Ok, finally time to start this, it will be slow as the Army doesnt understand I am trying to be a racer. The specs of the rig are:
Hendrix Motorsports for the X-joints and motor mounts
22RE on Pane from Got Propane
Dual cases w/ Trail Gear 4.7 and Bobby Long output
Toy axles w/ 5.29's 30's up front, not sure on rear and lockers are in the works.
Front suspension is Trail Gear 5" leafs and FOA Bypasses
Rear suspension will be a 4 link with FOA coilovers and Bypasses
Full Hydro by PSC w/ custom pump
PRP seats and Harnesses
12Volt guy panel
all oils by Cue at 4X4oil.com
GPS provided by Rich at SBWinVPS.com
I will go into more detail on stuff as it comes, but a big thanks to JT at JT Customs for shop space and use of tools and his co-driver Matt for technical support.
Tear down...

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Ready for scrap

The beginnings of an Ftoy

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Excited to see you're entering LCQ. :bounce:

Thanks, I am farther along, but cant get the internet to get along with my phone to upload them. More tommorow.

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It was great meeting you at the bash

You know, it's been nearly a year since we've had any FToy build threads going in here.....good to see another coming

The next couple of weeks are going to be slow on any updates. Robert has a school to go to and he won't be able to work on it...its killing him :laughing: :roxy:

So what kind of shifter are you going to use:grinpimp:

So what kind of shifter are you going to use:grinpimp:

I will use the stock ones cut and bent to be comfy, eventually I might twin stick it.

I will use the stock ones cut and bent to be comfy, eventually I might twin stick it.

I thought you had the tin bender special that was hard and pink

Ok, finally time to start this, it will be slow as the Army doesnt understand I am trying to be a racer. The specs of the rig are:
22RE on Pane from Got Propane
Dual cases w/ Trail Gear 4.7 and Bobby Long output
Toy axles w/ 5.29's 30's up front, not sure on rear and lockers are in the works.
Front suspension is Trail Gear 5" leafs and FOA Bypasses
Rear suspension will be a 4 link with FOA coilovers and Bypasses
Full Hydro by PSC w/ custom pump
PRP seats and Harnesses
12Volt guy panel
all oils by Cue at 4X4oil.com
GPS provided by Rich at SBWinVPS.com
I will go into more detail on stuff as it comes, but a big thanks to JT at JT Customs for shop space and use of tools and his co-driver Matt for technical support.
Tear down...

I know where you could have got a diamond front and toy rear with links already set up, ready for full hydro, 30splines, 5:29's and ARB'S.:laughing::flipoff2:

I thought you had the tin bender special that was hard and pink

:laughing::laughing: I think he has to use that one for one year.

I will use the stock ones cut and bent to be comfy, eventually I might twin stick it.

Even with the stock shifter sitting 6" higher than you're used to in your 4Runner, it's pretty comfy...you may still need to bend for clearance around dash/t-case shifters.

I know where you could have got a diamond front and toy rear with links already set up, ready for full hydro, 30splines, 5:29's and ARB'S.:laughing::flipoff2:


Yeah I know:shaking: But at the time we had the sister thing, well now that has passed, and now I dont have have the money that we discussed. I wish I would have just done it. And yes there is a special shifter I have to run, hope my sponsers dont revoke there product:D

Well Roxy and I spent most of the day working today. She completly cleaned the chassis and I got the radiator in, pedals and the axle centered in the back ready to start the links tommorow. Let me know if something looks jacked up. Not sure on the pedals right now, might change them after the floors are in. Tons of pics, Roxy will load them in a minute.

Motor is in

another pic of motor in

Since you guys are building this for KOH this is how I would suggest building the shock mounts.

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and some bling I have gotten over the last few weeks

Since you guys are building this for KOH this is how I would suggest building the shock mounts.

So the tabs would be in the middle of the upper triangle.

last ones for the night

Just some constructive criticism (how I learned things the hard way so you don't have to):

Build your firewall--or at least mock it up--quickly. There's a lot of stuff that hangs on the firewall or placement is dictated by the firewall, like:

Ditch the stock pedal brackets. You can use the stock pedals, but the stock brackets will be a bit of a bitch to get integrated into the firewall. You can use a thicker piece of sheet to build the firewall (~1/8") where the brake and clutch masters go and hang them on it.

Push the master cylinder as high as you dare (too high and it gets hit by rocks in a rollover). If it sits too low, it is a biatch to get the steering shaft past it and pointed at the steering box.

Your pedal swing will also be affected by the firewall. That space is at least 4" shorter than you had in your Runner. They won't swing as far forward, and the bottom of the pedal is also closer to the floor (closer to your heel than the ball of your foot!)

then again, if you're building a "doghouse" firewall and expanded metal foot wells...I'll just shutthefawkup now and let you get back on with your build!

Looks good--nice work on cleaning the tubing, :roxy:!

and some bling I have gotten over the last few weeks

are these the large currie joints?

Just some constructive criticism (how I learned things the hard way so you don't have to):

Build your firewall--or at least mock it up--quickly. There's a lot of stuff that hangs on the firewall or placement is dictated by the firewall, like:

Ditch the stock pedal brackets. You can use the stock pedals, but the stock brackets will be a bit of a bitch to get integrated into the firewall. You can use a thicker piece of sheet to build the firewall (~1/8") where the brake and clutch masters go and hang them on it.

Push the master cylinder as high as you dare (too high and it gets hit by rocks in a rollover). If it sits too low, it is a biatch to get the steering shaft past it and pointed at the steering box.

Your pedal swing will also be affected by the firewall. That space is at least 4" shorter than you had in your Runner. They won't swing as far forward, and the bottom of the pedal is also closer to the floor (closer to your heel than the ball of your foot!)

then again, if you're building a "doghouse" firewall and expanded metal foot wells...I'll just shutthefawkup now and let you get back on with your build!

Looks good--nice work on cleaning the tubing, :roxy:!


I know I should ditch the stock assembly but it was a good package deal. I will look at them again today, full hydro so no worries of a shaft. And the joints are Hendrix Joints, he sells them.

So the tabs would be in the middle of the upper triangle.

Yes. Looks like it's coming along good Robert.

So the tabs would be in the middle of the upper triangle.

Yes

The efforts of all my hard work yesterday, so clean and pretty :D :roxy:

Very nice. :grinpimp:

Please tell me you are keeping the pink rings. :smokin:

Very nice. :grinpimp:

Please tell me you are keeping the pink rings. :smokin:

The pink stays :D :roxy:

looks great Robert. tell jt i said :flipoff2:

The efforts of all my hard work yesterday, so clean and pretty :D :roxy:




WOW Roxx! The chassis look great, how did you get so good at polishing tube? :laughing::laughing:

That there is a non-confurmula toyota :grinpimp:

WOW Roxx! The chassis look great, how did you get so good at polishing tube? :laughing::laughing:

Years of practice :D :roxy:

Well spent another day at the shop today, first we ran out to C-Fab here in town and picked up abunch of tabs and set up for shock tuning when the time comes. Roxy finished up the frame, it sure looks pretty, thanks baby. I chopped off the back of the frame, made a link crossmember and made up some lower mock up links and tacked them in. Let me resize them and I will post in a few.

