Did a search...Alot of people were building project with coils, Different donors, Different makes....

What coils are you running and how are they working for you...

Im starting my suspension design for the new project and going to do coils front and rear....Debating what coils...

AFCO
Aerostar
4Runner
TJ front

























oh yeah:flipoff2:

Originally posted by RudeZuk
Did a search...Alot of people were building project with coils, Different donors, Different makes....

What coils are you running and how are they working for you...

Im starting my suspension design for the new project and going to do coils front and rear....Debating what coils...

AFCO
Aerostar
4Runner
TJ front


I'm running the same coils as the shaffer kit. HAL 150lb from summit

14x2-1/2 coil-over springs.

200 lb/in front
175 lb/in rear

On sale here for $33.25 each.... Sale ends 9/30! :D
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/springs7.htm

In the rear I'm running rears from a 4Runner. Cost: free. There's a recall due to saggy springs; walked into the local Toy dealer and asked for a set of the recalled springs.

As I recall they're 14" (observed) and somewhere around 200 lb (observed) rate. Pics of the setup begin here:
http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=31469662&photoID=38198884&security=CihxRH

Originally posted by okcrawler
14x2-1/2 coil-over springs.

200 lb/in front
175 lb/in rear

On sale here for $33.25 each.... Sale ends 9/30! :D
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/springs7.htm

Ok, Does that spring rate seem a little stiff??

I was thinking 175 Front 160 Rear

Originally posted by Bill4rest


I'm running the same coils as the shaffer kit. HAL 150lb from summit

Bill do you actually wheel that thing??:flipoff2:

Up front: Stock TJ front coils. dime a dozen and 150 lb. Seem to hold the 4.3 up oK. :D

OK........Did you make custom mounts for those springs? If not where did you get them??

I'm also running the summit HAL-14-150 coils on my current zuk and planning on running them on the new project zuk. They are $81.80 a pair to your doorstep. I am really happy with the 150lb rate, gives good flex and still has good handling characteristics.

Originally posted by sh996
I'm also running the summit HAL-14-150 coils on my current zuk and planning on running them on the new project zuk. They are $81.80 a pair to your doorstep. I am really happy with the 150lb rate, gives good flex and still has good handling characteristics.

What diamater are these springs?

i was thinking about using my stock 93 ranger 4x4 springs on the front,and yjs in the rear. by the way,, how are you liking your your new swamper STS? im in the same situation as you were with your dodge. after my boggers wear out i was thinking about giving the new swampers a try. but as you can tell in the pic,,,,15,000 miles and they still look good:eek:

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=50914317&photoID=50914448&security=QYfNSg

I have the tj springs in the front of my buggy haven't run them yet but they seem really flexy yet not to soft. A lot of my buddies with buggies are running the lift cherokee springs these are a lot stiffer. Good for toyota running gear based buggies or somewhat heavily tube buggies. I think the tj will be good for me.

Originally posted by RudeZuk


Bill do you actually wheel that thing??:flipoff2:

HEY!! you just ask what springs we are using!http://www.rx7club.com/forum/images/smilies/rant.gif:flipoff2:















































http://www.rx7club.com/forum/images/smilies/bootyshake.gif

coils are :rainbow:

Originally posted by okcrawler
14x2-1/2 coil-over springs.

200 lb/in front
175 lb/in rear

On sale here for $33.25 each.... Sale ends 9/30! :D
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/springs7.htm


Just for reference i ordered 150 for the rears and 175 for the fronts about 3 weeks ago. The fronts were in my mail box 2 days later!! the 150s are backordered though and still not here wich is no big deal im not ready but thought id let ya knwo your gonan be waiting for the 150's if you order them. Mihgt wanna call and see if they have them if your gonna be in a hurry


er i got the 13x5's sorry.. but still might wanna call if your gonan be in a hurry

starten all over again and Im going with year 2000 donated TJ fronts all the way around 17" tall 150# spring rate

pro-comp lifted XJ coils in the rear of my sami and they work great.

this is a great time to ask..... were are you guys finding coil plates ect??? If your making them what are ya clampin them springs on with,,, Seems everyone that sells springs realy doesnt sell and plates ta mount them on :confused: :confused:

couple ways round 1/4 disk welded to a pad for the axle with small u-bolts similar to spider trax or 1 large bottom plate and one smaller plate for the inside sandwiching the bottom spring
My rears will only be attached at the spring the tops will float
not sure if Ill do the front the same. Oh ya spider trax has them for 29.95 but Im just to damb cheap fact my wife says she thinks I sqweak every now and then:D

as much as I love spidertrax, DO NOt BUY THEIR COIL MOUNTING PlATES, Please!!! WHy you ask? I got mine for around a buck each, but if I told ya where I would have to kill ya:flipoff2:

























