM Got some Solid knuckles...:D
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/front60011.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/front60012.jpg
and Rockstomper brake brakets...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/60front018.jpg
DJ404564X4 10-20-2009, 10:55 PM Had a well built 44. Why this?
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/60front004.jpg
yes, those would be my dress Vans...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/front60005.jpg
DJ404564X4 10-20-2009, 10:57 PM Gotta love the sand blaster...:smokin:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/ATT00027.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/ATT00030.jpg
DJ404564X4 10-20-2009, 10:59 PM Ok, I'm sure your askin why I'm in here??
:confused:
This
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/ATT00004-2.jpg
That
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/ATT00013.jpg
en Dis
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/ATT00010-1.jpg
Make THIS!:grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/ballistic.jpg
DJ404564X4 10-20-2009, 11:10 PM Once I figure out how tall I need them to be I'll order up some of these upper control arm mounts, and have one welded to the housing.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/TJ/baluppermount.jpg
DrVic723 10-21-2009, 07:36 AM Thanks for the build thread, let us know if you have questions about our product or need some general advise.
Jeff
joe_and_jeep 10-21-2009, 09:26 AM I'm building an '03 Superduty 60. Subscribed. I ended up getting 97 I think ball joint knuckles and getting D50 outer. Curious to see how u cut the drivers side.
Mattsyj7 11-29-2009, 04:25 PM BUMP.
Any updates?
Im thinking about building a BJ 60 for under My TJ and would like to see some pics of this bracket kit installed.
DJ404564X4 11-29-2009, 04:37 PM should be starting on it this week. my welder has been tied up over the last couple of weeks.
jerzeyjeep 11-29-2009, 08:50 PM i am trying to figure out the same damn thing. have the same axle and trying to put it under my jk. driverside gives me no damn room for lower control arms and spring perch. keep it coming
DJ404564X4 12-04-2009, 05:44 PM cuts will be something like this...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/front60024.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/front60025.jpg
Looks good man...subscribing for updates.
TrailTamer XJ 12-04-2009, 08:04 PM i sometime wonders why nobody want to extend the short side by cut the tube then length it by using a internal sleeve that fit inside the tubes then weld it up shut so you should have much more room to work with?? :confused: similar to this from greatlakes4x4.com
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=67134
Though I would do a write up of sorts on the dana 30 I built.
The goal was to use all easy to get parts, IE stock tj inners. But to also have high steer and lockouts. And not have to build another truss for the driver side uca :stan3: . Started out as a Xj hp 30, you will also need a cj dana 30 for tubes and inner C's, and dana 44 knuckles and hubs.
First cut these off
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30003.jpg
I used the shafts to measure for the amount of tube I needed to leave on the CJ dana 30 knuckles
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30002.jpg
Cut
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30005.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30006.jpg
Doing the other side
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30007.jpg
Mocked up
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30008.jpg
I used 2" 1/8" wall dom as a internal sleeve
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30009.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30011.jpg
TrailTamer XJ 12-04-2009, 08:05 PM One side done
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30012.jpg
Just a couple of brackets left to weld on.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/madibugsmom/99%20tj/hp30013.jpg
tell me why this wont work :homer:
DJ404564X4 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM tell me why this wont work :homer:
nice job.
TrailTamer XJ 12-04-2009, 08:44 PM nice job.
the links above on that axle are not my axle FYI. I just want to learn how guys get around in here and wonders why I dont see anybody do similar thing to their D60 instead of the D30. I hope I dont pull anyone's chain
DJ404564X4 12-04-2009, 08:46 PM not my axle FYI, just want to learn how guys get around in here. I hope I dont pull anyone's chain
i caught that, good idea. i want to be able to get stock parts.
no odd ball axles.
TrailTamer XJ 12-04-2009, 08:52 PM I am no expert on the axle shafts but I'd image that its possible to get the driver side lengthened to a certain point so that using the 78'/79' driver side inner axle shaft would fit?
DJ404564X4 12-06-2009, 05:32 PM Phil started cleaning...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/FW.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/1.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-06-2009, 05:33 PM a little cutting...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00013.jpg
THIS GOT WELDED UP>>>
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00016.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-06-2009, 05:34 PM a little test fitting...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00019.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00022.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-06-2009, 07:23 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/4.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/6.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/FW2.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-06-2009, 07:24 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/7.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/3.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-08-2009, 11:08 AM got my Ballistic uppers...
Phil plans on making up his own truss, this should be good....:grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00010.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00013-1.jpg
rajincajingt 12-09-2009, 08:16 AM looks good.