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The rear links are looking pretty short for the size shocks you have. I would make them run up to the drive shaft U-joint and angle in a bit.

Well, no pics as there still on my phone, but have made progress, 4 link is done, just needs plateing and finish the truss, pass floor is done just needs sheeting. I started cleaning some of the unwanted crap off the motor, put on new PSC pump and mocked up the ram. I will try to get pics up this weekend as I will be there for the 4 day weekend:flipoff2: This build is taking alot of work, oh and Roxy ordered the LCE ftoy header lastnight.

updates?

Yeah, I have tons of pics, but am a phone retard and Roxy didnt come to the shop to load them. But got more done this weekend, will update soon.

ok, some pics in no particular order

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More is done, I will take pics tommorow at the shop. I know I suck at this, but figuered everyone just looks at the pics anyways, and I would hope you would critisize as I expect it.

I think your wife approves!!

Limit straps on the rear?--looks like a ton of droop!! (Keep that rear CV happy!)
Plan for bracing on the bent tube link crossmember?

When you mount your seats, try to pin them in double shear, rather than bolting them in. You'll put them in and take them out a ton while you're building it. Takes under 5 minutes, rather than 30+. You'll still put them in and take them out quite a bit while you're completing the build and prepping it for racing.

I noticed on Desertoy's MarlinCrawler FToy KOH prep thread that another firewall is required to separate the fuel cell from the driver...probably should mock that up before something else gets in the way.

I think your wife approves!!

Limit straps on the rear?--looks like a ton of droop!! (Keep that rear CV happy!)
Plan for bracing on the bent tube link crossmember?

When you mount your seats, try to pin them in double shear, rather than bolting them in. You'll put them in and take them out a ton while you're building it. Takes under 5 minutes, rather than 30+. You'll still put them in and take them out quite a bit while you're completing the build and prepping it for racing.

I noticed on Desertoy's MarlinCrawler FToy KOH prep thread that another firewall is required to separate the fuel cell from the driver...probably should mock that up before something else gets in the way.

No fuel cell..propane ;) and yes, limiting straps on the rear

I approve and will even happier after Feb :laughing: :roxy:

No fuel cell..propane ;)

Duh. :shaking:

Reading Comprehension > MT4Runner. :laughing:

So 12VoltGuy is the man, he built an amazing panel, and was quick working with my deadline. Roxy will post the pic shortly. Just want to say thanks.

so 12voltguy is the man, he built an amazing panel, and was quick working with my deadline. Roxy will post the pic shortly. Just want to say thanks.

fabulous!!!!!

Are those pink LEDs? That panel is trick. Build looks sweet!

Yes, pink LED's. Thanks, trying to get it done.

Hey Robert. Looking good! Sorry about the no-show today, I had to go rescue my sister in Montrose today. CHICS! Anyways, let me know when you need the help. Tomorrow?

I will definatly be there tommorow, about the same time. Bummer about the rescue mission.

Cool, I have a few things to do tomorrow until about noon. I will give you a call and see if you're there. Do you need the shears still?

The resuce mission was just a go pick her and her car up, no huge deal but no one else would do it! Gotta love family:D

Yes on the shears if its not too much trouble

You guys on the front range or the western slope?

How far are Grand Junction or CO Springs from Ft. Collins? We're headed to Ft. Collins to visit my brother and SIL between Christmas and New Year's.

Noah they are on the front range.

MT4Runner, Junction is around 4.5-5hrs. SW of Ft.Collins, Springs is SE but is closer (haven't driven it but I'd say 2.5-3hrs.).

FToy is looking good! I wish I was closer and I'd come lend you a hand.

Thanks, alot more done, just need to resize the pics and post.

Well, catching up on pics, got most of steering in, test fitted the bling LCE F-toy header, ordered springs and shims for the coilovers and bypasses and worked on the firewall and pass floor. Pics in no order....

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I will say, doing the sheetmetal sucks ass, I am using 063 as I got a great deal on it, wish I would have gone thinner, oh well. Unfortionatly not a ton of tech, but just doing crap work.

The fun in making sure you have enough swing in the clutch pedal before hitting the floor board.
I made my floor boards follow the side down tubes like you are doing and used the stock pedal assy, and found it is pretty close to where the clutch pedal needs to stop at. Don't want to come up short with the clutch pedal throw.
Looking good, can't wait to see this at KOH.

I will say, doing the sheetmetal sucks ass, I am using 063 as I got a great deal on it, wish I would have gone thinner, oh well. Unfortionatly not a ton of tech, but just doing crap work.

Robert, I too dread the "crap work". I'm test fitting the steering hoses, running
electrical cables, the hard brakelines are next, then the :eek: sheet metal.
Your F-Toy's coming along nicely, keep it up, you'll get there. :grinpimp:
BTW, I got the same adjustable column you have. :D

Yeah, on the firewall if you follow the down bar to look good its right there, I actually cut little slits in the sheet for the pedals to get that extra 3/4 of an inch, hope its enough. Gary once the sheetmetal is in I will start plumbing and wireing.

The fun in making sure you have enough swing in the clutch pedal before hitting the floor board.
I made my floor boards follow the side down tubes like you are doing and used the stock pedal assy, and found it is pretty close to where the clutch pedal needs to stop at. Don't want to come up short with the clutch pedal throw.
Looking good, can't wait to see this at KOH.

I pushed my driver's side floor board about 1" in front of the side down tubes.
I also cut the brake and clutch pedal arms about 3" shorter than stock so the pedal would be under the ball of my foot---this makes them a bit stiffer, but also quicker (like a short-throw shifter). The clutch pedal still just hit the floor, so I moved it up by shortening the rod at the clutch master.

I used a dual-diaphragm booster out of a 3rd gen 2wd (smaller diameter for easier fit @ steering column, but still dual-diaphragm) and a 13/16" master cylinder...so the brakes are strong, but not too stiff.

How far are Grand Junction or CO Springs from Ft. Collins? We're headed to Ft. Collins to visit my brother and SIL between Christmas and New Year's.

Fort Collins is probably a few hours away from us. If you would like to escape the family, you are more than welcome to come hang out for a day. Robert will be on leave from the 19th to Jan 3rd and will be living at the shop during that time :laughing: :roxy:

Don't really want to escape the family, I only see my brother 1x/year, but if it were closer, I'd be glad to swing by and get dirty!! :D

Yeah, on the firewall if you follow the down bar to look good its right there, I actually cut little slits in the sheet for the pedals to get that extra 3/4 of an inch, hope its enough. Gary once the sheetmetal is in I will start plumbing and wireing.
I thought those were little slits cut in the sheetmetal, that or a reflection. :D
Like MT4runner, I cut my pedals and repositioned them to set at the ball of my feet and not point up so bad, then played with the push road on the clutch master cylinder to make sure I got enough clutch.

