I have been lurking in the shadows here for a while, finally decided to post a little bit of my build...

it is prolly not pirate worthy yet, it is my first 4x4 (i am used to driving corvettes :flipoff2:) So it will be more of a solid base to upgrade when i break things

basics(nothing fancy)
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1967 scout 800
dana 44's
345 + T-19 wide + dana 20
35x12.5x15 BFG km2

(a little interesting)
dual 1 link suspension with panhard bar's

when i got it
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs178.snc1/6694_545979221545_44404746_32186899_3306943_n.jpg
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs198.snc1/6694_545979625735_44404746_32186933_686149_n.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs228.snc1/7527_551199170725_44404746_32388770_2911215_n.jpg
how it sits today...
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs106.snc3/15360_557317918705_44404746_32595449_2314719_n.jpg

...flame on:flipoff2:

Looking good..............Are you going to use coils or coil overs?...........It will be interesting to see how your suspension turns out.
















Oh yeah,:flipoff2:

Give us a rundown of what you plan to build from here then we'll either flame or help depending.:laughing::D

I liked the looks with the 2" bronco coils(still deciding on brands), coilovers would be ideal but im gonna have to go for the cheap option for now. I also saw one with 4" in the front and 2" in the rear, not sure which way I am going to go(that engine does weigh alot). I havn't started looking at shocks yet.

the 1 link will be 2" square tube going to the top and bottom of the axle then trussed between them, with a skidplate to keep my driveshafts nice and safe, I got a pair of the SU joints from one of the vendors here (2 5/8" trailer ball in a 4" housing, rated at 400,000 ft/lbs)

redo/repaint the body fix the typical rust spots, try to get it as stock looking as i can, I really like the silver and purple full body scout that is around here from time to time. Not gonna bob the rear yet, but prolly trim a little fender.

Once I get the suspension built up a little more i will decide all these things, I can only work on it on the weekends cause it is at my parents place until i get a house of my own :( (which i hope to do before this first time home buyer credit is over)

rollcage, winch normal stuff then take it out to the trails and see what it can do

not my primary build page, i have one running over on binderplanet cause this isnt the most extreme thing. but here are a few updates(I only get work done on the weekends so it is a really slow build)

chevy flattop dana 44 front, ford 9" rear
skyjacker 2" and 4" lift coils
ballistic fab adjustable coil spring upper mounts
ballistic fab coil spring/shock lower mounts
getting high steer arms soon

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs322.ash1/28283_575199438995_44404746_33164683_5020400_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs322.ash1/28283_575199448975_44404746_33164684_773018_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs312.snc3/28283_575199478915_44404746_33164688_6649936_n.jpg

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I'm no expert, but I have done front and rear links...

It sure looks like your rear axle mounts are backwards.:mad3:

Are you planning on separate axle mounts (facing forward)?

EDIT, it looks like the front mounts are backwards too.

short answer yes they are

still deciding on how to mount the shocks(straight or angled toward the inside of the frame. the rear the shock mounts would be under the crossmember so we might put other link mounts in, but then again I would only have to build i extra mount if i turn them around. The front might get turned around the "correct" way we are still deciding on where to put them, the front isnt even tacked on yet. (I forgot why we had the front backward but im sure i will remember eventually)

:homer: doh!

(i am used to driving corvettes :flipoff2:) ...flame on:flipoff2:

Corvette owner/drivers are gold chain wearing, bald headed, arrogant pricks that think they can drive!