The Ric 12-09-2009, 04:38 PM Build mine next. lol. Where did you get them knuclkes from? They are the beef of broccoli! What Ford product are you putting this under?
DJ404564X4 12-09-2009, 06:53 PM Build mine next. lol. Where did you get them knuclkes from? They are the beef of broccoli! What Ford product are you putting this under?
Solid
it's a limited addition Ford Rubicon, see my sig...
DJ404564X4 12-09-2009, 07:39 PM :grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00059.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-12-2009, 11:15 PM http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091909a.jpg
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091908b.jpg
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091908a.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-12-2009, 11:16 PM http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091523a.jpg
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091522a.jpg
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091519a.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-12-2009, 11:17 PM http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091335a.jpg
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091238a.jpg
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1212091237a.jpg
LowDown 12-13-2009, 07:29 AM It looks like you have a steady hand with the welder. Nice so far.
DJ404564X4 12-13-2009, 11:03 AM It looks like you have a steady hand with the welder. Nice so far.
thank you, not my welds. Phil, HOFF on the board , did those.:grinpimp:
KyleQ 12-13-2009, 12:06 PM Perfect - I'm putting together a 99' D60. Do you have any more pics or info how you cut that much away from the driver's side housing? That looks to have opened up a lot of room on that side, almost 78/79 room.
Do you have the old knuckles?
sqrl$$ 12-13-2009, 01:25 PM Sorry not trying to steal your thread, but I have some pics of how my buddy did his when we put tons under his EB.
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/sqrlmoney/Fab%20work/Ton%20swap/DSCN0487.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff33/sqrlmoney/Fab%20work/Ton%20swap/DSCN0488.jpg
DJ404564X4 12-13-2009, 01:31 PM Sorry not trying to steal your thread, but I have some pics of how my buddy did his when we put tons under his EB.
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that's cool.
we went a little more into the housing. about to where the hole is to the left.
jasongjco1 12-14-2009, 11:07 AM Great thread. I was wondering if I could make a ballistic hp60 truss work on one of these late model housings. Guess now I'll have to try. I think the big difference between these and the older style is the width of the pumpkin where the tubes press in.
KyleQ 12-14-2009, 11:22 AM Wow - you guys really hack into the housings on that side. How much material is left to hold the tube true to the pumpkin? Any strength concerns? I'm thinking the Ballistic truss may fit or be slightly modified as you guys are opening up a lot of space next to that pumpkin.
I'm surprised you are able to just cut it off, are there any plug welds or are the tubes just pressed in?
sqrl$$ 12-14-2009, 02:26 PM They are pressed way in. There is more still in the housing than what was cut off. I don't see any strength issues especially since you are welding the brackets back that tie the tube into the housing.
DJ404564X4 12-14-2009, 07:16 PM They are pressed way in. There is more still in the housing than what was cut off. I don't see any strength issues especially since you are welding the brackets back that tie the tube into the housing.
correct, plus there's still a ubber cool truss that Phil is fabbing up. :D
but i can't show pictures.....:(
imagine if you will, several speed holes, filled in with tube, cause it's cool...:grinpimp:
DJ404564X4 12-17-2009, 06:14 PM :grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/ATT00018.jpg
motofast28 12-18-2009, 01:37 AM Looks good man
HEEPJEEP 12-18-2009, 10:48 AM Never mind me, nothing to see here, asked a stupid question that I found the answer to...
DJ404564X4 12-20-2009, 09:58 AM :grinpimp:
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1219091532a.jpg
Buddha 12-20-2009, 10:16 AM Nice work!! Good to see that locals can build stuff too!!
The Ric 12-21-2009, 03:39 PM Solid
it's a limited addition Ford Rubicon, see my sig...
Awesome build! Can I borrow your welding hand for a day or two? I don't think mine have ever come out that consistent.
94yotaAZ 12-21-2009, 04:06 PM :grinpimp:
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/gearmind/Mobile%20Uploads/1219091532a.jpg
Carboard truss? Won't that be a little weak? I take that back, the speed holes will make it extra strong. :flipoff2:
Looks sick, nice build.
Carboard truss? Won't that be a little weak? I take that back, the speed holes will make it extra strong. :flipoff2:
Looks sick, nice build.
Its not just cardboard!! Dont forget the masking tape!!!:D
Awesome build! Can I borrow your welding hand for a day or two? I don't think mine have ever come out that consistent.
