: Lazarus Jeep - Back from the dead


carwash
11-12-2009, 07:59 AM
Ok, im copying some of this from another forum, so the first few posts will have the timing off a bit. Not sure if this is hardcore enough for here, but sharing is good in case someone is looking for info etc.

By the way, Kirby is gay.

I could have swore i made a thread about this Jeep build already, but I have searched for an hour, and came up empty, so here goes.

Picked this rig up from Steve Waters, who got it from Shane I believe.... Was a true basket case when it rolled my way, needing a lot of love.

I was gonna build it for myself to have a streetable/trail jeep, but decided that i really didn't need that, so i sold it to my Mother in Law and her boyfriend Dave. Cool part is that i still get to build it, and that's what i really love, so all is good to go.

Some specs... came to me partially assembled, parts flying off, hanging off, engine on a stand, etc.... Came with a 350 (unknown condition) as well as a tpi350 with Siamese runner and aftermarket throttle body, etc... If you know Uncle Holley, you know the motor. Yes, that one. 60 front, 14 bolt rear, Hummer wheels, 2" spacers all around, tub, grill, tube fenders, some awful seats, and that's about it.

First order of business was compete tear down, and removal of all the stuff that was poorly done. Missed welds, outboarding not wide enough, poor anti wrap fab, etc.... Plans are reversed XJ rear springs, YJ fronts, new shackles, new outbarding blocks, front bumper to widen the outboard mounting area.... blah blah blah, paint it all, put it back together, etc... just another 1 ton jeep build i guess. How bout some pics....

How it came to me...
http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus001.jpg

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Tub takes a ride to get some love and paint from Dave

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Into the shop for tear down and rebuild...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/P1080046.jpg

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Some of the crap I am dealing with on this rig...

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carwash
11-12-2009, 08:00 AM
Out with the old, with some help from Max....

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Flipped to access the stuff to cut off easier...

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The axles... in need of some love as well..

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/P1080062.jpg

So, stay tuned, this ones should move pretty fast.

carwash
11-12-2009, 08:01 AM
Tonight's work sucked the balls, and not in the good kind of ball sucking way...

Cut the H1 runflat's off for Dave's wheels. I had some concerns leaving them in, as he is only running 40" tires. That doesn't put much space between that magnesium and the rubber when aired way down. I think a runflat is was cut my tire in Harlan, and I run 44's...

So, used my convertible bandsaw to cut the major part off, then took the 4.5 grinder to them to knock it down the rest of the way, then used a 4.5 flap wheel to take all the sharp edges off.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/runflat02.jpg

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So, contrary to popular belief, the magnesium does not burst into flames and explode when you cut it. It doesn't catch on fire with the inability to be extinguished, etc. So, just out of curiosity, I took some shavings and made a little pile, and took a lighter to it. Took a second to catch, but then it did burn pretty bright, but burned out rather quickly. I took a bigger chunk and tried to catch it on fire, no luck. So, not as dangerous as people once thought. I did save all the scrap huge chunks and a tin of powder and shavings from teh cutting and grinding. Next hot campfire, I'ma toss the shit in there, see if it will burn. Leads me to believe that they are made from some sort of magnesium alloy and not pure mag... will see if i can find out, just for reference...

This whole process for the 8 half runflats took me about 2 hours. Not too bad i guess. Not looking forward to it, but I have to do it all over again with my own rig in a few days.... ugh.

carwash
11-12-2009, 08:02 AM
Had school til 10 tonight, then hit the shop to knock out a couple hours.... Dave brought his hummer shells back, all beadblasted and ready to go. I welded the rock rings into the outer shells... now the fun part, reassembly.

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Started my frame repair tonight as well. The areas of swiss cheese will be sleeved with c-channel. I made the channel from rect stock. Found some in my piles and piles of stock that has the right ID to go over the existing OD. Cut the one end off, making a sweet C that will slide down over the frame, once i notch out the areas for the rock sliders and body mounts.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus022.jpg

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Once welded in place, should stiffen things up extremely, and make a nice solid area to mount the new custom crossmember to. got too late, and I didn't feel like cutting steel anymore... this is the first of about 6 i need to make...

carwash
11-12-2009, 08:03 AM
Frame sleeve cut and in place, awaiting some squirted metal. This will make a really nice surface to mount the crossmember to. I hate welding stuff to a jeep frame, just can't be trusted...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus026.jpg

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carwash
11-12-2009, 08:04 AM
Ok, all frame repair done. Beadblasted, and back to the shop for spring mounting and reassembly, etc.

Plated the corners with some triangles. The P.O. had plated the frame in the rear on the bottom and sides, but it was done with some sort of really wavy metal, so i wanted a nice strong flat surface to mount the shackle hangers to.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus029.jpg

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Put on the outriggers for the front, fitted and polished them into the 3x3 front block to make it one nice piece. Looks nice i think.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus035.jpg

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Did some plating on the top of the frame in the rear as well where the spring mounts will sit for the same reason. There was some really unlevel wavy metal here as well. Flat surfaces are much nicer for mounting crap to.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus039.jpg

Another shot of the tcase mounting area of the frame. This area was one of my biggest concerns due to the force that is put here.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus038.jpg

carwash
11-12-2009, 08:05 AM
Here's some shots of it all bead blasted and etch primed.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus041.jpg

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Obligatory action shot....