:flipoff2: , but since I'm such a nice guy.........I'll tell ya. I hope your all reading this post cause you're gonna love the place I'm gonna give ya the address to. I buy all of my tabs, gussets, plates, ect., ect. from them. Everyone else charges outrageous prices like 3-5$ for all their tabs, but these guys are FUCKINg cheap, way cheap!! GO here for all your fabrication needs WWW.aa-mfg.com have fun, and oh, you won't even need to tell the wife ya spent any $$ cause they are so damm dirty cheap;)

Originally posted by nuttzack
:flipoff2: , but since I'm such a nice guy.........I'll tell ya. I hope your all reading this post cause you're gonna love the place I'm gonna give ya the address to. I buy all of my tabs, gussets, plates, ect., ect. from them. Everyone else charges outrageous prices like 3-5$ for all their tabs, but these guys are FUCKINg cheap, way cheap!! GO here for all your fabrication needs WWW.aa-mfg.com have fun, and oh, you won't even need to tell the wife ya spent any $$ cause they are so damm dirty cheap;)

Yip I loooooove that place:D

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Yip I loooooove that place:D

yup been ordering there for years..... -yag

Originally posted by mikrosilakhan
this is a great time to ask..... were are you guys finding coil plates ect??? If your making them what are ya clampin them springs on with,,, Seems everyone that sells springs realy doesnt sell and plates ta mount them on :confused: :confused:

I used small u-bolts from these guys McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/). you can just about anything fastener-wise here. Here's a pic of my perches (http://community.webshots.com/photo/31469662/40976000fMjNgA) that I fabbed from channel and plate. You can see the hole-pairs for the u-bolts. In this picture (http://community.webshots.com/photo/31469662/40976071ztbDaG) you can see how the perches and u-bolts are working. The upper "cone" is hacked off of the front suspension from a Sidekick. The springs are not attached at top, only the bottom. 4Runner springs. Here's a pic of the top cone (http://community.webshots.com/photo/31469662/38709610mTxhhH).

HTH

Originally posted by nuttzack
coils are :rainbow:


agreed...


:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:

Originally posted by nuttzack
coils are :rainbow:

Someone's jealous... :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

RudeZuk - I tried the 175 front, kept banging the bump stops. However, I've got a 8K winch, 1.6 motor, 2 batteries, and an external cage and 75lb bumper. On a diet 175 might be fine.

I also ran 150 rears, they were fine around town, but once you put in the tool box, winch kit, and cooler they were too soft for the trail and had too much flex. 175 works much better...

Originally posted by 4x4man
i was thinking about using my stock 93 ranger 4x4 springs on the front,and yjs in the rear. by the way,, how are you liking your your new swamper STS? im in the same situation as you were with your dodge. after my boggers wear out i was thinking about giving the new swampers a try. but as you can tell in the pic,,,,15,000 miles and they still look good:eek:

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=50914317&photoID=50914448&security=QYfNSg

The STS's are awesome on road tires!!!! Hardly any noise, and they balance really well!

Originally posted by okcrawler


Someone's jealous... :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

RudeZuk - I tried the 175 front, kept banging the bump stops. However, I've got a 8K winch, 1.6 motor, 2 batteries, and an external cage and 75lb bumper. On a diet 175 might be fine.

I also ran 150 rears, they were fine around town, but once you put in the tool box, winch kit, and cooler they were too soft for the trail and had too much flex. 175 works much better...

Do you know how much you way??? Are you over 3k? Im hoping to be around the 2800 mark when im all done...

Rudzuk,

I believe the HAL-150's are 4" OD, but I'd have to actually go home and pull them off the truck to measure them to be sure, and I'm too lazy to do that, so I would ask Bill F. if he can walk out to his garage and measure his because we all know they aren't actually installed on his truck yet :flipoff2:

Sorry Bill, you know I luv ya man ;)

Originally posted by sh996
Rudzuk,

I believe the HAL-150's are 4" OD, but I'd have to actually go home and pull them off the truck to measure them to be sure, and I'm too lazy to do that, so I would ask Bill F. if he can walk out to his garage and measure his because we all know they aren't actually installed on his truck yet :flipoff2:

Sorry Bill, you know I luv ya man ;)

LOL that's what I just did they are 3 3/8" And If I had a D' Camera I'd show you my PHAT progress :flipoff2: I should have it all mocked/tacked tonight, but I won't fully weld till I get my rims and tires.....

































oh yea:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

You forget, Bill has his own welder dude working on his truck for him now, ya know, the short guy.

Originally posted by DemoMike
You forget, Bill has his own welder dude working on his truck for him now, ya know, the short guy.

