Old Scout
09-28-2002, 08:47 PM
On July 25 I ordered a Window ECU from Nathan. He keep telling me it would be in soon .................................................. ...........................and weeks and weeks go by. No word from old boat buggy and I'm kind of getting tired of no working windows. A few more e-mails and now I'm told there is none available anywhere! So for the 10 weeks I have had no working windows and I'm told it could be 2004 before the parts mess is over? Any of you lads across the pond think you could find one for me?:goofball::D
Have you guys seen this on the British Pacific site?
The Jungle Drums...
Genuine Parts Shortage
http://www.britishpacific.com/deal_picture/genuinebox.JPG
Ever since BMW bailed out, Land Rover UK Parts Division has been in trouble. First it was personnel problems, then sourcing issues rose as a result. Now Ford has their hands in it and 'it's a right mess' as our British friends would say. (Actually they are using expletives most alarmingly, not at all the classic understatement we're used to...)
First Ford has changed the format that parts info comes on. They have discontinued all paper parts manuals: it's now all on a coded CD, and local dealers are finding it hard to use to say the least. We have actually had dealers calling us to help the with part number identification!
Then, Ford discontinued Land Rover parts sales to wholesalers in the UK: this will result in an immediate price increase on all Genuine parts supplied by independents to the tune of 20%. Regardless of the parts supplier you prefer, Genuine prices are going up.
Now, the shortages are such a mess that Ford has shut down the Unipart operation completely and is moving all parts, lock stock and barrel, to a UK Caterpillar warehouse. Land Rover North America did this with the BMW change, but now the main source of supply is moving. LR parts has been completely shut down since September 15, and operations are not expected to resume before October 1 (maybe longer if things don't go well...).
What does this mean to you? No matter what model you have, the parts pipeline has been turned off, and it will take months for stocks to recover. Your two year old Disco II may not be able to get something as basic as a fan belt from your dealership. And the parts we do have are going up in price.
What does it mean to BP? We are supplying dealers with OEM replacement parts as fast as we can, and our suppliers in the UK are working hard to source even more directly from the original manufacturers. We will do our best to keep prices down and stock the bits you need to keep your truck running. But there will be times we can't get the piece you need (because no one else can either).
One last point for older model owners. Series parts are being discontinued at a rapid rate. As stocks deplete, they will not be rerun unless there is 'sufficient volume' in them. LRNA is reportedly considering discontinuing all Range Rover Classic parts as well. That means vehicles all the way to '95 may not be supported by the dealers. Don't be fooled: despite what you might have heard, there is no law requiring them to stock parts for vehicles less than ten years old. If Ford doesn't want to deal with Rover based parts, they don't have to.
So, it might be very difficult to keep even your new Land Rover operating. To us, it sounds exactly like British Leyland in 1977: the more things change...
Have you guys seen this on the British Pacific site?
The Jungle Drums...
Genuine Parts Shortage
http://www.britishpacific.com/deal_picture/genuinebox.JPG
Ever since BMW bailed out, Land Rover UK Parts Division has been in trouble. First it was personnel problems, then sourcing issues rose as a result. Now Ford has their hands in it and 'it's a right mess' as our British friends would say. (Actually they are using expletives most alarmingly, not at all the classic understatement we're used to...)
First Ford has changed the format that parts info comes on. They have discontinued all paper parts manuals: it's now all on a coded CD, and local dealers are finding it hard to use to say the least. We have actually had dealers calling us to help the with part number identification!
Then, Ford discontinued Land Rover parts sales to wholesalers in the UK: this will result in an immediate price increase on all Genuine parts supplied by independents to the tune of 20%. Regardless of the parts supplier you prefer, Genuine prices are going up.
Now, the shortages are such a mess that Ford has shut down the Unipart operation completely and is moving all parts, lock stock and barrel, to a UK Caterpillar warehouse. Land Rover North America did this with the BMW change, but now the main source of supply is moving. LR parts has been completely shut down since September 15, and operations are not expected to resume before October 1 (maybe longer if things don't go well...).
What does this mean to you? No matter what model you have, the parts pipeline has been turned off, and it will take months for stocks to recover. Your two year old Disco II may not be able to get something as basic as a fan belt from your dealership. And the parts we do have are going up in price.
What does it mean to BP? We are supplying dealers with OEM replacement parts as fast as we can, and our suppliers in the UK are working hard to source even more directly from the original manufacturers. We will do our best to keep prices down and stock the bits you need to keep your truck running. But there will be times we can't get the piece you need (because no one else can either).
One last point for older model owners. Series parts are being discontinued at a rapid rate. As stocks deplete, they will not be rerun unless there is 'sufficient volume' in them. LRNA is reportedly considering discontinuing all Range Rover Classic parts as well. That means vehicles all the way to '95 may not be supported by the dealers. Don't be fooled: despite what you might have heard, there is no law requiring them to stock parts for vehicles less than ten years old. If Ford doesn't want to deal with Rover based parts, they don't have to.
So, it might be very difficult to keep even your new Land Rover operating. To us, it sounds exactly like British Leyland in 1977: the more things change...