You are doing a serious push on this car to get done, keep up the good work. :smokin:

Well, worked some more this weekend, I was burnt out on sheetmetal, so I switched gears and started all the tube work for the rear. Which also laid out where the dual yellow tops will be, and started the X behind the seats. It seams like nothing gets done because to finish one project you have to do 3 others, ohwell. Here are a few pics...

Looking good. We will be cheering you on at the lcq

Looking good. We will be cheering you on at the lcq

Sweet, thanks.

Well, worked some more this weekend, I was burnt out on sheetmetal, so I switched gears and started all the tube work for the rear. Which also laid out where the dual yellow tops will be, and started the X behind the seats. It seams like nothing gets done because to finish one project you have to do 3 others, ohwell. Here are a few pics...

Looks great!! When you get about 1 month away from the race (a month from now), make sure you finish what you're working on...all those little loose ends will kick your butt when you're trying to get loaded up to head south. Ask me how I know! :laughing:

...but at this stage, it's very nice to have something else to work on when one task gets boring. You definitely find a lot of tasks have to come together just to get one done!!

Looks good see you on the lakebed :grinpimp:

When you gonna install your shifter?:p

nice dude good luck at LCQ............................:bounce2::bounce2:

When you gonna install your shifter?:p


Sat morning after the race:flipoff2: There is no way I am trying to race with that thing, plus the sponsers might not dig it:D

Sat morning after the race:flipoff2: There is no way I am trying to race with that thing, plus the sponsers might not dig it:D

You won't have to worry about anyone seeing it if your co driver keeps his mouth on it the whole time;)

Well, been doing alot of finish welding before things get covered over. Did get my propane tank mounts in and finished up some tubework in the rear. Hopefully start shock mounts in the next day or so.

Well, last night I finally got it on its own feet, with them mounted I should have around 8 in of up and 6-7 down. I cycled the suspension and no bind but I wii need limiting straps so I dont use the shocks. Working on the fronts today.

Put a wrong pic in, new one...

I missed that you were going coilovers + bypasses. :smokin: BAD ASS!!!
You know you're now going to want a bigger motor, right? :evil: (Sorry :roxy:, you didn't just read that! :flipoff2:)

I missed that you were going coilovers + bypasses. :smokin: BAD ASS!!!
You know you're now going to want a bigger motor, right? :evil: (Sorry :roxy:, you didn't just read that! :flipoff2:)

Actually I am the one that wants the bigger motor :D :roxy:

So Robert can keep up with you in the RZR?? :laughing:

Well, got the front bypasses mounted up today, no pics, got my winch rope from Custom Splice, thank you, Got my dual battery box and 3/4 X 3/4 heims for the steering from Ruffstuff, very quality stuff thanks. But now I have a new problem, when flexed I cant turn the wheels. Between having 40's, and running the 5" TG springs, which talking to Hobie today they're much longer which is alot of my problem. So hopefully I will come up with something without having to reengineer the front end as I am running out of time and money. Any suggestions?

Really good work.

What are you hitting up front?

Can't turn because the top of the tire is in the chassis or frame?
Are you running spacers or IFS hubs? Deeper backspacing wheels (you have full hydro)

Looking really good, Robert! See ya Friday! :D

Actually I am the one that wants the bigger motor :D :roxy:

Turbo:grinpimp:

Turbo:grinpimp:

If your buying:flipoff2:

Can't turn because the top of the tire is in the chassis or frame?
Are you running spacers or IFS hubs? Deeper backspacing wheels (you have full hydro)

Its actually hitting at the back, think firewall on a fullbodied rig. I have spacers and yes full hydro, I think I will do shorter springs, drill the perch 1 in forward and just adjust the bumps acordingly. Will post pics in a few of some stuff done.

Well, we ran out on gas on the welder so cut out the panels to strengthen the bar for the rear shocks, and mocked up the front fairlead. Also is some pics of the front shocks and the center console that I work on when I need a change of scenery.

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Love the front console and shock stiffener panels! :smokin:
Using stock inner shifter boots for the range box and tranny shifters?

Robert, you should be able to drill the front perch and move the axle foreword an inch or two without changing springs. Make sure you look at the clearance between your pitman arm and your tie rod though. It might be close.

Robert, you should be able to drill the front perch and move the axle foreword an inch or two without changing springs. Make sure you look at the clearance between your pitman arm and your tie rod though. It might be close.

John, IIRC he's got full hydro, so no pitman arm.

John, IIRC he's got full hydro, so no pitman arm.

Yup, full hydro :roxy:

rig looks great, :grinpimp:

like the rear set up:beer:

Thanks everyone, picked up my batteries today, and found what I think will make a perfect muffler. They're the little resignators off of trans am's. They're about 8 in long and 6 in wide and should fit up high perfectly, hope its not too loud but got it for 10 dollars so not much of a loss.

I was gonna question the shock mounts on that long tube because I've read a lot of "That shock mount isn't strong enough for the desert" stuff on PBB but that large sheetmetal gusset addressed my concern for that tube.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=489131&stc=1&d=1261667334

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=489782&stc=1&d=1261985056

Great job on the build.

Robert and Mike have been working day and night at the shop this weekend. Robert and I were there on New Years Eve. Their goal is to have it wired and plumbed so they can hear it start...hopefully tonight *crossing fingers*. :roxy:

Saw your midnight Facebook update! :laughing:
It's a great feeling when you hear your buggy run for the first time. :grinpimp:

Update?
Todd

Update?
Todd

Not yet. I just came home and they are still working away at the shop. It may not be til tomorrow until they start it. Robert has the steering plumbed but he forgot to print off the directions and he wants to double check that before they start it.

I had to run around today and get them syn hydro oil...not so easy to find on a Saturday. Evidently we didn't think about having it here already when the time came to start the buggy :laughing: We lucked out. I called 4 Wheel Parts to ask if they had any. They didn't but one of the guys had some at home. He met me after he got off work with it, which was pretty damned cool for someone that we don't even know! :roxy:

Well, its alive!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: I posted a video on Facebook. I need to figure out how to post it here as well. Still a lot of work to do, as well as a lot of adjustments but its a good feeling to hear it run!!! :D :roxy:

noice.

Well, its alive!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: I posted a video on Facebook. I need to figure out how to post it here as well. Still a lot of work to do, as well as a lot of adjustments but its a good feeling to hear it run!!! :D :roxy:

I dont do facebook :( any way to put the video here?

I dont do facebook :( any way to put the video here?

Probably, but I am a retard and haven't figured it out yet :laughing: How do I get the video off of my iPhone and onto You Tube? :confused: :roxy:

Probably, but I am a retard and haven't figured it out yet :laughing: How do I get the video off of my iPhone and onto You Tube? :confused: :roxy:

email it to yourself, then go to youtube and upload it there.

if it's too big to email, then plug in the phone to your computer and drag it off from the same place you drag pictures.

It was cool to hear it running, thanks for the call. That's a great feeling when you have a new rig or one that's been down for a while:smokin:

rear gusset looks great:beer:

Just curious but are you going to dimple those shock stiffeners?