Its DJ's build! Im just the hired help.Thanks! It just takes alot of patience and alot practice. Im never satisfied with my welds. I always try to make them better. But with the axle on the bench, it does make welding alot easier. :D
FORDTECHGURU 12-24-2009, 03:30 PM LOOKS GOOD, two q's... in your pic, looks like a stack of dimple dies, who makes those, and, what filler rod is he using on your housing...
LOOKS GOOD, two q's... in your pic, looks like a stack of dimple dies, who makes those, and, what filler rod is he using on your housing...
The dimple dies are made by JMR Racing in Ca. And i haven't decided on the filler rod yet. I may tig weld it with NI99 or use my Miller 350P and use it in the spraytransfer mode with ER309L 0.45 . Any thoughts on what filler rod you would use?
FORDTECHGURU 01-02-2010, 02:00 PM cool, i will look into those, i just bought ni99 rod for mine, i'll lay it down with a syncro 200 in short beads, what did you use on the brackets, looks cleaner than er70s-2...
DJ404564X4 01-02-2010, 10:19 PM not sure what rod Phil used, but it sure is purdy.....:grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR5.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR10.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR11.jpg
DJ404564X4 01-02-2010, 10:22 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR6.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR1.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR4.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR2.jpg
DJ404564X4 01-02-2010, 10:25 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR3.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR12.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR8.jpg
DJ404564X4 01-02-2010, 10:27 PM Shazammm!!!!
:grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/TR9.jpg
FORDTECHGURU 01-02-2010, 10:58 PM cool, looks like ni99, he did a very nice job for you,mine will be similar, but,i'm still looking to do a double trianglulated four link, are you workin' on a rear too?
DJ404564X4 01-02-2010, 11:11 PM cool, looks like ni99, he did a very nice job for you,mine will be similar, but,i'm still looking to do a double trianglulated four link, are you workin' on a rear too?
kleek on the build in my sig....:D
FORDTECHGURU 01-03-2010, 11:00 AM haa-soooo...
DJ404564X4 01-05-2010, 09:37 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/PUM9.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/PUM10.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/PUM6.jpg
DJ404564X4 01-05-2010, 09:37 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/PUM1.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/PUM3.jpg
DJ404564X4 03-02-2010, 07:26 PM http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/60032.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/60029.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/60019.jpg
DJ404564X4 03-02-2010, 07:30 PM had to go out board with the lower links, no tires don't rub. maybe when i go to 42"s...:grinpimp:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/nic011.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/nic008.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/FRONT%2060/nic009.jpg
NORCALFJ40 03-06-2010, 06:15 PM Wow. Awsome work on the housing. Top notch fabwork!
mallkrawler16 03-06-2010, 07:53 PM sick welds man! :smokin:
sasfrontier 03-07-2010, 09:35 AM Can i get a pic of where the drag link bolts to the tierod? It looks like in the last pic it goes through the tierod from the backside, if thats the case what tre are you using on the passenger knuckle?
whitetrashxj 03-07-2010, 11:50 AM nice looking build, doing the same on my xj pretty soon, using a 14bolt in the rear,
DJ404564X4 03-07-2010, 12:38 PM Can i get a pic of where the drag link bolts to the tierod? It looks like in the last pic it goes through the tierod from the backside, if thats the case what tre are you using on the passenger knuckle?
i got it from Matt at Solid axle. the hole was to small to begin with so i took a ream to it and opened it up till it matched.
whitetrashxj 03-09-2010, 09:34 PM thoes brackets, is that a kit you can get from ballistic? im going to look right now just asking first :D
01rocktaco 03-09-2010, 10:42 PM I don't think this was answered earlier in the thread, just wanted to know....
Since you're using a panhard rod, why the need for 2 upper control arms?
DJ404564X4 03-18-2010, 07:05 PM I don't think this was answered earlier in the thread, just wanted to know....
Since you're using a panhard rod, why the need for 2 upper control arms?
i only ran one upper control arm. the other mount on top of the diff is for future use if i need it.
rubiconracerx 03-20-2010, 09:35 AM Great build thread here. I am doing a ball joint dana 60 swap in my 06 Rubi. I am trying to use my R. E. bellypan.
Few questions
1. What knuckles are you using Solid = Solid manufacturing?
2. Where did you get the high steer arms?
3. Why were you forced to go to the outside of the frame with your lower links?
DJ404564X4 03-20-2010, 09:39 AM Great build thread here. I am doing a ball joint dana 60 swap in my 06 Rubi. I am trying to use my R. E. bellypan.