Also why is it taking so long? Your not building a piano!

truck is at my parents place so I only get to work on it the weekends i go back there, and this is the first time i am trying a link setup so i am running into alot of issues. i changed axles from scout II 44's to a Chevy and 9" had to find new stuff that i wanted that want crazy expensive. almost have all the parts i will be needing, still need to machine and tap the passenger knuckle. and do something about the shocks.

but those are just a bunch of excuses guess im just not as good as you :flipoff2:

but those are just a bunch of excuses guess im just not as good as you :flipoff2:

Well, us Corvette drivers are good! :smokin: Stick to modding the Vette. It is cheaper.

nevermind cheaper, its alot of catalog order bolt in parts not near as much thinking involved, even my engine transmission swap in the vette was pretty straight forward carb to TPI.
I am having fun with this though even though it is taking a long time. maybe you will get another interesting update in a month or more :D

It looks like your tires will contact your upper coil mounts on articulation. Unless your not running much back spacing.

It looks like your tires will contact your upper coil mounts on articulation. Unless your not running much back spacing.

that is one of the things i am worried about, I will take a pic with the tire on and see what you guys think. that is also the reason i changed axles, the new ones are 6" wider than the scout 44's i was planning on running.

he is another update from slow as molasses in a blizzard build...

what are your thoughts on the panhard bar?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs483.ash2/75677_595560784695_44404746_33668623_7278718_n.jpg

I'm no expert, but the panhard, I believe, needs to be as long and as flat as possible at ride height.

That is, um, a very interesting suspension design you have going on there. I'm interested in seeing more on the frame side joint.

I'm interested in seeing more on the frame side joint.
not sure which joint, on the panhard its a ruffstuff heim, the one link joint is the SU joint i found here
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=793117&highlight=su+joint

the goal is a front and rear one link with panhard bars, not the craziest thing in the world but yes it is different.

the frame is not at ride height, not sure how much the springs will compress :confused:. I think i will be trying to shave the lower driver coil mount and put it on the opposite side of the link mount. any other blatantly dumb things you can see? the panhard is just pvc for a mock-up right now in case you were wondering.

thought i already had this up, my main build thread is on binder planet
this will be covered with a skidplate
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs823.snc4/68367_589086129955_44404746_33543648_444726_n.jpg

Your not really leaving the I beam hanging down there are you?

he is another update from slow as molasses in a blizzard build...

what are your thoughts on the panhard bar?

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs483.ash2/75677_595560784695_44404746_33668623_7278718_n.jpg

Panhard looks very short. Do you like rear steer? :laughing:

What are you using for joints at the axle? Bolts straight through tube is not going to work for long.

your panhard is backwards

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs823.snc4/68367_589086129955_44404746_33543648_444726_n.jpg

FUCKING GENIUS!...........ok, maybe not

FUCKING GENIUS!...........ok, maybe not

It will be if he can get the rear driveshaft to occupy the same space...

your panhard is backwards

Does it really matter that much on the rear?

Does it really matter that much on the rear?

everything i was reading said rear didn't matter, is that wrong? front need to be at the same angle as the steering.

That I beam is more-less a mock up position, it is going to turn into a belly pan with that mounting position for the su joint.

also is there a good way to estimate spring compression, right now there is no weight on the axle/springs and it is not at ride height, so i am not sure how much more the frame will come down to level the panhard.

Measure the spring rate and measure how much weight you have on it now. then estimate how much weight you'll add with the tub and multiply it by your spring rate too see how much more it will settle.

Measure the spring rate and measure how much weight you have on it now. then estimate how much weight you'll add with the tub and multiply it by your spring rate too see how much more it will settle.

that is what i was afraid of, not sure if I have a good way to measure the weight of it right now. guess i can google around for approx. weights/estimate a few things. Thanks

that is what i was afraid of, not sure if I have a good way to measure the weight of it right now. guess i can google around for approx. weights/estimate a few things. Thanks

Somewhere between 4,800 and 5,300 lbs I'd guess

everything i was reading said rear didn't matter, is that wrong? front need to be at the same angle as the steering.


The way that you have the panhard mounted now does now allow for any resistance to engine torque. It may not matter as much for a traditional 3-link but with your single mounting point for the rear (Not a fan of that either...but whatever...) you may see more roll than you would if you mounted the panhard the other direction.