Looks good man!

Just curious but are you going to dimple those shock stiffeners?



Looks good man!

I was but didnt have any, and couldnt get any the size I had aleady drilled. You gonna come out and help? I am there every weekend.

What size are the holes? I can make up some custom sizes....just cuz!



Yes, I am coming this weekend no matter who else needs what!!

nice f-toy..:smokin:

will be cheering u on at KOH

Get it!!

I have a Land Use donation (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=850717&postcount=46) riding on the FToys! :grinpimp:

I finally figured out the whole YouTube thing...yay me! :laughing:

This is the video I took of the rig running on Sunday. Nothing special, but it was pretty exciting for us. :roxy:

YouTube - MrRoxy's Ftoy runs for first time!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6OXDppDkoY)

Sounds good! Hopin to fire my EB this weekend as well!

damn thats a good feeling ha!

That's awesome!! Looks great!:smokin: It's come a long ways since I dragged across the lakebed behind my Teryx!!:laughing: I'll being cheering for you at LQC!! :D

Sorry I havnt been updating this but I have been at the shop everynight, even on my lunch break. We are so close but just a lot of little stuff to do. I am on duty today so have some free time, but losing a day in the shop. I wanna thank some great people that have been helping out, and also the kickass vendors on this site that have helped us out. Brian at Frontrange for getting the ARP knuckle studs to me next day, RPM for hooking us with gauges, Custom Splice for a real nice winchline and fairlead, Ballistic if everything works out they really stepped up, Mike my co-driver came out for a few days and straight kicked ass on the wiring and Nick will be here next weekend to help final everything up and hopefully be there when it drives out of the shop for the first time. When I left yesterday, Matt from 60NINE axles was out and was doing all my finish welding, you rock. Its finally feeling like this thing might hit the lakebed afterall. Thanks to everyone else that I have forgotten about as I have only been sleeping about 4 hours a night and cant wait for KOH so I can rest:flipoff2:. And thanks to my wife, who has been juggling money to make this happen, you're the best.

I'm looking forward to being a part of the chase team!

Some more pics, I have done more, but just dont stop to take pics...

I'm looking forward to being a part of the chase team!

Thanks I owe alot of people alot of beer. I also owe a big thanks to Nick who is gonna be incharge of my pits and helping Mike and I out go over the car and such beforehand.

I've juggled so much I could be a circus act now :laughing: :roxy:

I've juggled so much I could be a circus act now :laughing: :roxy:

I thought you already were. :flipoff2:

Sorry Mel, too good of an opportunity to pass up.

The suction hose from the pump to the res. looked to be almost pinched shut. A 1 wire hydraulic hose with crimped on ends is far better than the push on stuff. The suction line can collapse which will burn up the pump fast. Nice build so far:smokin:

The suction hose from the pump to the res. looked to be almost pinched shut. A 1 wire hydraulic hose with crimped on ends is far better than the push on stuff. The suction line can collapse which will burn up the pump fast. Nice build so far:smokin:

Good call, I missed that when I first looked at the pic.

And a big thanks to JT at JT Customs for the use of the shop! It would have been damn cold working on it at the trailer park! :eek::eek:

The suction line is being addressed. We ordered new fittings to straighten out the kink.

And a big thanks to JT at JT Customs for the use of the shop! It would have been damn cold working on it at the trailer park! :eek::eek:

The suction line is being addressed. We ordered new fittings to straighten out the kink.

Which I put on yesterday, thanks Mike for ordering those, it straightened the kink, and good to go. And those push ons work great, had to cut the hose to get the old fittings out and they were only on there a week.

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/tech/reservoir_tips.pdf

Good tech for every one.

I tell most people the same thing when it comes to feeding the pump. Imagine you had a 5 gallon bucket of power steering fluid and you had 60 seconds to empty it into that pump, how would you do it. Basicly that is what the reservoir is doing, and if you cant get it in the pump, the pump cant get it out, the cavitation, then failure. Pumps only pump, they don't suck.

We use suction rated hose and crimping shouldn't be a problem if its plumbed properly.

Build's looking great, don't hesitate to call me if you have any more steering things pop up, or if there is anything else we can help with.

LG

rig is getting there:beer:

looks good!

Thanks everyone, this weekend should be the last push, and hopefully get to test this weekend. Then button up some safety stuff and paint. Thanks PSC for all your help, you are definatly a stand up vendor who goes out of there way to help.

hopefully get to test this weekend. Then button up some safety stuff and paint.

Frickin' awesome!! :grinpimp:
you have really kicked ass on this build!

Wow Robert, it's finally all coming together. I had my doubts but it looks like you just might make it. Keep pushing, even when you think your done.....your not :D:D

Wow Robert, it's finally all coming together. I had my doubts but it looks like you just might make it. Keep pushing, even when you think your done.....your not :D:D


Thank you, pulled #7 so one less day to work on it:eek: Getting nervous.

Thank you, pulled #7 so one less day to work on it:eek: Getting nervous.
I've got faith!

Thanks for that info, my internet buffered through the whole video. I am more worried about trapdoor than back door.

Prerun that bish like a mofo!!!

Thank you, pulled #7 so one less day to work on it:eek: Getting nervous.

I'll be there mid-day Sunday and will give you a hand if you're still wrenchin' on it. Hopefully you're together and can just spend the time tuning shocks!! :grinpimp:

I'm really proud of you Robert Foster!!! :D :roxy:

I'm really proud of you Robert Foster!!! :D :roxy:
when do you sleep :confused: :eek:

Congrats on pulling #7 Robert!

when do you sleep :confused: :eek:

Last night I was up WAY too late. :laughing: :roxy:

when do you sleep :confused: :eek:

During the day, she's a vampiress. :flipoff2:

Keep at it Robert, looks great...see you out there!!

i hope you are still working!:smokin:

Last push this weekend, got enough people we should finish except for bumpstops, which are still enroute.

It runs, it drives, it MOVES!!!! It went to the exhaust shop yesterday. A big thanks to Nick and Jeff for all of the help this weekend. The rig looks great! Jeff is sheet metal wizard!! Robert has a bunch of pics that hopefully he will post up soon. :roxy:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Sweet! Good luck at KOH!

Last push this weekend, got enough people we should finish except for bumpstops, which are still enroute.
bump stops are overrated... :eek:

It runs, it drives, it MOVES!!!! It went to the exhaust shop yesterday. A big thanks to Nick and Jeff for all of the help this weekend. The rig looks great! Jeff is sheet metal wizard!! Robert has a bunch of pics that hopefully he will post up soon. :roxy:




I wouldnt say I am a wizard:D But I am glad I could help. I need to get my ass back up there this week and get the fire system all installed!

What spring rate did you end up with on the rear coil overs?

bump stops are overrated... :eek:
Just ask Hobie. He's run all the KOH races without them.

What spring rate did you end up with on the rear coil overs?

I am pretty sure I have 125 over 175 if memory serves. Was hoping to shock tune this weekend, but only if my bumps show up tommorow. Was told they went out today overnight. We shall see.