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus030.jpg

Wheels painted and mated up with the tires. No shots of tires on, got too damn late. I like the paint color. Drab olive and black. This will be the color scheme of the rig all over as well.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus032.jpg

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carwash
11-12-2009, 08:06 AM
Got the front end done as far as spring hangers and shackle mounts. Measure 100 times, weld once.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus047.jpg

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It's pretty sweet seeing the springs on it, even if it is upside down. I used the length of string method to know where to place the shackle mount. ie; measure the length of the spring as if it were flat. hold it at the bolt for the spring mount, lengthen if forward past where the spring stops in arched position. Take a look at how much string you have extra, and make sure that the length of the shackle you have can absorb that much length by the shackle swinging forward...

Here's some shots of the springs on... moving right along i guess.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus056.jpg

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Now on to the rear.

rajincajingt
11-12-2009, 09:49 AM
sweet!

geberhard
11-12-2009, 10:56 AM
Dang! You have been busy!

Brads_nky_yj
11-12-2009, 11:00 AM
Looks like shit! :flipoff2:

carwash
11-12-2009, 11:01 AM
Looks like shit! :flipoff2:
yer an assbag.

Brads_nky_yj
11-12-2009, 11:09 AM
fag. :laughing:

Looks good tho! Gotta love outboarding.

mudskipper4x4
11-12-2009, 06:10 PM
Looks good so far.

Also, when you add those runflat scraps to a hot fire, look out, they get real bright...:smokin:

carwash
11-12-2009, 06:51 PM
heard they smoke a lot as well...

Copperhead Fab
11-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Sweet rim stiffeners:smokin:


Here's some shots of it all bead blasted and etch primed.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus041.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus042.jpg

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Obligatory action shot....

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus030.jpg

Wheels painted and mated up with the tires. No shots of tires on, got too damn late. I like the paint color. Drab olive and black. This will be the color scheme of the rig all over as well.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus032.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus033.jpg

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carwash
11-12-2009, 07:11 PM
ha, thanks. forgot we got these form you actually, it's been a while since we picked them up. I did see someone recently offering the same crazy flame design... ripoff of yours or are you selling to them?

Copperhead Fab
11-12-2009, 07:17 PM
That is my design. I have sold to wholesale customers in the past that may still have some in stock. These are all made in house unless someone copied them :barf:


ha, thanks. forgot we got these form you actually, it's been a while since we picked them up. I did see someone recently offering the same crazy flame design... ripoff of yours or are you selling to them?

carwash
11-12-2009, 07:18 PM
I can't even recall who it was now... imma have to look back, gots me curious.

Copperhead Fab
11-12-2009, 07:21 PM
pm me the details


I can't even recall who it was now... imma have to look back, gots me curious.

carwash
11-14-2009, 09:54 PM
Moving right along, got a shit ton done today... it rolls again.

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Shackles built and everything assembled with Lawson grade12 bolts. 120,000 pound tensile strength or something freaking insane like that.

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Springs mounted, rig flipped and axles back under it... whooohoooo

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Now, next in line is to get tub painted, frame painted, set tub on frame, build motor mounts, build tcase mounts, reinstall cage, wired it, etc... you know just a few hours work.

Brads_nky_yj
11-15-2009, 03:12 PM
Looks good Mike! Its getting there!

Oh and Kirby IS gay :flipoff2:

carwash
03-06-2010, 04:14 AM
Did a couple more day's work on this, this week. Put tub on for measurements, then pulled it back to drop the drivetrain into it to build mounts...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus083.jpg

Used your standard horn/fabset mounts for the motor and tube between the horn and frame. They will be braced with plate vertically, and another tube horizontally, but not until I pull the motor back out.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus085.jpg

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Hiccup in the mix, one of the 1/2" holes on the 205 adapter was stripped, so drilled and tapped it for 9/16... that was a bitch.

With the way these cast adapters are notorious for breaking in aftermarket applications, I wanted to utilize the stock style mounts so that the thing could as much flex as needed as to not break the ears off. Cross your fingers, still trying to figure out a way to utilize a torque type auxiliary mount for it.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus090.jpg

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Utilized tubing, fabsets, and 1/4" plate to finish up the tcase mount. May still do some more bracing and more protection off of it, but the jury is still out, as this is a serious budget build. What i have now works, and i've already got a half day into it.

Had to make a cutout in one tube for the 205 to drop into. The pig tcase already hangs too low, so i wanted to tuck the xmember up as high as i could.

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Rolling this out today to insulate the shop. Not a ton left to do on it. Rear anti-wrap, finish motor mounts, tub install, hood/fenders/grill, radiator, wiring, paint, blah blah, blah... ok still quite a bit.

carwash
03-06-2010, 04:17 AM
Looks good Mike! Its getting there!

Oh and Kirby IS gay :flipoff2:
and yes... kirby is gay.

iroc86
03-06-2010, 06:57 AM
Looks like a cool project. Great work so far -- you've had your share of fixing the band-aids that were on that rig.

The TPI motor ought to have a bunch of low-end grunt. My IROC has the same setup (without the siamesed runners) and it's a torque monster.

Your method of mounting the NP205 with the rubber in the channel is ingenious. I still need to decide on a method for mine and figure out where the torque-absorbing mount is going to go.

carwash
03-09-2010, 08:31 PM
Braced and burned in the motor mounts today... they should hold. Mounting anti-wrap bar tomorrow, then it gets a little rest again.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/Lazarus/lazarus108.jpg

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JM1914Tn
03-10-2010, 09:43 AM
like the thread, nice welds , subscribed. keep it up!
:flipoff2:

carwash
03-10-2010, 04:35 PM
like the thread, nice welds , subscribed. keep it up!
:flipoff2:
Thanks!