: History of the Hammers and Other JV Trails
DCuzzz 11-30-2009, 09:37 AM We at Extreme Wheelers 4 Christ would like to add some history to each of the Johnson Valley trails on our web site map. It would be great to give recognition to those that put all the hard work into exploring and braking the trails we use.
We would like to know: who was the first to break the trail, what group or club they were with, and the date it was first broke. Any interesting stories or information about breaking the trails would be cool as well. (i.e. broke on 33’s, used Fissure Mtn. trail to access top of sledge…)
Thanks for any help and I will update this post with the info as it becomes available.
The Hammers
Aftershock
Summer of 1994
Chuck Shaner
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Back Door
2003
Jon Nelson, Larry McRae
Bender Alley
Lower – 2003, Tin Benders
Upper – April 2008, Rick Mooneyham
Big Johnson
2001-2002
Jon Bundrant
Boulder Dash
Tim Florian, Matt Ruskow
Chocolate Thunder
2005
John James, Mike Hendrix
Named after Mike’s intestinal issue at the time
Claw Hammer
Chuck Shaner
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Dirty Luv
March 26, 2011
Mike Hendrix, Eric Anderson, Joe Lelah, Porch Puppy XJ
Tin Benders
Named after Chevy Luv at the start of the canyon
The Story - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=968228
Double Up
February 2009
Team HMF
The Story - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=935767
Elvis
11/07/09
Scott Porter, Don McDonald
KOH pre run with Jeff Knoll & Mark Matthews
Fissure Mountain Trail
Chuck Shaner
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
FOH – Full of Hate
2005?
Jason Berger
First unassisted - Tom Wayes
Broke mostly at night
FOL – Full of Love
Matt Ruskow
Gatekeeper
2001 or 2002?
Julio Monroy, Kelly Lee, Tom Boyd, Tom Haus, Randy Stockberger, Don McDonald, Larry McRae
Highway 19, 20
2004 or 2005?
Larry McRae,Walker Evans, Kelly Lee, Jon Nelson
Named after Walker's number, 20
Highway 21
John Reynolds, Scott Ellinger
Jackhammer
October 1994
Chuck Shaner, Mike Wickham
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Martel
November 2009
Wayne Isrealson
Misery Mile
Brandon "Misery"?
Nightmare
2007?
Grocery Getter Gang?
Named because the 3 or 4 trips to camp for parts lasted into the night.
Outer Limits
Chuck Shaner
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Resolution
Chris Ridgway, Randy Slawson, Eric “Nerple”
Short Bus
December 2006
Jeff Degnan, Keith Ratzburg, Kris Revallier
Sledgehammer - from the plaque
April 1997
Chuck Shaner
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
SOS - Stickies on Sixties
April 24, 2009
Rick Mooneyham, Total Karnage Crew
Spooners Canyon
12/30/08 - 1/1/09
Pete Griffith, Chris Pepin
First unassisted - Dave Cole, Joe Lelah
The Story - http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59033
Sunbonnet Pass Trail – from the plaque
September 1996
Chuck Shaner, Mike Wickham
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Turkey Claw
11/22/07
Bobby & Tina Long, Odie ?, Corey Young, Larry Gipson, Billy ?
The name coming from breaking the trail on Thanksgiving
Wrecking Ball
Chuck Shaner
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Soggy Lake Area
Crowbar
04/23/05 Lower, 10/24/09 Upper
Mark Matthews, Spinnin’ Fours
12/10/06 First unassisted and named Ballerina Rock - Shane (Whitebrowithafro)
The Story - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419216&highlight=crowbar
Riffel Canyon
2006
Brian ?, The Men in Black (M.I.B.)
Trail named after and a tribute to Steve E. Riffel, 5/17/57 - 7/2/05
The Story - http://www.runandplaymotorsports.com/Riffel%20Canyon%20Build.htm
Shaft Canyon
12/02/05 Upper, 11/24/06 Lower
Mark Matthews, Spinnin’ Fours
The Story - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419216&highlight=crowbar
Cougar Buttes Area
BoulderBash
2008
Mike Koher
Bullfrog
2008
Mike Koher
Named after a Bullfrog rock formation
Cakewalk
2009
Mike Koher
Named as a derogatory name
Do or Die
Late 2009
Mike Koher
Hammerdown
Sept. 2006 – is when we first ran it and called it ‘Hole in the Wall’
Extreme Wheelers 4 Christ (EW4C)
Josh's Notch
34° 29.526'N - 116° 49.299'W
Started in Sept. 2006, completed May 2009
Extreme Wheelers 4 Christ (EW4C)
Josh walked back to camp and said he needed help changing a flat tire, 2 winch's and a Hi-Lift later he was out of the notch and we were able to change the flat.