Few questions
1. What knuckles are you using Solid = Solid manufacturing?
2. Where did you get the high steer arms?
3. Why were you forced to go to the outside of the frame with your lower links?
1. Matt at Solid Axle
2. Matt at Solid Axle
3. easier than tryin to make them work on the inside. no, the tires don't rub.
primate60 03-23-2010, 10:22 PM i was lookin to get those same knuckles for my '94 hp60 I read your other thread and noticed you werent using your hi steer arms... did I miss something in there why your not using them?
hadfield4wd 03-24-2010, 06:25 AM I'm going to be doning the same thing here shortly. How tall is you passenger side upper link? So I can order everything all at once.
DJ404564X4 04-09-2010, 12:31 PM i was lookin to get those same knuckles for my '94 hp60 I read your other thread and noticed you werent using your hi steer arms... did I miss something in there why your not using them?
i need to make more room, and push the front end out two or three more inches. tired of buildin...:)
wanna drive it.
I'm going to be doning the same thing here shortly. How tall is you passenger side upper link? So I can order everything all at once.
sorry, i forgot about this thread, i'll measure it for ya.
danwheeler 05-21-2010, 02:02 PM damn, very nice welds. Do you have any pics of your trackbar mount on the axle?
DJ404564X4 05-23-2010, 10:12 AM damn, very nice welds. Do you have any pics of your trackbar mount on the axle?
it's Polys'.
FAUX X 4 06-01-2010, 05:34 PM I stole and modified your idea! :D
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/Dana%2060/DSCF2360.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/Dana%2060/DSCF2397.jpg
with a little modification! :)
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/FAUX_X_4/Dana%2060/DSCF2388.jpg
The Ballistic brackets fit like a glove! :grinpimp:
IRUNROCKS 06-01-2010, 06:10 PM Keep in mind you can always flip the bracket inside out and do it like this
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh191/BOVADS/sled%20link%20build/DRZPARTS013.jpg
:laughing:
FAUX X 4 06-01-2010, 08:17 PM Keep in mind you can always flip the bracket inside out and do it like this
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh191/BOVADS/sled%20link%20build/DRZPARTS013.jpg
:laughing:
Yeah, but mines welded! :flipoff2:
theydontstop 06-01-2010, 09:21 PM Yeah, but mines welded! :flipoff2:
That's cause you have a frame. I read somewhere that when you don't have a frame, you don't need to weld them:laughing:
FAUX X 4 06-01-2010, 09:36 PM That's cause you have a frame. I read somewhere that when you don't have a frame, you don't need to weld them:laughing:
That explains a lot! :p
theydontstop 06-01-2010, 09:56 PM That explains a lot! :p
The uni-frame should break before the unwelded bracket. And in your case, the jackstands shouldn't create enough force to break them either, so you'll be find not welding too:flipoff2:
IRUNROCKS 06-02-2010, 06:48 PM Yeah, but mines welded! :flipoff2:
your supposed to weld these things on?:eek:
Gravy 07-21-2010, 03:24 PM I realize this is probably already under the rig, but why not tie the coil buckets into the inner "C"s? They are pretty close already.
whitetrashxj 12-09-2010, 09:36 AM nice welds and nice build, question for ya, did u have to turn ur inner C`s? and what did u use to get rid of the unit bearings on the 02 d60 diff?
nick
DJ404564X4 12-09-2010, 09:39 AM nice welds and nice build, question for ya, did u have to turn ur inner C`s? and what did u use to get rid of the unit bearings on the 02 d60 diff?
nick
no on the Cs and Solid hubs.
whitetrashxj 12-10-2010, 11:41 AM Your drivers side upper link mount, where did you get that from? Or did u make it? I've been looking all over ballistics site and can't find anything like that,
DJ404564X4 12-12-2010, 01:05 PM i think it started life as a Ballistic mount, and then was cut down to what you see now.
I made it to fit the truss and the housing. Custom to DJ's Dana 60
Big_Ugly_1982 05-21-2011, 08:41 PM Can this be done for a WJ? What are the spring perch differences? Did you shorten the passenger side? What suspension are you running in front? What type of steering are you running?
Thanks
DJ404564X4 05-24-2011, 05:21 PM Can this be done for a WJ? maybe
What are the spring perch differences? close to stock
Did you shorten the passenger side? no
What suspension are you running in front? Poly Performance, see my build in my sig
What type of steering are you running? Chromoly one ton TREs, for now
Thanks
There ya go..
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