this is the bomb :nuke:

http://atlas.binderbulletin.org/classifieds/photo/p9778n1.jpg

woOOOo! Ghetto fab at its finest baby!

I sure hope that's sarcasm in your typing Chief.:D

Originally posted by Buddha's Ghost
I sure hope that's sarcasm in your typing Chief.:D

:cramervoice: guidyup :cramervoice:

I'd love to go wheeling with that Scout in the group and leave him/her as soon as it broke in half!

I have seen ghetto but I think this takes it!! And I thought the 2"x1" thin walled tubing bolted to the knuckle was butch....

Originally posted by mike
woOOOo! Ghetto fab at its finest baby!

NO scout guys are famous for this kind of crap! what do you think of this?

Uhh.. Old Scout? Actually what I think, is that I see a little red X! :flipoff2:

EDIT: Dammit.. you fixed it too fast! :flipoff2:

Horrifying fab work aside... If I had the opportunity to go back in time, and assasinate one person, for the betterment of mankind, I'd take a quick trip to the early '80's and shoot whatever numbnuts started the "trend" of painting your undercarriage and suspension bright colors to look cool! :barf:

That must be Second Mouse's brother, Stupid Mouse :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Old Scout


NO scout guys are famous for this kind of crap! what do you think of this?

I have nightmares about things like that :eek: it's just so damned easy to do it right, whats the deal? ;)

I sure hope that isn't on the road when I go through Id. later this week.

Originally posted by Old Scout


NO scout guys are famous for this kind of crap! what do you think of this?

Does that dip downward before it angles upward counter-balance out some of the bump steer? :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by TORC


Does that dip downward before it angles upward counter-balance out some of the bump steer? :flipoff2: :D :flipoff2: No, actually that shows how much stress my draglink has been put under without breaking. So I'm poor and I drive a Scout. So I made that draglink when I REALLY didn't know anything and couldn't find anybody who did. So I made the braces come out too far from the center and they hit the saggy spring pack on the passenger side and bent the hell out of the draglink. So I can't afford the 160 bucks to buy a new one. So that draglink has been bent like that for the last year or so. So it was welded by a professional welder of 15 years. So if you want to donate the bender to make one out of tubing you are more than welcome to. So until then, I'll keep worrying about it and trying to come up with a way to make a better one. So if you don't have anything constructive to say, kiss my ass.

Regardless of who/how/why it was built the angle on the tie rod end is pretty serious - it looks like it could sheer of around the next turn and then what....

At least it isn't cut and welded like the original pic in this thread...

Oh yeah, and another thing, when I built the thing, I was at work, far away from the Scout. I had no way of test fitting the thing, and, being only 19 at the time and having no previous experience with this stuff, I didn't notice the problem of the springs and brace hitting until it was too late.

Originally posted by uglyscout
At least it isn't cut and welded like the original pic in this thread... It is cut and welded. There is a slightly diagonal piece in the middle (7" as I recall), with two braces. One starting at the top middle sloping down and left (the one in the picture), the other starting at the bottom middle sloping up and right. The reason I used the round bar braces is because, at the time, I worked for a company that builds oil rigs. If any of you have ever seen an oil rig you know that all of the structural pipe joints are triangulated, not gusseted. So, I worked off of that model, and, though I won't build it the same way again, if the drivers side brace hadn't interfered with the springs, I am quite confident that I wouldn't have had a problem with it, and yall wouldn't have the above picture to bash me with. As far as the ends go, they are 28 years old, and received serious abuse when the link was bent. As a result, they are pretty worn out. It's actually quite ironic that I should read this thread tonight, because I was under the scout earlier tonight taking some measurements and wondering who I knew who could bend up a piece of tubing, how long it should be, how to secure the ends (I remember now, jam nut). I've also been contemplating going into the steering knuckle from the top or flipping the end and coming up from the bottom. If I keep the ends in their current configuration, it looks like I need about 8" of drop. This number will probably increase when I install some newer XLC springs in the front (I did the back springs recently and the back is now an inch or 2 higher than the front). I was wondering if anybody has a SOA with stock springs and a z-link and knows how much drop their drag link has.

Originally posted by Ben Segrest
No, actually that shows how much stress my draglink has been put under without breaking. So I'm poor and I drive a Scout. So I made that draglink when I REALLY didn't know anything and couldn't find anybody who did. So I made the braces come out too far from the center and they hit the saggy spring pack on the passenger side and bent the hell out of the draglink. So I can't afford the 160 bucks to buy a new one. So that draglink has been bent like that for the last year or so. So it was welded by a professional welder of 15 years. So if you want to donate the bender to make one out of tubing you are more than welcome to. So until then, I'll keep worrying about it and trying to come up with a way to make a better one. So if you don't have anything constructive to say, kiss my ass.
Touchy touchy... damn, grow some skin DAN!!! If you can't take a little razzin', then you're definately in the wrong place!!!:shaking:

Originally posted by TORC

Touchy touchy... damn, grow some skin DAN!!! If you can't take a little razzin', then you're definately in the wrong place!!!:shaking: So, if I had "skin", I would show that by not making a rebuttal? You asked a stupid question, and I gave a stupid answer. However, while your stupid post had no content, I, at least, presented a few facts and circumstances that contributed to the failure of my drag link project within my stupid post. So, if you really feel that I have thin skin and/or can't handle the "pressure" of this board, then by all means, drive me out. Otherwise, kiss my ass.