Rock-Wear 11-30-2009, 10:02 AM I broke FOL- dont remember date
I also broke Boulderdash with Tim Florian -dont remember date
Misery here on the board was the first to fully complete Misery Mile- dont remember the date
_peteyg 11-30-2009, 10:19 AM Spooners Canyon
Spooners Canyon was broken by Pete Griffith (me) and Chris Pepin on 12/30/08. We're not with any group or club, exactly. People call us the Break Bros.:homer:
Here's the story: http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59033
JeepRecoveryTeam 11-30-2009, 10:22 AM Contact Chuck Shaner of Victor Valley 4 Wheelers about the traditional trails.
I had the pleasure of having Chuck as my codawg 4 years ago leading Outer Limits. He had stories of just about every rock.
Amazing day.
Spooners
I'll dig up the names of the two guys that thought they were on OL and got half way through. They called it Spooners because that's what they had to do to keep warm. Survey Boy, Hendrix and a few other Benders pulled them off on New Years morning 2009.
The first guys to run it all the way through were myself and Joe Lelah. We came back a couple weeks later. But how can you top a name and story like Spooners.
Great trail
But how can you top a name and a story like that.
Edit, refer to the post above for the two that broke everything possible on their Jeeps
samota87 11-30-2009, 10:50 AM I thought turkey claw was done by the longfield clan?
Air Ride 11-30-2009, 11:28 AM Bender Alley-was first run in 2003 by the Tin Benders. At that time we were only able to drive the lower portion. The upper portion of the trail had a waterfall that was completely impassible. After many years of working on the fall it was finally driven by Easy Rick last year (I believe).
Chocolate Thunder-was scouted by myself in 2005 while I was riding my quad. John James was the first to make it to the top. The name came from an intestinal issue I was suffering from at the time.
JeepRecoveryTeam 11-30-2009, 11:51 AM I'll delete all the rest of my random posts and consolidate here.
The Hammers
Aftershock
VV4W
Back Door
Bender Alley
Tin Benders - Upper Fall by Rick Mooneyham
Big Johnson
Jon Bundrant
Boulder Dash
Tim Florian and Rockware Matt
Chocolate Thunder
Mike Hendrix and John James
Claw Hammer
VV4W
Elvis
11/07/09
Scott Porter, Don McDonald
KOH pre run with Jeff Knoll & Mark Mathews
Fissure Mountain Trail
VV4W
FOH – Full of Hate
Tom Wayes and crew
FOL – Full of Love
Rockware Matt
Gatekeeper
IE4W
Highway 18
Never heard of it. 20 was broken by Walker Evans. 19 (lower part of same canyon) was broken later. 21 (upper part past the bailout) was broken by JR and Scott Ellinger.
Highway 19
Highway 20
Walker Evans
Jackhammer - from the plaque
May 1997
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Misery Mile
Nightmare
Outer Limits
VV4W
Resolution
Chris Ridgway, Randy Slawson, Eric "Nerple"
Short Bus
Sledgehammer - from the plaque
April 1997
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
SOS
Spooners Canyon
Pete Griffith and Chris Pepin found it and spent the most time there:flipoff2:
Dave Cole and Joe Lelah first to drive it
Sunbonnet Pass Trail – from the plaque
September 1996
Victor Valley Four Wheelers
Turkey Claw
Bobby Long and crew
Wrecking Ball
VV4W
Soggy Lake Area
Crowbar -
01/02/09 Lower, 10/24/09 Upper
Spinnin’ Fours
Riffel Canyon
2006
The Men in Black (M.I.B.)