I am pretty sure I have 125 over 175 if memory serves. Was hoping to shock tune this weekend, but only if my bumps show up tommorow. Was told they went out today overnight. We shall see.

Lets see some pictures :grinpimp:

Well, sorry I haven't updated, but been really busy. I will let the pics speak for themselves, but I must thank Cue for a box of amsoil he is the man. Also, Balistic Fab sent four 2.5 X 4 airbumps and cans. Great quality and been great to work with. These things are beautiful.

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some more

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Your car is looking sexxy!! Are you paying your painter enough? :lauging:

Are you going to run "wing window bars" or just dropping the window nets down that tape line? Nets from PRP?

rig looks like it's really coming together! I'm getting excited about this trip, I can't imagine how you're feeling!

Your car is looking sexxy!! Are you paying your painter enough? :lauging:

Are you going to run "wing window bars" or just dropping the window nets down that tape line? Nets from PRP?

I suck so bad at painting that I don't deserved to be paid. Please don't look too closely at my work. :laughing:

The window nets are borrowed from Brett, from his old Ftoy. In the wing window there will be another smaller net. :roxy:

I suck so bad at painting that I don't deserved to be paid. Please don't look too closely at my work. :laughing:

The window nets are borrowed from Brett, from his old Ftoy. In the wing window there will be another smaller net. :roxy:

Don't feel bad Mel, I've been doing some painting on mine and I suck at it too. :laughing:

It's hard to get a great paint job with rattle cans in a dusty shop. I've found that it works well to put 2 good coats on and letting it cure out well, then going over it with some 200-grit sandpaper to knock down the drips, runs, or dust pimples. Then a good coat over that (make sure it's not too dusty that day!!)

fabulous!!!!!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=484637&stc=1&d=1259990783
Are those pink LEDs? That panel is trick. Build looks sweet!

yup
I made up pink LEDs a few years ago for there 4 runner & have not used more until this one
polished aluminum
pink LEDs
pink engraved words:grinpimp:

It's hard to get a great paint job with rattle cans in a dusty shop. I've found that it works well to put 2 good coats on and letting it cure out well, then going over it with some 200-grit sandpaper to knock down the drips, runs, or dust pimples. Then a good coat over that (make sure it's not too dusty that day!!)

I wish I had the time to do it right but at this point we're just lucky its getting painted at all. The problem is I will paint a section, it will dry and then the guys will lean on it with their greasy hands, leaving marks. So, I've been cleaning up marks, going over them again and then hitting them with a clear overcoat. Plus I'm trying to paint while they are trying to work on things. It won't be the prettiest or the best paint job, but it will be painted. :laughing: :roxy:

That is exactly how mine got painted in the weeks leading up to KOH '09..

...and I'm trying to make it look decent now a year later. :laughing:

The overcoat won't hurt a bit!! Great idea! :idea:

2 quick questions: What kind of tires and tire size will you be running?
What, if anything, will you do with the rear drum brakes?

hey robert, i am about to install air bumps, the same way you did, but i imagined the cans being further back. did you break that down to the main leaf and checked it before you burned them in?

hey robert, i am about to install air bumps, the same way you did, but i imagined the cans being further back. did you break that down to the main leaf and checked it before you burned them in?

Hobie, call him on his cell. He's working at the shop :roxy:

2 quick questions: What kind of tires and tire size will you be running?
What, if anything, will you do with the rear drum brakes?

Pretty sure those are 39.5 Iroks.

If you upgrade to a V6 (1") master cylinder and dual-diaphragm brake booster, you can stop those big meats pretty well with stock rear brakes and discs up front. Dual-diaphragm boosters are found on 2nd gen Turbo trucks, all V6 (2nd and 3rd gen) trucks, and all 3rd gen trucks--inc. 22RE and 2wd.

If you need space to fit your steering shaft, the Turbo trucks and 3rd gen 2wd trucks have a smaller diameter double-diaphragm booster.

Might be the camera angle but it looks like there is more wheel travel and shock travel on the front. Also have you cycled the rear suspension looks like the tires will hit the shock when the axle is articulated. Hope it just the camera.

Pretty sure those are 39.5 Iroks.

If you upgrade to a V6 (1") master cylinder and dual-diaphragm brake booster, you can stop those big meats pretty well with stock rear brakes and discs up front. Dual-diaphragm boosters are found on 2nd gen Turbo trucks, all V6 (2nd and 3rd gen) trucks, and all 3rd gen trucks--inc. 22RE and 2wd.

If you need space to fit your steering shaft, the Turbo trucks and 3rd gen 2wd trucks have a smaller diameter double-diaphragm booster.


Thanks for the info.

Might be the camera angle but it looks like there is more wheel travel and shock travel on the front. Also have you cycled the rear suspension looks like the tires will hit the shock when the axle is articulated. Hope it just the camera.

Everything has been cycled, the front has just shy of 5 in uptravel, and the bumps bottom about 3/8 of an inch before the shock. The rear at full stuff just barely doesnt rub, I got really lucky.

Robert, the rig looks great. I look forward to seeing it along with you and Mel at KOH. :D

You had a helluva rollercoaster last week! :eek:

Busted knuckle studs, got them fixed the night before LCQ, a tense day during the 2nd day of LCQ hoping not too many people got in before you, getting in, and getting it all together for the big race!!

I was at CP 7 at the top of Hell's Gate (so was Greg/FToy 38) just waiting for you guys to get there. Greg and I were also monitoring the Bender freq, and our hearts dropped when you said you were DNF'ing worried your car would melt. :( what tid it turn out to be?

Good to see you last week--you got a ton of stuff done and built and running in a couple of short months and you made it all the way to KOH. You did awesome!! :beer: (now go take a friggin' nap!!) :blackflipoff2:

Thanks, Shawn!

The initial problem on Aftershock was on the rocklight circuit. We had a meltdown on the circuit breaker, for whatever reason.

Shortly after completing the trail, on the way to Hell's Gate, we lost the main ignition circuit. I replaced the fuse, but didn't know what caused the short. A hundred yards down the course, it popped again. I can't say for sure, but I think it was in the brake light circuit, powered off of the ignition switch. We're going to take our time and completely rewire the car, breaking everything down into individual ciruits, with a proper fuse block. I like the 12 Volt Guy panel, but it's not a complet system.

I wired in the distributor and fuel solenoid, and we drove out under our own power. A couple miles later, we had a drivetrain issue. Pretty sure it was a trunnion bearing letting go.

I had a great time, and wouldn't hesitate to do it again! I think if he doesn't get deployed next year, Robert would too.

Thanks to Robert for the ride, to our crew chief Nick, our head chef Tina, Ape Eaters, Rich, Soundguy, and the Texas crew, Hobie's pit crew, Brett Porter's pit crew, and everybody else that lent a hand. It seemed that anytime we needed anything, people wanted to jump in and help us out. Truly awesome!