Originally posted by Ben Segrest
yall wouldn't have the above picture to bash me with.

No one was bashing you! You stepped in to the light and admitted it was your FUBAR fab work!


Originally posted by Ben Segrest


I was under the scout earlier tonight taking some measurements and wondering who I knew who could bend up a piece of tubing, how long it should be, how to secure the ends (I remember now, jam nut). I've also been contemplating going into the steering knuckle from the top or flipping the end and coming up from the bottom. If I keep the ends in their current configuration, it looks like I need about 8" of drop.

Have you learned anything???:rolleyes: Z links are just wrong!


Originally posted by Ben Segrest

I was wondering if anybody has a SOA with stock springs and a z-link and knows how much drop their drag link has.


Don't ask Z link questions here, it makes your case worse.

Here is your ride back to the binder bulletin DAN http://www.AzChatfield.net/Comebacks/WHAAmbulance.jpg

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Where do find this stuff OS? You're killin' me over here!!!

Originally posted by Ben Segrest
So, if I had "skin", I would show that by not making a rebuttal? You asked a stupid question, and I gave a stupid answer. However, while your stupid post had no content, I, at least, presented a few facts and circumstances that contributed to the failure of my drag link project within my stupid post. So, if you really feel that I have thin skin and/or can't handle the "pressure" of this board, then by all means, drive me out. Otherwise, kiss my ass. :crybaby2: Is that axle cut & turned?

Ahhhh, you guys make me all warm and fuzzy :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Mike Elrod
:crybaby2: Is that axle cut & turned? No, I kept the axle at the same angle it was at stock. I haven't run into any problems with binding, but 1. I live in louisiana, 2. I have the 258, so my front driveshaft is longer, and 3. it's currently on saggy springs. Honestly, I couldn't cut and turn when I did the spring over. The Scout is my only vehicle, and at the time, I was working about 10 hours a day and had a 40 mile per day commute. Now, I don't have a job, but since I don't work for the construction company anymore, I don't have the means to cut and turn the axle or the money to have it done. The plan was always to swap out the 30 for a 44 and when I did that I was/am going to cut and turn and maybe go high steer. There is actually a 44 sitting under a scout in my yard, but I don't have rights to it, nor can I buy it even though it's for sale. Anyway, I'll soon be swapping in xlc springs with more arch, and a 304, so I may suddenly have a problem with the front shaft binding. So, to answer the question, no.

Originally posted by Ben Segrest
Oh yeah, and another thing, when I built the thing, I was at work, far away from the Scout. I had no way of test fitting the thing, and, being only 19 at the time and having no previous experience with this stuff, I didn't notice the problem of the springs and brace hitting until it was too late.

Well based on the tires I would say this is not a dedicated trail rig :rolleyes:

So get the Fawk off the road, you wanna experiment and fab shit up for the steering without actually looking at the vehicle, fine but don't make the roads your test ground, better to be laughed at on the trail when it lets go then to see it let go right into the minivan in the next lane. Being 19 and broke is no excuse, you found the $$ and knowledge to go SOA, find a little more and do it right :shaking:

Which Scout is you'rs Ben.
I'm guessing the one in the second picture?

Please don't say they are both yours....

I think you guys are overreacting. They both retained their "swaybars" for on road safety and control:p

Travis

Originally posted by Neps
Which Scout is you'rs Ben.
I'm guessing the one in the second picture?

Please don't say they are both yours.... No, they arent' both mine, just the second one is.

Originally posted by Old Scout
No one was bashing you! You stepped in to the light and admitted it was your FUBAR fab work!
By "bashing" my work, you were "bashing" me. I really don't mind that you were, if you'll remember where you got that pic from in the first place, you'd remember that I posted as an example of what not to do.


Originally posted by Old Scout
Don't ask Z link questions here, it makes your case worse.So you are saying that there is noone here running a Z-link? Or, are you just saying that you don't respect anyone who is running one?