Shaft Canyon
11/24/09
Spinnin’ Fours
Cougar Buttes Area
Bullfrog
Cakewalk
Hammerdown
Sept. 2006 – When we first ran it and called it ‘Hole in the Wall’
Extreme Wheelers 4 Christ (EW4C)
briansc33 11-30-2009, 12:57 PM I think SOS (sticky's on sixties?) was broken by EZ Rick and the Total Karnage crew at this years TB Jambo. I'm sure someone will chime in to confirm/deny that.
assman 11-30-2009, 01:44 PM FOH-Jason Berger(Scherer's co-pilot) claims finding it while taking a dump. Ill let him chime in on the whole story.
biglar 11-30-2009, 04:33 PM Highway 19 and Highway 20 were broke the same day. We originally called them Upper and Lower Highway 20. 20 was Walker's number. There were 4 rigs and a lot of bodies. I was the first one up, then Walker, Kelly Lee and Jon Nelson. I think it was in 04 or 05.
Gate Keeper was found by Laura Monroy and broke by Julio Monroy, Kelly Lee, Tom Boyd, Tom Haus, Randy Stockberger, Don McDonald and myself. Probably in 01 or 02.
Rocksurfer 11-30-2009, 06:49 PM Crowbar and Shaft were originally scouted and mapped by Mark Matthews of the Spinnin' Fours so I'd give him most of the credit for breaking these. Yes we did assist him in making them into trails but these are his babies we were just his day labor workers. So I'd say it was Mark Matthews and the Spinnin' Fours that did them. He really deserves most of the credit for keeping us on track and moving forward with them.
Rock-Wear 12-01-2009, 06:12 PM Could you please change Rockware Matt to Matt Ruskow?
Rockware Matt is a different person and different company! Just a funny coincidence.
Edit: Misery Mile was first driven by Brandon, who goes by Misery on PBB
Rocksurfer 12-01-2009, 07:44 PM I went and checked out your trail maps of the area, they are really cool. I did notice that you show Riffel Canyon as a dead end but we took it all the way across to about 2/3's up on Crowbar. At that point you can either go up or down Crowbar. Just don't forget that if you go down you have to go down Ballerina Rock.
Eezee 12-01-2009, 07:58 PM Concerning the Victor Valley trails, Chuck Shaner is the only member to work on every single trail and every single work party. Sledgehammer and Fissure Mtn were first, then Aftershock which was completed in the summer of 1994. that's when I joined the club and we started Jackhammer October 1994.
Our purpose was to expand our annual event Fun In the Desert by adding a trail or two each year. Keep in mind, we had to build each trail so our customers had at least a chance of making the trail without much damage and of course almost everyone had 33s or 35s.
By 1995 our work parties had gotten much smaller with 3 to 5 guys about all that would show up and October 95 we started Sun Bonnet. We built Sun Bonnet itself first and later added Hell"s Gate and the slide. About the same time, I purchased a topo map of the Hartwell Hills and Chuck and I hiked all the possible canyons, cherry picking the best ones that would give us the most trail for the least work. Some of the canyons would have required a lot of work to get a Jeep on 33s and we never built them but since then others have run them and named them. After Sun Bonnet, we built four more, about then it was the year 2001, my kids were young teens and we started traveling baseball every weekend. Kids first. I'd like to add more later on the last four.
By the way, Chuck and I will be going out this Saturday Dec. 5th to repair Jackhammer's ridge. If you want to help fix the ridge, we'll be at the bottom around 8:30AM.
DCuzzz 12-01-2009, 08:37 PM Thanks everyone for the info, keep it coming.
I will make corrections and additions as time permits. I would like to get as many of the names as possible in the groups that broke the trails and pin down the dates as close as possible as well.
After reading Pete Griffith’s great write-up on Spooners I’m now in search for more original trail breaking write-ups. I think it would also be cool to get pictures of the original trail breakings.
I went and checked out your trail maps of the area, they are really cool. I did notice that you show Riffel Canyon as a dead end but we took it all the way across to about 2/3's up on Crowbar. At that point you can either go up or down Crowbar. Just don't forget that if you go down you have to go down Ballerina Rock.
Last weekend we went and did Riffel for the first time, what a cool trail, it will be a classic. I did map it all the way out and beings it was dark by the time we got to Crowbar we headed down. What a blast, can’t wait to do it again.
Thanks again everyone and post some trail breaking pictures if you have them,
Doug
Air Ride 12-01-2009, 09:09 PM Upper Bender Alley work day.
