: Attn Ca residents re: Gubernatorial Candidates


Chris
10-25-2009, 03:19 PM
I know it's super early for this, but it needs to be spread far and wide. All Republican candidates for Governor, Meg Whitman, who is currently ahead in the polls, Tom Campbell and Steve Poizner have stated in no uncertain terms that they are for gun control.

MW
-- Guns: She said she supports Second Amendment rights, but that an assault weapon ban and handgun restrictions are "probably the right thing in California." She does not own a gun.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/12/BACU15SUDJ.DTL

Tom Campbell


Yes, I currently support the CA "Assault Weapon Ban". The Second Amendment guarantees the individual's right to keep and bear arms appropriate to the traditional purposes for which the Second Amendment was drafted; namely, the ability of the citizenry (who were the militia in 1791, when the Bill of Rights was adopted) to be summoned to restore order in the case of breach of the peace, to hunt, to protect home, person, and property, and for sport. Against those traditional uses, the state may weigh the potential that the weapon in question could do massive harm. A field artillery piece could, on that basis, be kept from private ownership. An assault weapon designed and functional to shoot bullets in fully automatic mode with only a trivial amount of modification could also be kept from private hands. A weapon that can only be operated in semi-automatic mode, however, should be legal to possess.

I'd approach such decisions with an open mind, based on the characteristics of the weapon. If you have any specific firearm that you believe should be added to or subtracted from the current assault weapon ban, I'd be open to hearing about it and why.

Yes, I do support the current CA high capacity magazine ban. The high capacity magazine is designed to allow many shots before an individual using it can be rushed or disarmed. Police and other law enforcement officials who put their lives at risk for all of us favor this ban. I stand with them.

The AB 50 law of 2005 banned any 50 caliber rifles, including bolt action, calling them assault weapons. I disagree with the characterization of such a firearm as an assault weapon, and would not have signed that bill. Outlawing this firearm purely on the basis of the caliber of its ammunition makes illegal hunting rifles that have been legitimate for years. Further, such firearms lack the most important attribute of the kind of assault weapon that poses a public safety hazard, the ability to shoot many bullets in a very short period of time, or to be easily modified into such a weapon.

Yes, I do support the current CA law that requires handguns to be on a "CA Approved" listing prior to being sold in state. The right to keep and bear arms is to be balanced with the state's right to "well regulate" the militia. The "militia," as understood in 1791, are the citizenry capable of carrying arms. It is appropriate for the state to make the distinction between weapons appropriate to traditional Second Amendment functions of defense of home and property, hunting, sport, and being able to be summoned to quell breaches of the peace, and those weapons that pose a very great danger to a large number of persons (like a field artillery piece). Creating a list appears to me a way to do so with clarity and in advance. If there is any dispute as to whether a particular weapon should be on that list, there should be an accessible way to contest its listing in a fair hearing.

I would sign AB 962. It imposes restrictions on the sale of ammunition comparable to restrictions already in place on the sale of firearms. It is favored by policemen and women who risk their lives to protect us."


As much as it pains me, I suggest looking long and hard at Jerry Brown. While he is a Dem, he has stated several times that he does not think taxes are the answer to the states budget crisis. While he hasn't come right out and said he is pro gun, things have improved a lot at the DOJ during his time as AG and he wrote a friend of the court brief for Heller.

Seabass
10-25-2009, 05:22 PM
Bump

We're phucked

Gozuki
10-25-2009, 06:30 PM
Yep

JeepsRcool
10-26-2009, 12:11 AM
My main concern right now is the run for OC Sheriff, IE:Bill Hunt, who will give you a ccw as long as you are qualified and pass the background check :D, Our candidates for governor will almost always be some what anti gun no mater whether dem or rep, That is why we must get the 2ND incorporated...
Who you gonna vote for so I can support the team?:flipoff2:

Seabass
10-26-2009, 03:09 PM
Thanks for posting that! Just joined his campaign:D Linky for the interersted
http://www.billhuntforsheriff2010.com/

Somebody
10-26-2009, 03:56 PM
Yep

JeepsRcool
10-26-2009, 05:53 PM
Thanks for posting that! Just joined his campaign:D Linky for the interersted
http://www.billhuntforsheriff2010.com/

Check this out next week/:D
http://www.billhuntforsheriff2010.com/events/2009-10-14/this-november-5th-special-event-with-sheriff-joe

muddinmike
10-26-2009, 06:07 PM
hell I'll run for gubner. My campain will be "lets make california like Idaho and Montana"

I should win:smokin:

Pm me for my address to send your campaign donations :p

Berne
10-26-2009, 06:11 PM
so....

those are your Rep' candidates?....


not that we're THAT much better....but, jebus christ :shaking::rolleyes:




anybody find that button yet?

--B

Chris
10-26-2009, 07:14 PM
Maybe I'll talk Grendel into changing the title of this thread to something like "Who to vote for in upcoming Ca elections.

This is from Stan Perez's facebook page. Stan Perez is running for sheriff of el Dorado County. He's got my vote

(From Stan Perez)
Great question - as a military veteran, career law enforcement officer, family man, and active community member of El Dorado County for the past two decades, I know very well the issues related to Second Amendment arguments for carrying a weapon. My... role as the Sheriff however, and not a member of the judicial or legislative branches of government, would be to strictly apply existing statutes and uphold the U.S. Constitution, not interpret or modify law.
Therefore, I will immediately repeal existing departmental policy requiring residents seeking a permit to prove "good cause."

Instead, I will shift the subjective burden of demonstrating "good cause" to myself as the new Sheriff. I will accomplish this by implementing a new CCW policy and making it available to the public and online within one hour of my taking office. This new direction would define “good cause” to automatically exist for ALL residents of our county due in part to our geography, rising crime rate, reduction in deputy positions, and potential for longer response times to emergencies.

The expectation of a permit requester will be to comply with existing state law (e.g., complete State mandated firearms training and background check). No longer will additional local requirements be imposed as a condition of permit issuance. If Baca went this way I would kiss his butt at high noon in the middle of Pershing Square.

Triaged
10-27-2009, 12:01 PM
So how many conservatives will vote for Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown or 3rd party?

Right now on a calguns poll it is 92.86% Brown and 7.14% Whitman.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=234449

Would you rather have a democrat or a closet liberal republican (or an Arnold type "fiscal conservative")?

I can tell you right now I will not vote for Campbell or Whitman.

Fishslayer
10-29-2009, 11:38 AM
So how many conservatives will vote for Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown or 3rd party?

While I consider myself conservative I disagree strongly with some of the standard planks of the typical Republican platform.

I would support a liberal IF there was one I KNEW wasn't going to take my guns away, wasn't going to redistribute my stuff, and whose goal was not to decide how I should live my life.

I know... fat chance. I just basically defined "liberal." But the line is getting more faded every day...

I can tell you right now I will not vote for Campbell or Whitman.

Fuck. She's flooding our radio with ads. I'm already sick of her. Meg Whitman, that is...

surveyboy
10-29-2009, 12:02 PM
wish i could find a pro CCW sherriff for Sonoma county :(

Triaged
10-29-2009, 12:04 PM
While I consider myself conservative I disagree strongly with some of the standard planks of the typical Republican platform...Republican ≠ Conservative. I wish it did.