Yea it's nice having him off track (out of school), but it's kinda a pain in the butt tring to work around his nap time......snack time......Cartoon break....yadda, yadda, yadda. it is a good thing he's not union:D

bill you should get him to do motor work know :p

I think Bill is going to stay on the computer while his kid goes and wheels it when he's done too:D

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Yea it's nice having him off track (out of school), but it's kinda a pain in the butt tring to work around his nap time......snack time......Cartoon break....yadda, yadda, yadda. it is a good thing he's not union:D

dam with all those breaks are you sure hes no union.........

Originally posted by RudeZuk
I think Bill is going to stay on the computer while his kid goes and wheels it when he's done too:D

I would not put it past him:flipoff2:

dam with all those breaks are you sure hes no union.........

yeap, me thinks I got it back..ward

bill i wish i was your kid :p

Originally posted by RudeZuk
Do you know how much you way??? Are you over 3k? Im hoping to be around the 2800 mark when im all done...

3320 lbs including myself (160) and a spare tire (~80)...
1780 front (54%)
1540 rear (46%)

Originally posted by nozuk
bill i wish i was your kid :p

Why? I'm poor,


















And the fact I go to the beach WAY too much:D

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Bill4rest
:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

He he he... Good eye Bill... :D

Originally posted by okcrawler


3320 lbs including myself (160) and a spare tire (~80)...
1780 front (54%)
1540 rear (46%)
Wow that thing is pretty heavy!!!!

I think maybe the 175/150 springs will do pretty good for me then!

Originally posted by RudeZuk


I think maybe the 175/150 springs will do pretty good for me then!



thats what ive heard from many guys and what i have coming

I'm running Xj 6.5 coils. They are rated at around 165lbs, I believe. I was told that may be too light, but I'm pretty sure that a Jeep I-6 outweighs my 4.3 a wee bit!;)

:D I weighed 2340# with 150# up front and 130# in the rear and it was awesome. I'll tell ya what makes a huge difference with these coil thingys though, and thats the shocks. I was using 5012's on setting number 2 and it was a little bouncy out of control in some situations, so I turned em up to 4 and 5 and it made a whole world of a difference. I don't think I woulda been happy with the set up if I didn't have stiff enough shocks.

Originally posted by nuttzack
:D I weighed 2340# with 150# up front and 130# in the rear and it was awesome. I'll tell ya what makes a huge difference with these coil thingys though, and thats the shocks. I was using 5012's on setting number 2 and it was a little bouncy out of control in some situations, so I turned em up to 4 and 5 and it made a whole world of a difference. I don't think I woulda been happy with the set up if I didn't have stiff enough shocks.

Since when are 5012's adjustable?:flipoff2:

He's just stating the number of dents you have to put in them to compress the gas more.:D

thats what i was thinking and twisted ur funny:p

What's up with the name, NOZUK? Got a Zuk or not?

Hes not sure yet.....................:cool:

nope don't have one yet but then agian i kinda do i always working on them i help my dad and dave and people at daves house:p

ooooops, I keep doing that shit.

Originally posted by twistedmetal
I'm running Xj 6.5 coils. They are rated at around 165lbs, I believe. I was told that may be too light, but I'm pretty sure that a Jeep I-6 outweighs my 4.3 a wee bit!;)

what radiator are you running? i still cant find one that fits,or that will cool my 4.3

My Zuk is a Sidekick. I'll be attempting to run the stock aluminum one for now. I know some tricks....

Originally posted by okcrawler
14x2-1/2 coil-over springs.

200 lb/in front
175 lb/in rear

On sale here for $33.25 each.... Sale ends 9/30! :D
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/springs7.htm

Just ordered some!!! Great customer service!!!

what rate did you wind up going with and tell us a little abo0ut what you have planned, please

The 14" springs everyone mentions and the ones we use in our coil kit are great for 33" tires.

If you want to go a bit taller, check out the Old Man Emu light duty springs for ZJ's. I'm doing these on my Sidekick. They're a spring rate of 150 lbs and about 17" tall. Great for fitting 35-36" tires!

The 14" springs everyone mentions and the ones we use in our coil kit are great for 33" tires

You are so anoying:flipoff2: Go get caught up on your orders or something

Originally posted by nuttzack
what rate did you wind up going with and tell us a little abo0ut what you have planned, please

175 for the front and 160 for the rear....Im shooting for the 2800 lbs range for my new toy:D

Full hydro, 4link front and rear, coils, 200+:1 and lots of tube!

Originally posted by Rocky Road
The 14" springs everyone mentions and the ones we use in our coil kit are great for 33" tires.

If you want to go a bit taller, check out the Old Man Emu light duty springs for ZJ's. I'm doing these on my Sidekick. They're a spring rate of 150 lbs and about 17" tall. Great for fitting 35-36" tires!


:rolleyes:

who cares