YouTube - Bender Alley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgoeiMESUaY)
Corey Young 12-01-2009, 11:07 PM Here is a picture of Turkey Claw trail, Thanksgiving 2007. Billy is on the left driving the crew cab, he broke a rear CV shaft. I am the bald guy in the middle of the picture, Tina Long is in the red hat, Larry Gipson is next to her, Odie is in the Toyota truggy, and Bobby Long is next to him. There were some vehicles that went half way up the canyon, but Odie and Bobby were the first ones to go all the way up that day.
jethrodeg 12-02-2009, 01:42 PM Short Bus
December 2006
Jeff Degnan, Keith Ratzburg, Kris Revallier
http://fourdice4x4.com/photos/albums/jvdec06/IMG_0446.jpg
Eezee 12-02-2009, 01:48 PM Shortbus? Where's it at?
jethrodeg 12-02-2009, 02:03 PM Shortbus? Where's it at?
It is a wash or two before the entrance to Backdoor. It is a very short trail which is why we named it that. It does have great potential to continue it but an exit becomes an issue.
http://fourdice4x4.com/photos/albums/jvdec06/IMG_0435.sized.jpg
http://fourdice4x4.com/photos/albums/jvdec06/IMG_0463.jpg
JeepRecoveryTeam 12-02-2009, 02:25 PM I think ShortBus might be the same trail we call Front Door.
There are two canyons on the mountain near camp to the left of Backdoor.
One has a two huge waterfalls. I've made it up the first and half way up the second.
The other has big holes and loose rock. I think JR and Scott Ellinger have made it the furthest.
Dave
Gunmetalcruz 12-02-2009, 02:26 PM FOH
JB was the first to look at it while going to take a dump. We came back with a collaberation of the FOH crew and the BTG guys. If you could put Team FOH, that should cover it.:D TW
Jeff Knoll 12-02-2009, 04:27 PM I am interested in the Cougar buttes trail you call Hole in Rock. Greg Jevne, Roy Dew and myself busted a trail over there back in what must be 2002. We called it Holy Rock due to the hole in the rock at the entrance to the trail. I am betting this is the same one. We never made it go all the way through. Next time we are together I am interested to see if its the same trail. It was pretty easy but fun. At the time there was a lot of green in that canyon. It was uncommon for the area.
Jeff Knoll 12-02-2009, 04:30 PM Wayne Isrealson Put the Name "Martel" on that trail we pulled the car out of a couple weeks ago.
I have scouted a half dozen more, but riding them on my bike don't count. I need a car.:D
catfish<>< 12-02-2009, 05:59 PM the hole in the wall(hammerdown) at the buttes is prolly the same one, it was a single track back in th 90's, we used it in our motorcycle trials events
bob
ew4c
DCuzzz 12-02-2009, 09:23 PM ‘Eezee’ lets hear more about the Victor Valley trails from you and maybe you could send Chuck over this way as well.
And… Now everyone wants to know the date that Jason Berger took this infamous ‘dump’ on FOH.
And… Where’s EZ? Did he really break SOS?
And… Short Bus = Front Door??? I need dates…
And… Is "Martel" really a trail or an obstacle?
And the big question… Who was the first one up Back Door???
b2dude 12-02-2009, 09:42 PM Here is a picture of Turkey Claw trail, Thanksgiving 2007. Billy is on the left driving the crew cab, he broke a rear CV shaft. I am the bald guy in the middle of the picture, Tina Long is in the red hat, Larry Gipson is next to her, Odie is in the Toyota truggy, and Bobby Long is next to him. There were some vehicles that went half way up the canyon, but Odie and Bobby were the first ones to go all the way up that day.
billy drove the trail on turkey day (hence the name) and we invited the washington crew to come with that night over turkey dinner. the next day they followed us out there, billy drove up the trail and broke a cv up where it flattens out, gorman (blue formula toy) had steering issues blocking the trail near the beginning, while waiting for the trail to clear the washington crew walked up the trail with bars moving big ass rocks so bobby wouldn't scratch his new rig and complained that we weren't helping:barf: the washing crew did end up going further that day, and wanted to name it chicken wing.
i'm glad to see that the name turkey claw stuck, billy tried it in 05 on his rigs maiden voyage and broke a stock hummer cv at the very bottom.
here's a pic of our group at the bottom of the trail 11-22-07
samota87 12-02-2009, 10:16 PM billy drove the trail on turkey day (hence the name) and we invited the washington crew to come with that night over turkey dinner. the next day they followed us out there, billy drove up the trail and broke a cv up where it flattens out, gorman (blue formula toy) had steering issues blocking the trail near the beginning, while waiting for the trail to clear the washington crew walked up the trail with bars moving big ass rocks so bobby wouldn't scratch his new rig and complained that we weren't helping:barf: the washing crew did end up going further that day, and wanted to name it chicken wing.
i'm glad to see that the name turkey claw stuck, billy tried it in 05 on his rigs maiden voyage and broke a stock hummer cv at the very bottom.
here's a pic of our group at the bottom of the trail 11-22-07
Wow.......Alittle butt hurt are ya...:shaking:
Dustpark 12-03-2009, 06:02 AM These are the workings of Mike Koher.
Here are some detail:
Bullfrog was built in 2008 and named after a Bullfrog rock formation.
BoulderBash was layed out in 2008. Granite Outcrop north of the cougar buttes.
Cakewalk was built in 2009, a derogitory name.
Do or Die built in late 2009.
Hammerdown was popularized in 2009.
The map
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=40aabe22-b51d-4ad7-a7b9-8c06f25e7e2a
b2dude 12-03-2009, 06:12 AM Wow.......Alittle butt hurt are ya...:shaking:
call it what you want, but don't clutter the thread. i was just giving the op what they wanted. go to the "canyon west of the lakebed" thread if you want to continue the drama.
biglar 12-03-2009, 08:55 AM And the big question… Who was the first one up Back Door???
I can go back as far as '03. It looked untouched, but it's hard to tell on a rock slab. Anyone remember going up before that?
TurtleTruck 12-03-2009, 09:39 AM Thanks Cuz for a great thread and awesome idea! :D
I am working on fixing the broken image links on the PBB thread you link to above, with the story of breaking Crowbar and Shaft. The first 2 posts are fixed. I will get to the rest as soon as I can.
Thanks again! :smokin:
jbcruiser 12-03-2009, 11:46 AM I found FOH about 15 years ago. I am a "private pooper" :shaking: and walked up the canyon while running Claw...anyhow, back then my bronco was on 35's and I knew it wasn't doable. Came back about 10 years later and opened it up. I was the first one up it, I think Wayes got every line (I was a pussy on one waterfall) and Wayes came up with the name. It wasn't opened up by Team FOH...only because I dont think I have ever been on the team. BUT, I will say Wayes and I almost took each other to the dirt to see who was going to get to be the first one to run it.:D Classic moment of 2 A-type personalities. OH and BTW...most of it was opened at night.
So, I get the credit for finding it and first to run it and Wayes gets the credit to be the first to pull every line and naming it. FOH "playground" is also Wayes's idea. (at the end of the trail there is a section of a bunch of rocks with a ton of fun lines).
I haven't been on it in awhile...I hear it is kind of gay with a bunch of bypasses :shaking:. Maybe I will be on it on February 12th :flipoff2:
jp junkie 12-03-2009, 12:55 PM I can go back as far as '03. It looked untouched, but it's hard to tell on a rock slab. Anyone remember going up before that?
That's right. Not even a tire spin mark.:smokin: Unless the first driver was super smooth. The slab was super clean. But still, maybe not the first ones.:beer:
jp junkie 12-03-2009, 01:05 PM Common Mike. You and Chuck are the Daddys of the area. I remember you looking at topo maps all the time. Also it seems you were there every weekend, even sometimes by yourself swinging a sledge at 103 degree temps. You guys were the best group ever, Gabe (RIP), Fuzzy (RIP), Earl (RIP), etc... Learned most of our hard core 4 wheelin moves from you guys. :)
Julio
Concerning the Victor Valley trails, Chuck Shaner is the only member to work on every single trail and every single work party. Sledgehammer and Fissure Mtn were first, then Aftershock which was completed in the summer of 1994. that's when I joined the club and we started Jackhammer October 1994.
Our purpose was to expand our annual event Fun In the Desert by adding a trail or two each year. Keep in mind, we had to build each trail so our customers had at least a chance of making the trail without much damage and of course almost everyone had 33s or 35s.
By 1995 our work parties had gotten much smaller with 3 to 5 guys about all that would show up and October 95 we started Sun Bonnet. We built Sun Bonnet itself first and later added Hell"s Gate and the slide. About the same time, I purchased a topo map of the Hartwell Hills and Chuck and I hiked all the possible canyons, cherry picking the best ones that would give us the most trail for the least work. Some of the canyons would have required a lot of work to get a Jeep on 33s and we never built them but since then others have run them and named them. After Sun Bonnet, we built four more, about then it was the year 2001, my kids were young teens and we started traveling baseball every weekend. Kids first. I'd like to add more later on the last four.