Originally posted by troutbum


Well based on the tires I would say this is not a dedicated trail rig :rolleyes:

So get the Fawk off the road, you wanna experiment and fab shit up for the steering without actually looking at the vehicle, fine but don't make the roads your test ground, better to be laughed at on the trail when it lets go then to see it let go right into the minivan in the next lane. Being 19 and broke is no excuse, you found the $$ and knowledge to go SOA, find a little more and do it right :shaking: You are all saying that my draglink is crap because it bent. The fact that it is bent has nothing to do with any stress exerted on it by the road, trail, or tires. It's bent because there was mechanical interference between the springs and the link. Why then, are all of you saying that my draglink is weak? It's been in the exact same shape for well over a year. must be real weak if it's not been bent in all that time since it (repeatedly) hit the springs to form it into that shape. It's not like I turned the wheel to the right and ended up with that bend. It took a number of weeks worth of driving for it to deform like that. One of those tubing draglinks would indeed have lived a short life had it developed a bow in it like that. However, my draglink is made of 5/8" round bar. Furthermore, I've expressed the desire to fabricate something more sturdy, and was immediately bashed for that idea. So, noone want's to help, or offer advice, yet you all say that my work is crap and I should do better. I suppose I'll go back to The Binder Bulletin now; this place is apparently not meant for tech, just bashing dumb ass newbies.

Originally posted by Ben Segrest
By "bashing" my work, you were "bashing" me. I really don't mind that you were, if you'll remember where you got that pic from in the first place, you'd remember that I posted as an example of what not to do.
:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
Do you ever stop whinning?

Originally posted by Ben Segrest

So you are saying that there is noone here running a Z-link? Or, are you just saying that you don't respect anyone who is running one?

The Z link died a quick death in the Jeep crowd. The incomprehensible life of the Z link is alive and well in the IH community because of ultra cheap scout owners and certain scout owners with "celebrity" status still running them. The hardcore scout owner has learned there is a better way.

Originally posted by Old Scout

:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
Do you ever stop whinning?



The Z link died a quick death in the Jeep crowd. The incomprehensible life of the Z link is alive and well in the IH community because of ultra cheap scout owners and certain scout owners with "celebrity" status still running them. The hardcore scout owner has learned there is a better way.


LOL. That must be me!!! ;) ZZzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!

But since I bent my Z-Link..... hitting it on a rock, I am going to have to do something else, someday.

Maybe I will just paint it a cool color. That should fix it....

Hmmm, chop, chop, chop, chop, chop...

Someday I will be hardcore....

I wanna be like OS,
I wanna be like OS,
I wanna be like OS

Ha! :D :D :D

Originally posted by Hooper



LOL. That must be me!!! ;) ZZzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!

D

Don't humor yourself. Your cheap bastard hack:flipoff2:

I like this. Now I can keep track of what is what...

Originally posted by Old Scout


Don't humor yourself. Your cheap bastard hack:flipoff2:


<chuckle> Busted Again!!!

WTF, guys i do NOT appreciate yall bashing my scout!!!! DO you KNOW how many hours have gone into that paint scheme, i have well over $400 dollars in paint on that Beast!! You don't know me and know how hard i have worked on that Beast! So lay off! I just DON'T appreciate all this!! If you saw me on the trail, and saw that it will go anywhere b/c of my bada$$ paint job you would be like "DAMN" thats a Beast!!

hahahahaha psyyyyyyyyche!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by snoop dogg
WTF, guys i do NOT appreciate yall bashing my scout!!!! DO you KNOW how many hours have gone into that paint scheme, i have well over $400 dollars in paint on that Beast!! You don't know me and know how hard i have worked on that Beast! So lay off! I just DON'T appreciate all this!! If you saw me on the trail, and saw that it will go anywhere b/c of my bada$$ paint job you would be like "DAMN" thats a Beast!!

hahahahaha psyyyyyyyyche!:flipoff2:

:shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:

shame on me:rolleyes:

LLamas about!
O/S
I can't wait to see all of your l33t shit on the trails this spring.

:)

BTW who is the tard making that 45deg fang S/R bracket?
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84884

hmmm...

LOL.
:flipoff2:

Ben, just do a high steer. lots of info on how to do it over on BB.org. ;)

Originally posted by Hooper
I like this. Now I can keep track of what is what...
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My eyes! My eyes! You've blinded me!

r@m

Originally posted by Hooper
I like this. Now I can keep track of what is what...

is that a scott lackey (beartrack)replacement color codeing system.. lol

Originally posted by Ben Segrest

So you are saying that there is noone here running a Z-link? Or, are you just saying that you don't respect anyone who is running one?

There is nothing wrong with running a Z link if it is done properly. Most prefer to run high crossover drag link to eliminate some bump steer and get stuff up high out of the way.
I think everyone is bashing your craftsmanship/ engineering.
Engineering wise(and I'm no engineer) it looks strong enough if the welds were done properly. Little clearance issue though.
Craftsmanship wise man that is one god awefull looking thing. Have to give you credit for trying but chalk it up to a lesson learned and throw that thing into the junk pile. Everyone makes trial and error mistakes but most people hide them in a timely manner.:)

OK, I'll shut up now.

Originally posted by Hooper



LOL. That must be me!!! ;) ZZzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!

But since I bent my Z-Link..... hitting it on a rock, I am going to have to do something else, someday.

Maybe I will just paint it a cool color. That should fix it....



Ha! :D :D :D

Come aawn Hooper, I saw you down as Napa asking about a chrome Z-link......:flipoff2: