: ptr 91 who has one ?


bigal1
11-24-2009, 11:07 PM
I have an chance to buy one from a local shop,1200 bucks, it's brand new.I have always wanted one .I shouldered the damn thing and fell in love,it fits perfect.Does anybody have any hands on experience with them ?...thanks.

buttrap
11-24-2009, 11:14 PM
What is a PTR-91? May be a silly question but I dont keep up on a lot of the new versions of standard designs. Have a pic?

bigal1
11-25-2009, 01:29 AM
It's a copy of a h&K G3 .308 rifle,very fine weapon and out of my budget.

buttrap
11-25-2009, 02:20 AM
Thats what I was wondering a HK-91. I would say what I think of the things but you would not like it.

bigal1
11-25-2009, 02:23 AM
ahhh,please do tell.1200 bucks is alot of money to me.

buttrap
11-25-2009, 02:27 AM
The cocking lever is up by the front site. They are a very non ergonomic rifle but the G-3 deal for full auto they are not too bad. Any FAL type is 10 times better but thats just a personal oponion of what I like shooting is all.

bigal1
11-25-2009, 02:31 AM
Thank's for the info.I could have bought an fal type rifle about three years ago at a dunham's sporting good's for 350.00.I kick myself now...:homer:

Rat~Man
11-25-2009, 03:07 AM
Original JLD or PTR91 inc manufacture? The JLD's have better fit and finish from what I've seen. Nice shooters once you get past the cocking lever being way the hell forward.

buttrap
11-25-2009, 03:14 AM
To me any FAL type is the most close thing you can find to a Browning BAR. The standard NATO 7.62 rifle not some german copy of a spanish army gun that would not exist if not for the total refusal of selling FALs to Germany over some thing over them invading, bombing and putting people in ovens where the FAL is made. Germany ended up with the HK like the bar closed and there is only that one fat gal there.

bigal1
11-25-2009, 03:21 AM
Man when I shoulder that gun the sight's come right up in line,it fit's me perfect and the fit and finish is top notch,im not sure about the manufacturer.That fawker is sweet.Yes the cocking lever is a little awkward but I could get use to it.

Aggro
11-25-2009, 04:13 AM
It's a gun, buy it.

Rat~Man
11-25-2009, 04:42 AM
I've shot both the JLD and the PTR91 inc versions. Both shot very well but the PTR91 inc had some shitty welds and overall looked like a homebuild gone bad. Motherfucker shot really nice though. Its hard to explain but the action while shooting was cleaner and crisper than the FAL's I've shot, the triggers were about the same except the reset on the JLD was cleaner. The JLD was also obedient. It put the brass more or less in a 24" circle. The FALs toss that shit everywhere and the PTR would throw every 3rd or 4th over my head. :laughing:

None of them have shit on my Maddi AK though. That thing throws brass from the roof of the shop (left side) to over the berm on the right side. We found about 300 wolf cases up there a few months ago. :laughing:

far...right
11-25-2009, 06:32 AM
To me any FAL type is the most close thing you can find to a Browning BAR. The standard NATO 7.62 rifle not some german copy of a spanish army gun that would not exist if not for the total refusal of selling FALs to Germany over some thing over them invading, bombing and putting people in ovens where the FAL is made. Germany ended up with the HK like the bar closed and there is only that one fat gal there.

What?

Engrish preese.

Hef
11-25-2009, 06:40 AM
What?

Engrish preese.


That's what I was thinking.

Hef
11-25-2009, 06:41 AM
I've shot both the JLD and the PTR91 inc versions. Both shot very well but the PTR91 inc had some shitty welds and overall looked like a homebuild gone bad. Motherfucker shot really nice though. Its hard to explain but the action while shooting was cleaner and crisper than the FAL's I've shot, the triggers were about the same except the reset on the JLD was cleaner. The JLD was also obedient. It put the brass more or less in a 24" circle. The FALs toss that shit everywhere and the PTR would throw every 3rd or 4th over my head. :laughing:

None of them have shit on my Maddi AK though. That thing throws brass from the roof of the shop (left side) to over the berm on the right side. We found about 300 wolf cases up there a few months ago. :laughing:

Delayed blowback roller-locking action is pretty soft on the recoil.

aloharover
11-25-2009, 07:22 AM
I have sold a number of the recent PTRs and they are not bad. Definitely more of a mass produced feel.

I prefer the FAL myself, but the HK-G3 is a damm fine rifle. Never had an issue with the HK, CETME, JLD, or PTR versions.

What is the specific model thats for sale? 1200 is a bit over priced. The basic 18 and 16" models are 1075. Version with the railed forearm runs 12-1250. Their "sniper" rifle is 1700

YellowIH
11-25-2009, 08:05 AM
I had one (JLD PTR 91) and it was a great rifle. Very accurate. I may try and get another down the road. I say buy it. A FAL is awesome too. I like a FAL better.

4runner
11-25-2009, 08:20 AM
offer $1K, then if they say no, walk out..wait a week before you go back...