By the way, Chuck and I will be going out this Saturday Dec. 5th to repair Jackhammer's ridge. If you want to help fix the ridge, we'll be at the bottom around 8:30AM.
sacalas 12-03-2009, 03:03 PM I think SOS (sticky's on sixties?) was broken by EZ Rick and the Total Karnage crew at this years TB Jambo. I'm sure someone will chime in to confirm/deny that.
I know that 3 of us continued to run up after Turkey Claw the day after KOH 09. Everyone else pussed out and parked and watched us keep climbing looking for the next cool obstacle. Eventually 2 of us broke and had to turn around and headed back for another day. I later was told that some one called it SOS and that one of the 3 with his brother when about 200ft farther and broke. I'm not claming anything since I did not get to the end or make a loop but wanted to add to the story. I know for a fact we broke new ground after KOH as there was zero evidence of previous travelers. It was a blast and I can't wait to go back again to finish it.
biglar 12-03-2009, 03:27 PM You guys were the best group ever, Gabe (RIP), Fuzzy (RIP), Earl (RIP), etc... Learned most of our hard core 4 wheelin moves from you guys. :)
Julio
Looks like building trails is a dangerous occupation.
jp junkie 12-03-2009, 03:48 PM Looks like building trails is a dangerous occupation.
Nah. Just a bunch of retired guys enjoying their "golden" years.:usa:
SOS stands for "sixties on stickies"
samota87 12-03-2009, 07:23 PM call it what you want, but don't clutter the thread. i was just giving the op what they wanted. go to the "canyon west of the lakebed" thread if you want to continue the drama.
No drama..... just stating the truth.Carry on.:shaking:
b2dude 12-04-2009, 05:40 PM No drama..... just stating the truth.Carry on.:shaking:
the truth? no, you just want to get the last word you d-bag. what you stated was your opinion. i stated the truth...if you want to read some more about my opinion about what happened, you can search for the "canyon west of the lakebed" thread. carry on
Jeff Knoll 12-04-2009, 06:20 PM "Martel would be all the way over the top, Not much of a hard core trail(pretty damn easy) But for the sake of applying a name with a place, Wayne gets the credit on name he was first in a car. That area has potential, so We'll be headed back there. Goatman had stars in his eyes.:D
biglar 12-15-2009, 10:19 AM I think Jon Nelson was actually the first in the group to make Back Door.
Easy Rick 12-19-2009, 08:20 PM I think SOS (sticky's on sixties?) was broken by EZ Rick and the Total Karnage crew at this years TB Jambo. I'm sure someone will chime in to confirm/deny that.
This is correct. Stickies on Sixties was found by Scott Ward and I. We tried to run it before KOH and I broke at the gate keeper. We then talked the Total Karnage boys into running it with us at the Bender Jambo. It took 12 hours, to get us through. But we made it.
Rick.
cw91yj 12-22-2009, 07:59 AM Wanted to make couple of points. First. Wanted to give Mike Koher props for marking Bullfrog, and Cakewalk. Great trails to play on. We have spot just off bullfrog that is a real seat grabber. U might want to try it out.
Wanted to say Hammerdown trail. I spotted the potenial for that trail way back when Cal Roc's, and Pro Roc's were running events way back when. So two year back are group (Westcoast Crawlers)went into the canyon. At that time. The Rocks looked pretty clean. In 08 the trail started showing signs of Jeeps or Rockbuggys coming thru. This year looks like this trails on the map. Not long trail but has it moments. Fun to Run...
CW
DCuzzz 11-30-2010, 11:38 AM TTT
Added Double Up.
Anyone more info on new trails and old would be great.
Thanks,
DC
OlMan 11-30-2010, 06:43 PM Note that "Eezee" is Mike Wickham.
Hammer Hog 11-30-2010, 08:03 PM Josh's Notch-
Started in Sept. 2006, completed May 2009, EW4C, Cougar Buttes:
34° 29.526'N
116° 49.299'W
DCuzzz 12-01-2010, 07:55 PM Updated first post, Thanks...
randii 01-26-2011, 06:06 PM I don't make it down to JV very often, and it is usually in a Subaru when I do to ride-along, camp, or cover... but i gotta say this is a most impressive thread, with a minimum of B.S., a maximum of information, and a modicum of respect both for the folks who have come before, as well as the folks who have come after... It sure is great to see such a wide-ranging group of 'wheelers working together like this.