The best thing of all was that through the entire course, we could hear Carrie Steiner running the Bender radio relay. It was a great comfort to know that no matter where we were, we could get help. She spent the entire race up on Fissure Mountain, just for us. I never saw her after the race, but I really want to say THANK YOU CARRIE! :D

And let's not forget the support of our wives, even if they don't understand what makes us want to do this! :D:D:D

PSC helped us out with some last minute steering issues, Chris at FOA set up the bypass shocks, and BFG hooked us up with a set of their KRT tires.

In The Pink Racing managed to put in 6 miles in the LCQ, plus 49 in the big race, for a total of 55 miles. $550 to BRC from the Tin:skull:Benders for our efforts!

Congrats on making it as far as you did. That in itself is a major acomplishment! :beer:

Car looked great. Sorry you guys didn't make it to the finish, but I'm glad that you still have a rig!


Ohh, and thanks for running over my foot! :flipoff2:

We're going to take our time and completely rewire the car, breaking everything down into individual ciruits, with a proper fuse block. I like the 12 Volt Guy panel, but it's not a complet system.


Thanks for the heads-up that it's not complete...my buggy is running, but not wired up for full on race duty.

XJ's/MJ's have a nice integrated fuse panel that has relay slots built-in, if you're looking for something to stuff under the dash to wire to--with the 12vg panel in front for switching.

The best thing of all was that through the entire course, we could hear Carrie Steiner running the Bender radio relay. It was a great comfort to know that no matter where we were, we could get help. She spent the entire race up on Fissure Mountain, just for us. I never saw her after the race, but I really want to say THANK YOU CARRIE! :D

She was also helping Wild Bill with BFG Relay--and handled most of the radio traffic while Bill was busy handling coordination with evac'ing Ken Mercer after his fire and the injuries on Sledge. She was a very, very busy lady that day!! (I'm impressed--how did your team score her awesome services!?!)

for being such a last minute build, this was definitely a success. good job robert and crew.:smokin:

The best thing of all was that through the entire course, we could hear Carrie Steiner running the Bender radio relay. It was a great comfort to know that no matter where we were, we could get help. She spent the entire race up on Fissure Mountain, just for us. I never saw her after the race, but I really want to say THANK YOU CARRIE! :D

I agree 100% I really wanted to meet her so I could thank her in person. She worked her ass off on Friday! We would have been completely in the dark without her.

She was also helping Wild Bill with BFG Relay--and handled most of the radio traffic while Bill was busy handling coordination with evac'ing Ken Mercer after his fire and the injuries on Sledge. She was a very, very busy lady that day!! (I'm impressed--how did your team score her awesome services!?!)

I would rate her an A+ for sure.






I had a BLAST this week, and will be back wrenching/pitting for In The Pink again next year for sure. I'm coming out all week next year though!

Just wanted to take a minute and say thanks. I had a fawkin blast and I'm already looking at next Feb on the calendar.

To Aaron, Rich and Steve thanks for getting my ass out there and a place to sleep while there. I couldn't have afforded the trip if we weren't splitting cost.

Robert and Mike thanks for the chance. Y'all made it into the big race but you made an opportunity for the rest of us to ride those coat tails.

Nick and Tina thanks for the FOOD and the hospitality (best pit mom EVAR). Nick thanks for letting a few gomers you've never met do what they know how to do the best way they know how without second guessing for a second. It's not often that a group of "strangers" can work together under stress without butting heads and that happened this week from what I can tell.

The rest of the Benders thanks for the camaraderie y'all are a hell of a group of people. Y'all were all competing against each other but for the most part it seemed when the chips were down and a Bender needed something it was handled. That was really cool to see. :beer:

And with that I say good day :flipoff2:

Some pics i've found so far

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/jeffd3939/KOH%202010/PICT0104.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/jeffd3939/KOH%202010/PICT0217.jpg

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Using their rope from Custom Splice during the LCQ...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=120720&g2_serialNumber=3

http://www.pirate4x4.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=120723&g2_serialNumber=3

http://www.pirate4x4.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=120726&g2_serialNumber=3

good on robert and roxy! hard work the entire week!

Congrats guys, you were a hardworking team.

If I can get a PM Id appreaciate it. Thanks

Congrats guys, you were a hardworking team.

If I can get a PM Id appreaciate it. Thanks
I know they didn't get home until sometime late last night. It might take them a day or so to get everything caught back up and the trailer unpacked.

I just have to say that I think this build/race/team effort was amazing. I had such a wonderful time being Pit Mom. I would do it again in a heartbeat!! You guys that came out to help and be the "crew" are some of the greatest people I have EVER had the pleasure of meeting!!

Some pics i've found so far

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/jeffd3939/KOH%202010/PICT0104.jpg

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/jeffd3939/KOH%202010/PICT0217.jpg


Hey, I took those pics!:p I had a great time chasing/helping you guys! I am still tired from all the running around:D



Thanks Nick and Tina for the food, Thanks to everyone that helped out. Congrats Robert and Mike, you guys did a great job.

why did you change out the bfg's?

why did you change out the bfg's?

The BFG's were run during the main race. Interco's were run during th LCQ.
Some lake bed angels hooked him up with a BFG sponsorship.

I just want to thank everyone that was a part of this, it was a crazy dream and alot of great friends made it a reality. I said I would only do it this year but I think the bug has been caught, so I will hopefully be back next year, and hope all my friends will be too. Alot of work needs to be done to the car, but I am going to take a week or so off and enjoy life again. Thanks again goes out to Mike, your a great co dawg, Nick and Tina, I dont know where to start, but thanks a million for everything, Rich you the man, you worked your ass off, and Aaron, Steven, Gary and Jody and Jeff and Billy and anyone else I forgot, couldnt have done this without you guys. I made it farther than I ever thought imaginable on a untested car, next year we finish.
Robert

I made it farther than I ever thought imaginable on a untested car, next year we finish.
Robert

right on.:smokin:

I love you Robert Foster and Michael R. Stowe! I'm really proud of you guys and of how far along you came!!!:bounce: What an amazing team effort!!! So glad you had such an awesome supportive team that came from all over to help you out. Seriously, what a great bunch of people! I was glad to meet the Texas crew and Apeters. Nick, outstanding job on running that tight ship and Tina, it looks like you found a new career in being a pit mom extraordinaire!:D Roxy and Kim, I hope you finally got some sweet alone time with your KOH competitor guys!:goofball:

I love you Robert Foster and Michael R. Stowe! I'm really proud of you guys and of how far along you came!!!:bounce: What an amazing team effort!!! So glad you had such an awesome supportive team that came from all over to help you out. Seriously, what a great bunch of people! I was glad to meet the Texas crew and Apeters. Nick, outstanding job on running that tight ship and Tina, it looks like you found a new career in being a pit mom extraordinaire!:D Roxy and Kim, I hope you finally got some sweet alone time with your KOH competitor guys!:goofball:

well it was nice meeting you too. :handsonhipskickingrocks::flipoff2:

well it was nice meeting you too. :handsonhipskickingrocks::flipoff2:

:laughing:

well it was nice meeting you too. :handsonhipskickingrocks::flipoff2:
What's your name in real life?:flipoff2:

Did we meet?:emb2:

What's your name in real life?:flipoff2:

Did we meet?:emb2:

i was the ugly little guy named billy.
with the ugly toyota.:(
and i smelled bad too.:(
dammit.

edit-- nevermind, i was never there, you never met me, and i'm tall and handsome and have a sweet ride. chicks totally dig me and stuff.

i was the ugly little guy named billy.
with the ugly toyota.:(
and i smelled bad too.:(
dammit.


