so i pulled mine apart this weekend, both axle berrings were shot.. couldnt get any #s off them, forgot to take them to work with me, but i would like to get new berrings ad seals.

am i corect that it shuld be the same wheel berrings as a hd 44? ie: set 10's?

i belive its out of a 72 travellall?

unforunetly the only bca book i have at work is the 80-98 book , some one walked off with the early one..

any one got any tips? the parts guy i keep geting on the phone is clueless.. (doesnt understand semi vs. full floating)

These the same as a scout. I have set of shafts from a SF IH 60 if you need them.

Originally posted by Old Scout
These the same as a scout. I have set of shafts from a SF IH 60 if you need them.

Fawk, I could always use another set, just delays going to 35 spline. :D

did the scouts come with sf 60's? i belive mine are about 60" wms to wms.

id love to have a spare set of shafts since i know they are kinda obscure.. what you want for them?

OK, are the D60 semi-floats shafts the same as the D44 semi-floats shafts?!?!? (narrow t-all/pu)


I hope they are... if no one has a directo comparison... measure up a D60 shaft and I'll measure up a D44 shaft and we can compare.... or I could just roll over to Brian's one of these days.... if he ever invites me over for :beer:....

Originally posted by T1H5_TA3
did the scouts come with sf 60's? i belive mine are about 60" wms to wms.

id love to have a spare set of shafts since i know they are kinda obscure.. what you want for them?

Nope (well you never know for sure with IH) the 60-2 to be exact was a hybred deign used on 3/4 ton (I think) T-all's, used a Dana 60 30 spline center section with Dana 44 outer desing, set 10 bearings, etc. Dana 44 brake parts will bolt up directly.

Width is 63.5 WMS to WMS and the shafts are longer then the Scout 44

Joe

Originally posted by jdjanda
.....the 60-2 to be exact was a hybred deign used on 3/4 ton (I think) T-all's, used a Dana .....

actually, most I have seen under 1/2 tons (hence the 5-lug). I think is was their "heavy 1/2" option, or maybe the towing option...


who knows with IH :p

Originally posted by RustoleumWhite
OK, are the D60 semi-floats shafts the same as the D44 semi-floats shafts?!?!? (narrow t-all/pu)


I hope they are... if no one has a directo comparison... measure up a D60 shaft and I'll measure up a D44 shaft and we can compare.... or I could just roll over to Brian's one of these days.... if he ever invites me over for :beer:....

hell no invitation needed.. just show up theres allways beer.. usualy a keg, tons of hard a.. oh, and 15 acres of trails.. lol
send me a pm for directions or for a phone #

local guys are allways welcome..

Originally posted by jdjanda


Nope (well you never know for sure with IH) the 60-2 to be exact was a hybred deign used on 3/4 ton (I think) T-all's, used a Dana 60 30 spline center section with Dana 44 outer desing, set 10 bearings, etc. Dana 44 brake parts will bolt up directly.

Width is 63.5 WMS to WMS and the shafts are longer then the Scout 44

Joe

ok, thats what i thought.. tonight if i remember ill try to scratch down the bill of matirials # and look it up.. but every thing in it had a mid july '72 date on it.. so .. ?who knows i dont think it was quite that wide but it might...

Originally posted by T1H5_TA3

id love to have a spare set of shafts since i know they are kinda obscure.. what you want for them?

Same $ as pic and pull without the pull. 25.00 ea.

cool.. i forgot to mesure mine last night.. ill verify them before i actualy send ya $.. prob know tomorow...

ill be picking up my complete ps. setup tonight.. for $30! pump, brackets, hozes, box, pitman arm etc!

just wanted to rub in a good deal.. lol

I'm not sure about earlier ones, but specifically I bet you'll find a 60-2 under every 1/2T fullsize in 1975.

Thus, ever "150" model.

IH rated the D44 as 3500lbs, the D60-2 as 3700lbs.

The D60 FF is a 5000lbs axle.

I think you can find the 60-2 under earlier heavy-half or "tow-package" type 1/2Ts.

I doubt the 'shafts are the same.

The D60 center is about 1" wider than a d44 center.

Assuming they didn't change the axle width WMS to WMS, that means each D44 axle shaft is 1/2" longer than the "correct" D60 axle shaft.

Now, maybe you can chop the last 1/2" off and it'll work.. or maybe not.

Originally posted by tsm1mt
I'm not sure about earlier ones, but specifically I bet you'll find a 60-2 under every 1/2T fullsize in 1975.Thus, ever "150" model.IH rated the D44 as 3500lbs, the D60-2 as 3700lbs.
The D60 FF is a 5000lbs axle.I think you can find the 60-2 under earlier heavy-half or "tow-package" type 1/2Ts.
I doubt the 'shafts are the same.
The D60 center is about 1" wider than a d44 center.
Assuming they didn't change the axle width WMS to WMS, that means each D44 axle shaft is 1/2" longer than the "correct" D60 axle shaft.Now, maybe you can chop the last 1/2" off and it'll work.. or maybe not.

Were did we say that a D44 and a D60-2 had the same shafts? :confused:

The same set bearing YES but never the same shaft. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Old Scout


Were did we say that a D44 and a D60-2 had the same shafts? :confused:

The same set bearing YES but never the same shaft. :flipoff2:


actually I was asking if the shats were the same... and they *may* be. I just measured on of my t-all/pu D44's at ~61.5"... and Brian remember his being about 62.5"..... ~ 1" more :D


I'll have to cruise up to his place with one of the D44 shafts and compare.....

Rusto...

I will be dropping off your shit that I borrowed from you...some time this weekend...when I get back from canada aaaaa!

have a beer and bleed some brakes..aaaaa?

The shafts are different lengths. I have a few of each and have compared. The 60-2 shafts are about 1.5" longer.

Originally posted by jdjanda
The shafts are different lengths. I have a few of each and have compared. The 60-2 shafts are about 1.5" longer.

Interesting.. since I would expect the 60-2 shafts to be *shorter*.

Unless there's some truth to the rumor that Travelall rear axles are narrower than the pickup rear ends.. and your 60-2 is from a pickup, and the 44s you have are from a Travelall.

Who knows.. LOL

Maybe I should measure the 44 from the '74 100 4x4 and compare it with the '44 under my '72 Travelall.

Then again, it could also be a 69-73 vs 74-75 thing.. sheesh.

Somehow I think people are comparing Scout axles to Pickup/Travelall axles and that is why we are getting numbers that just don't match with what should be...
I got a headache trying to read this thread...

OK, *I* have 4 NON SCOUT II D44's kicking around. at least ONE I know is from a from a '71-ish t-all, and ONE is from a '69, 1/2T, short bed PU (with service body of all things).


The pu one is still under the frame, but I can probably get a measurement this weekend.

One of the t-all rears is in the shop right now, and the shafts are out, so I can throw a tape on them. The whole axle came in att ~61.5"... so it is NOT a scout II unit.....


I'll measure from wheel flange (hook tape over flange) to end of shaft (spline area). Not an "exact" measurement of length, but repeatable between others and good for comparing. I'll try to do that tonight, someone do it to a D60-2 shaft, I'll also do it to a Scout II shaft for comparison sake.

ok.. i still havent crawled undr to get the bom#, but my shaft is 31" from wms to tip of the splines..