Keith Armstrong
11-25-2009, 09:23 AM
Too pricey for me :) though the Cetme I got from Pete is just as much fun with a lower entry fee :smokin:

Sully
11-25-2009, 09:44 AM
I like 'em. For a combat rifle in 308, they are a cool gun, and do just what they are supposed to.

For a precision shooter, you can do better.

For the money, I'd probably invest in a more precision oriented gun. .308 is pretty fucking spendy to go blasting away at milk jugs with these days. I'd want to get the best bang for my buck. Otherwise, if the ammo were cheaper, I'd probably have one in the safe already.

Sully
11-25-2009, 09:45 AM
Too pricey for me :) though the Cetme I got from Pete is just as much fun with a lower entry fee :smokin:

Even the cetmes have gotten expensive.

I bought my cetme from J&G in Prescott about five years ago for 300 bucks. Sold it for $350 because it was a "cheap gun". Thought I made out on the deal. :rolleyes:

Kinda wish I'd hung onto it a little longer.

Vermin
11-25-2009, 09:56 AM
I love mine. It is one of the reasons I picked up my CMMG AR-10 lower - have so many mags floating around of the thing I figured I needed another gun that shot em.

animator
11-25-2009, 11:39 AM
To me any FAL type is the most close thing you can find to a Browning BAR. The standard NATO 7.62 rifle not some german copy of a spanish army gun that would not exist if not for the total refusal of selling FALs to Germany over some thing over them invading, bombing and putting people in ovens where the FAL is made. Germany ended up with the HK like the bar closed and there is only that one fat gal there.




Considering the CETME was designed by the same guys that did the HK-91, it's not exactly a "copy"...



But for the OP, I used a PTR-91 barrel for my HK91 clone build, and it's been outstanding so far, regarding accuracy. It's actually one of my favorite rifles to shoot.

BigGreenMonster
11-25-2009, 01:33 PM
i have one... never even taken it outside so i cannot tell you how it shoots. it feels real nice tho. maybe one day i can go use it. mine is 20" with a aluminum foregrip.

thedonn007
11-25-2009, 04:01 PM
I think that all of the "combat" 'MBR" .308's are expensive, and the ammo is expensive too. Saiga has a rifle in .308.

bigal1
11-25-2009, 06:32 PM
I have sold a number of the recent PTRs and they are not bad. Definitely more of a mass produced feel.

I prefer the FAL myself, but the HK-G3 is a damm fine rifle. Never had an issue with the HK, CETME, JLD, or PTR versions.

What is the specific model thats for sale? 1200 is a bit over priced. The basic 18 and 16" models are 1075. Version with the railed forearm runs 12-1250. Their "sniper" rifle is 1700

The fit and finish is grade a, and the gun has a rail on top of the receiver and three on the forearm.the rail on the receiver is tig welded and very masterfully done.

afroman006
11-26-2009, 08:31 PM
To me any FAL type is the most close thing you can find to a Browning BAR. The standard NATO 7.62 rifle not some german copy of a spanish army gun that would not exist if not for the total refusal of selling FALs to Germany over some thing over them invading, bombing and putting people in ovens where the FAL is made. Germany ended up with the HK like the bar closed and there is only that one fat gal there.

What?

Engrish preese.

Transration:

Germany adopted the G3 (based on the CETME) because FN refused to sell them FAL's, for obvious reasons. Thus, Germany adopting the G3 is similar to buttraper dragging home a fat chick because they are the last two people at the bar that night.

I'm looking forward to building my CETME soon. It will be more of a blaster though. :evil:

YellowIH
11-27-2009, 08:59 AM
To me any FAL type is the most close thing you can find to a Browning BAR. The standard NATO 7.62 rifle not some german copy of a spanish army gun that would not exist if not for the total refusal of selling FALs to Germany over some thing over them invading, bombing and putting people in ovens where the FAL is made. Germany ended up with the HK like the bar closed and there is only that one fat gal there.

Transration:

Germany adopted the G3 (based on the CETME) because FN refused to sell them FAL's, for obvious reasons. Thus, Germany adopting the G3 is similar to buttraper dragging home a fat chick because they are the last two people at the bar that night.

I'm looking forward to building my CETME soon. It will be more of a blaster though. :evil:

:laughing:


:lmao::lmao:

HahnsB2
11-27-2009, 08:54 PM
I've got a CETME, honestly I have more fun shooting my SKS.. I've always loved the the G3 design but shooting it doesn't do much for me, and yeah .308 is a little speny to just blast away with.. I've shot an FAL before and liked it better.

Frankenyota
11-28-2009, 02:04 PM
I just got through shooting a PTR-91 for the first time. I wasn't expecting too much of it, but I really did enjoy shooting it. The sights are great, and it shot some pretty nice groups. The ergos are weird, but it has the aluminum forend and it's pretty sweet. It's a lot softer shooting than my FAL is, and I'd love to have one if they weren't so expensive.