Thats funny:flipoff2: I need to talk with you more about doing the 80 front, I think it will be the way to go.

Thats funny:flipoff2: I need to talk with you more about doing the 80 front, I think it will be the way to go.

that's what i wanted to hear.:smokin:
i have all the info you need on building a KOH worthy toyota front end. i'll even have some nice parts in a few months too. you'll be happy with the look and the strength.:D

Robert, enjoyed meeting you and looking over your FToy. You did a lot of really nice work.

How did the shock tuning turn out? I spoke to you before you completed the tuning and never got back to see how it worked out.

How did your mileage situation end up? The 80 front is teh bomb too.:grinpimp:

How did your mileage situation end up? The 80 front is teh bomb too.:grinpimp:

Its getting better, I think I used 2.5 tanks, and it was all desert. Definatly open to other options besides fabricated. Thanks Carey for all your help, the car runs great.

Guys, you ran a great race!!! I had a great time start to finish. If next year In The Pink rides again you can count on my support. Thanks to the pit staff, we had it nailed down. Of course thanks to all the sig others who made this happen. Still dying to know what wire did us in, but take a break it isn't going anywhere. Hope everyone made it home safe and sound and my condolences to all the washing machine owners who seem to have adopted our traveling gremlin.
PS: Billy get two of those 80's ready!

Using their rope from Custom Splice during the LCQ...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=120726&g2_serialNumber=3

apeters, do you know who took these pics?? I'm redoing Custom Splice' website right now and would like to use something like this in his gallery if I can get permission. Thx,

Its getting better, I think I used 2.5 tanks, and it was all desert. Definatly open to other options besides fabricated. Thanks Carey for all your help, the car runs great.
Unless you guys swapped tanks at main pit, or along the trail somewhere, we only swapped tanks once. That was at the 2nd BFG Remote pit.


apeters, do you know who took these pics?? I'm redoing Custom Splice' website right now and would like to use something like this in his gallery if I can get permission. Thx,

It was in the PBB gallery, you'll have to check with Lance sorry.

Btw, it was great seeing the rig out at KOH after following the build here - turned out great! It's crazy seeing bypasses on a leaf sprung rig:grinpimp:

It was in the PBB gallery, you'll have to check with Lance sorry.

I'll do that, thanks :beer:

I'll do that, thanks :beer:

There are a few of me winching up back door, feel free to use whatever ones you want. If need be I will talk to Lance for permission.

There are a few of me winching up back door, feel free to use whatever ones you want. If need be I will talk to Lance for permission.

Those were taken by Michael Scott(battlebuddy618). He was shooting them for pirate. I am not sure if he has anymore?

BTW...i could not believe how calm you stayed during the LCQ. I would have been freaking out! Two thumbs up on your KOH performance.:D

How well did your suspension do during the race? Are you going to change any of it?


Yours is one of my favorites! I hope to see you out there again next year.

Those were taken by Michael Scott(battlebuddy618). He was shooting them for pirate. I am not sure if he has anymore?

BTW...i could not believe how calm you stayed during the LCQ. I would have been freaking out! Two thumbs up on your KOH performance.:D

Yup, that pic was one of mine. Here's the original without the p4x4 watermark and a couple more from backdoor.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/batttlebuddy618/IMG_0909.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/batttlebuddy618/IMG_0910.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/batttlebuddy618/IMG_0914.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/batttlebuddy618/IMG_0911.jpg

DesertPOS if you can use these photos let me know via pm and we'll work something out.

Mr. Roxy you have one killer ride. Can't wait to see it in action again!!

Those are great pics. Thanks for taking them. I wasn't able to be there to watch so it shows me a little of what went on :roxy:

Those are great pics. Thanks for taking them. I wasn't able to be there to watch so it shows me a little of what went on :roxy:

I haved some pics I'll share of them from LCQ later. They were from slightly further away though.:laughing:

next year we win.
Robert

Had to fix that for you Robert......

Did you have time to diagnose the electrical gremlin, or is the car still parked in the back of the race trailer? :laughing:

(Mine is still in my Toter, covered in JV mud--I did unload it to winch a dead Chevy onto a trailer...and loaded it back up). :laughing:

I finally got the snow off it and took it too the shop yesterday. I went riding yesterday so really sore, but might go down today and hose it off and start pulling it apart. I will update on all changes and issues as they come.

Hey Robert, you dont have to give me such dirty looks when swerve into the wrong lane of traffic trying to side swipe you!:flipoff2:

Of course I was in my 4runner so you probably didnt even know it was me!

robert, i haven't found an axle for you yet, but the one that i was going to put under my 83 can go to you since there is no rush on my 83. i'm just waiting for the knuckle system and i'll have a complete axle for you. i lost your number after going through 3 phones in 2 weeks, so call me if you have any ?'s.

Well, time to start updating, tommorow I am going to start rewiring the whole buggy, useing GM weatherpak connectors. I will update where the short is when I find it. 12 Volt Guy is fully a stand up vendor and is fixing the switches that melted. The biggest news is picking up BillyBob13 as a sponser for this year. He putting together a fj80 front end for me with his new knuckles and highsteer arms. I think it will definatly open up a new direction for people wanting width and strength and stay Toyota. I will be switching to a PSC 8" double ended ram and ditching the elocker for a detroit for simplicity. DMS Fab will be helping me fix my propane mounting to switch it to a style like Hobie's rig, and redoing some of the sheetmetal to help it flow better and give me more storage. We are definatly gonna try to work torwards KOH 2011.

Well, time to start updating, tommorow I am going to start rewiring the whole buggy, useing GM weatherpak connectors. I will update where the short is when I find it. 12 Volt Guy is fully a stand up vendor and is fixing the switches that melted. The biggest news is picking up BillyBob13 as a sponser for this year. He putting together a fj80 front end for me with his new knuckles and highsteer arms. I think it will definatly open up a new direction for people wanting width and strength and stay Toyota. I will be switching to a PSC 8" double ended ram and ditching the elocker for a detroit for simplicity. DMS Fab will be helping me fix my propane mounting to switch it to a style like Hobie's rig, and redoing some of the sheetmetal to help it flow better and give me more storage. We are definatly gonna try to work torwards KOH 2011.

PLEASE EXPLAIN AS YOUR PM TO ME SAID......NOT MY PANELS FAULT;)
but I'll still take care of you:grinpimp:

Don't forget the pics!!