:cool2: Great work! :cool2:
Randii
biglar 01-27-2011, 09:38 AM i don't make it down to jv very often, and it is usually in a subaru when i do to ride-along, camp, or cover... But i gotta say this is a most impressive thread, with a minimum of b.s., a maximum of information, and a modicum of respect both for the folks who have come before, as well as the folks who have come after... It sure is great to see such a wide-ranging group of 'wheelers working together like this.
:cool2: Great work! :cool2:
Randii
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redhead 01-27-2011, 11:02 AM For Big Johnson...I would give the year 2001-2002. Here are a couple of pictures the first time Jon Bundrant showed the trail to us, and this is January 2002
lttlbddy 01-27-2011, 02:22 PM The Desert Dawgs have been working on new trails in the Fry Mtns. So far:
Bobcat Canyon (2004?)
Stone Canyon (2004?)
Ball Buster (2004?)
U-Joint Canyon (2006?)
Stairway #1 & #2 (2008?)
New Canyon (no name yet) (2010?)
The completed trails will be run with the 40th Annual High Desert Roundup over Memorial Day Weekend 2011. Main Camp will be at Anderson Dry Lake.
tacoabuse 01-27-2011, 05:58 PM What? No drunk trail? I think Jon B. and Larry discovered that one. Might not be exactly the Hammers but damn close.
http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/toyotaabuse/th_l_ea6a93e11491fa5ee48b1fb3d549c141.jpg (http://s955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/toyotaabuse/?action=view¤t=l_ea6a93e11491fa5ee48b1fb3d549c141.jpg)
biglar 01-27-2011, 06:49 PM What? No drunk trail? I think Jon B. and Larry discovered that one. Might not be exactly the Hammers but damn close.
http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/toyotaabuse/th_l_ea6a93e11491fa5ee48b1fb3d549c141.jpg (http://s955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/toyotaabuse/?action=view¤t=l_ea6a93e11491fa5ee48b1fb3d549c141.jpg)
Shiissssh. That trail is our little secret...:grinpimp::D
tacoabuse 01-27-2011, 07:02 PM Oops. Good thing julio is blocking the view of the beginning. No one will find it.
biglar 01-27-2011, 07:20 PM Oops. Good thing julio is blocking the view of the beginning. No one will find it.
Luckily he’s um… husky, or to put it a little more PC, he’s a man of somewhat generous proportion. Otherwise everyone would know where we were at.:grinpimp:
DCuzzz 01-27-2011, 08:45 PM The Desert Dawgs have been working on new trails in the Fry Mtns. So far:
Bobcat Canyon (2004?)
Stone Canyon (2004?)
Ball Buster (2004?)
U-Joint Canyon (2006?)
Stairway #1 & #2 (2008?)
New Canyon (no name yet) (2010?)
The completed trails will be run with the 40th Annual High Desert Roundup over Memorial Day Weekend 2011. Main Camp will be at Anderson Dry Lake.
What? No drunk trail? I think Jon B. and Larry discovered that one. Might not be exactly the Hammers but damn close.
http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/toyotaabuse/th_l_ea6a93e11491fa5ee48b1fb3d549c141.jpg (http://s955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/toyotaabuse/?action=view¤t=l_ea6a93e11491fa5ee48b1fb3d549c141.jpg)
Lttlbddy and tacoabuse it has come to our attention claims of new trails in Johnson Valley. Please PM me the directions and GPS coordinates to these trails so that we can go out and verify there existence ASAP. It is not our intention to mislead anyone here on pirate so your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Doug
(And who would have thought there was any alternative motive to starting this thread:D)
tacoabuse 01-27-2011, 09:11 PM Ahhh. I don't know any of that. I was blindfolded when I was taken there, they only let me out to take pictures.
lttlbddy 01-27-2011, 10:38 PM Lttlbddy and tacoabuse it has come to our attention claims of new trails in Johnson Valley. Please PM me the directions and GPS coordinates to these trails so that we can go out and verify there existence ASAP. It is not our intention to mislead anyone here on pirate so your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Doug
(And who would have thought there was any alternative motive to starting this thread:D)
Sign up for the High Desert Roundup and all the trails will be on display.
DCuzzz 10-29-2011, 11:33 AM Anybody have anything new to throw at this thread?
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