PLEASE EXPLAIN AS YOUR PM TO ME SAID......NOT MY PANELS FAULT;)
but I'll still take care of you:grinpimp:

Sorry, it came out wrong as I had been up for almost 48 hours at the point of writing that. Your panel was not at fault, there was a short which caused a fire which melted some switches. Most vendors would not be willing to help out, but you are helping out even though it wasnt you or your panels fault. I will try to get it out today to you, I have been really busy and trying to catch up from KOH.

Sorry, it came out wrong as I had been up for almost 48 hours at the point of writing that. Your panel was not at fault, there was a short which caused a fire which melted some switches. Most vendors would not be willing to help out, but you are helping out even though it wasnt you or your panels fault. I will try to get it out today to you, I have been really busy and trying to catch up from KOH.

:grinpimp:
just don't want to scare people thinking my stuff will burn to the ground:eek::laughing:
I'll keep an eye out for it

Well, time to start updating, tommorow I am going to start rewiring the whole buggy, useing GM weatherpak connectors. I will update where the short is when I find it. 12 Volt Guy is fully a stand up vendor and is fixing the switches that melted. The biggest news is picking up BillyBob13 as a sponser for this year. He putting together a fj80 front end for me with his new knuckles and highsteer arms. I think it will definatly open up a new direction for people wanting width and strength and stay Toyota. I will be switching to a PSC 8" double ended ram and ditching the elocker for a detroit for simplicity. DMS Fab will be helping me fix my propane mounting to switch it to a style like Hobie's rig, and redoing some of the sheetmetal to help it flow better and give me more storage. We are definatly gonna try to work torwards KOH 2011.


Hey man! Let me know when you ditch the front axle and steering parts you have. I could kind of use the parts you have.....if you are selling them!:D Those longs and elocker would look might fine in my Trail-Gixxer:flipoff2:

Well, time to start updating, tommorow I am going to start rewiring the whole buggy, useing GM weatherpak connectors. I will update where the short is when I find it.

I'm eager to hear what you find. I'm sorry this took you out of the race--but you might save someone else the same heartache!!!

I'm eager to hear what you find. I'm sorry this took you out of the race--but you might save someone else the same heartache!!!

I agree. I've started the wiring on mine and I'd like to avoid the same thing happening.

Well, pulled the car apart this weekend, the wire to one of the rear rocklights was shorted to the frame which was the first of our problems. We went over the rest of the wireing and cant find any issues, so we think maybe there was just too many amps pulling on the ignition circiut or there is a pinch we are missing. The one thin we messed up on, is we should have loomed the wires, we were in a rush and regret it. Will follow this up when I have the money to loom and buy the new connectors and the one relay I need.

Well, pulled the car apart this weekend, the wire to one of the rear rocklights was shorted to the frame which was the first of our problems. We went over the rest of the wireing and cant find any issues, so we think maybe there was just too many amps pulling on the ignition circiut or there is a pinch we are missing. The one thin we messed up on, is we should have loomed the wires, we were in a rush and regret it. Will follow this up when I have the money to loom and buy the new connectors and the one relay I need.

So will you add a separate sub-relay to the Ign circuit for accessories that comes on when the Ign relay is triggered...or just go with a larger main Ign relay?

Sucks to hear about that rock light short. :mad3:
Was that then pulling on your Ign circuit?

So will you add a separate sub-relay to the Ign circuit for accessories that comes on when the Ign relay is triggered...or just go with a larger main Ign relay?

Sucks to hear about that rock light short. :mad3:
Was that then pulling on your Ign circuit?

Well, I am sure thats what caused the smoldering meltdown, so I think it might have overloaded the rest of the ign curcuit. Even after we cut it out, it maybe weekened some where else, if that makes sense.

Thanks Robert. That post reinforces the idea I've had to use relays to isolate
different functions of the electrical system. Engine/computer on one relay,
lights on another, and accessories on another. All the relays would be activated
by the ignition switch.

Thanks Robert. That post reinforces the idea I've had to use relays to isolate
different functions of the electrical system. Engine/computer on one relay,
lights on another, and accessories on another. All the relays would be activated
by the ignition switch.
just make sure the power source for that relay is fused.

I have them on completely separate relays--IGN on one relay, Headlights on one relay, Fuel pump on one relay, Low amp Accessories (12V plug/GPS/radio) are direct fused....because sometimes I like to have my lights and radio on when the IGN is off.

Edit: to add to what apeters89 said, I have fusible links from my battery to my +12V bus before the relays.

Mine were fused also, one for ign, one for lights and one for horn. I kept blowing the fuse from the battery to ign relay, so who knows. I hate wireing.

Yeah, it's gremlins like this that make everyone hate it!

just make sure the power source for that relay is fused.

Absolutely.

Well here we go again, if one year punishment wasn't enough, lets try again. In the Pink Racing will be going for it in KOH 2011. Unfortionatly, I wont be there, as the Army wants me to train in the sticks that month, But my good friend and co-dawg last year Mike Stowe will be piloting the car, Aaron Peeters, who has been a good friend and helped out last year will be his co-dawg. This year we will be switching Crew Chiefs, Rich will be taking that spot as he is a great sponser and worked his ass off last year. In the Pink Racing would like to thank all the sponsers from last year and look forward to working with them agian. Stay tuned for updates on changes to car. Will post some current pics if I can ever get over to the shop.
Robert

Well here we go again, if one year punishment wasn't enough, lets try again. In the Pink Racing will be going for it in KOH 2011. Unfortunately, I wont be there, as the Army wants me to train in the sticks that month, But my good friend and co-dawg last year Mike Stowe will be piloting the car, Aaron Peters, who has been a good friend and helped out last year will be his co-dawg. This year we will be switching Crew Chiefs, Rich will be taking that spot as he is a great sponsor and worked his ass off last year. In the Pink Racing would like to thank all the sponsors from last year and look forward to working with them again. Stay tuned for updates on changes to car. Will post some current pics if I can ever get over to the shop.
Robert

I'm very excited to be a part of this team again this year, even more so because I get to be in the car this year! I think we've got a really good team coming together for February. It sucks that you won't get to be there in person :(

I would like to thank you, and Roxy, for giving me a chance to be in the car this year. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Sux that you can't be there Robert. :(

The way it looks now Sharon and I are going to make it on wednesday and since
our TDS pre-run isn't until the following weekend we won't have to leave friday
at 3pm like we did this year. We're looking forward to meeting everyone again
and hopefully being able to spend some relaxing time with everyone after the
race is over.

Sux that you can't be there Robert. :(

The way it looks now Sharon and I are going to make it on wednesday and since
our TDS pre-run isn't until the following weekend we won't have to leave friday
at 3pm like we did this year. We're looking forward to meeting everyone again
and hopefully being able to spend some relaxing time with everyone after the
race is over.
Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk to y'all any longer than I did last year. Hopefully we'll get to talk longer this year.

:D

Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk to y'all any longer than I did last year. Hopefully we'll get to talk longer this year.

:D

I hope so. You guys were real busy with the rig, so we understand.
We won't have to leave until Sunday morning, so there should be time. :D

LCQ again?