So Saturday morning we were hunting a wheat field and having a really good hunt. As it usually goes, while we were picking up singles and doubles kept coming in. One group of four lock on an started coming in. First we saw a light colored goose and thought speck or snow, then we heard it and thought speck. As they came in my buddy shot it. The goose he shot is like nothing any of us has ever seen before. We took it straight to the taxidermist to get mounted and he said he had never seen anything like it either. This taxidermist is a multi-time world camp and has done a lot of museum work. As you can see the goose had lots of canada features, the face patch, the white "v" in the tail feathers, and the beak features. When he honked he sounded like a speck, and also has orange feet and beak of a speck. We are thinking some kind of cross breed, but not sure on what.

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs019.snc3/12632_106053412739102_100000033316876_165047_33621 07_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs039.snc3/12632_106053416072435_100000033316876_165048_66690 25_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs039.snc3/12632_106053419405768_100000033316876_165049_27767 3_n.jpg

Looks like a leucistic spec.

The body is 100% White-front. I hate to tell you, but that thing doesn't look to have any Canada goose features.
Here is a leucistic mallard...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://image56.webshots.com/56/1/82/2/2238182020053722576VQQNGO_ph.jpg&imgrefurl=http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2238182020053722576VQQNGO&usg=__RE9L-POXwMfBwycgajVQz6-Ddbk=&h=600&w=800&sz=57&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=n1I7xeu0idHH4M:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleucistic%2Bmallard%26hl%3Den%26safe% 3Dactive%26um%3D1

albino?

http://www.surfbirds.com/media/gallery_photos/20060103031729.jpg

Albino would have a red/pink eye.

You said this came in in a group of four geese. What were the other three?

That looks like the ~30 year old snow goose mount that was hung up on the wall of the cigarrete smoke infested archery shop I used to work at :flipoff2:

You said this came in in a group of four geese. What were the other three?

Canada's

hybred barnyard/canada would be my guess :confused:

Wow. Havn't done that since marriage and kids. Looks COAAAAALLLLLDDD!! lol.

Looks like a great time. I didn't miss it much till I saw those photos. Arkansas here I come again!

Wow. Havn't done that since marriage and kids. Looks COAAAAALLLLLDDD!! lol.

Looks like a great time. I didn't miss it much till I saw those photos. Arkansas here I come again!

We had a great time. Saturday it got into the mid 30's by the afternoon, Sunday it didn't get out of the 20's. Today the high I saw was 14. There are more pics in the 2009-2010 hunting thread.

Greylag Goose?

http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5400&t=1

http://www.birding.in/images/Birds/rajiv/greylag_goose.jpg

It looks exactly like a Greylag, but aren't Greylags (pretty much) just domesticated White-Fronts?

My buddy sent pictures and the story to two wildlife biologists at KDWP. He is waiting on an e-mail back, I'll post what they have to say about it when he gets a response.

I still think it has some Canada in it. The face patch that wraps around the bottom of the head and the white "v" in the tail feathers, to me, look very Canadian.

My buddy sent pictures and the story to two wildlife biologists at KDWP. He is waiting on an e-mail back, I'll post what they have to say about it when he gets a response.

I still think it has some Canada in it. The face patch that wraps around the bottom of the head and the white "v" in the tail feathers, to me, look very Canadian.

You're going to jail :p

I'm going with Brecon Buff:

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs019.snc3/12632_106053412739102_100000033316876_165047_33621 07_n.jpghttp://www.jphpk.gov.my/English/brecon%20buff%20fem.jpg

I'm no waterfowl hunter but it seems like around here the regs tell you what can and cannot be shot. If I shot something that I couldn't identify, I'd either leave it lay (possibly getting in trouble for wasting) or get it plucked and cooked in a hurry. No way I would send a picture to the game cops. Maybe your rules are different?

YMMV

I'm no waterfowl hunter but it seems like around here the regs tell you what can and cannot be shot. If I shot something that I couldn't identify, I'd either leave it lay (possibly getting in trouble for wasting) or get it plucked and cooked in a hurry. No way I would send a picture to the game cops. Maybe your rules are different?

YMMV

I was thinking the same. If you are dumb enough to confess then let the cards fall how they may.

cross posted this on another board. Someone will know...

I'm no waterfowl hunter but it seems like around here the regs tell you what can and cannot be shot. If I shot something that I couldn't identify, I'd either leave it lay (possibly getting in trouble for wasting) or get it plucked and cooked in a hurry. No way I would send a picture to the game cops. Maybe your rules are different?

YMMV


Possum Cops can put a hurting on you, quick.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9927/pomeranian.jpg

Female Pomeranian...:D

I'm no waterfowl hunter but it seems like around here the regs tell you what can and cannot be shot. If I shot something that I couldn't identify, I'd either leave it lay (possibly getting in trouble for wasting) or get it plucked and cooked in a hurry. No way I would send a picture to the game cops. Maybe your rules are different?

YMMV

If it's not designated in the regs as a restricted species (IE only 2 pintails, 1 canvasback, 2 hen mallards etc,) you can shoot your limit of them. Here our limit is 4 geese of any species so we could shoot 4 of em. Our limit is 7 ducks with restrictions on some species. Just because it doesn't say how many greenwing teal I can shoot doesn't mean I can't shoot them. For waterfowl everything is open game unless restricted.


It does have canada looking traits. It does look like a domestic. Prolly a farmxcanada cross.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9927/pomeranian.jpg

Female Pomeranian...:D

Funny looking beak on that thing. :flipoff2:

http://www.littlepawz.com/dog_images/pomeranian.jpg

I'm going with Brecon Buff:

That looks really close. The quick search I did on those said they were in the UK and bigger than the one he got. But that does not mean thats not what it is.

I'm no waterfowl hunter but it seems like around here the regs tell you what can and cannot be shot. If I shot something that I couldn't identify, I'd either leave it lay (possibly getting in trouble for wasting) or get it plucked and cooked in a hurry. No way I would send a picture to the game cops. Maybe your rules are different?

YMMV

I was thinking the same. If you are dumb enough to confess then let the cards fall how they may.

Possum Cops can put a hurting on you, quick.

All geese are legal and in season here. I'm not worried about that at all. Of all the people that have seen these pictures and the bird itself, you guys are the first ones to say anything about this issue.

cross posted this on another board. Someone will know...

Could you post a link? I'd like to see what they have to say. This has already been posted on nodakoutdoors.com

Could you post a link? I'd like to see what they have to say. This has already been posted on nodakoutdoors.com


http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1543212&forum_id=34

what some of them think...

http://www.oceanwanderers.com/LeucCanGo.hmtl

hybred barnyard/canada would be my guess :confused:

This.

I shot one about 10 years ago.
Mount it.

The cheek patch gives it away.

All geese are legal and in season here. I'm not worried about that at all. Of all the people that have seen these pictures and the bird itself, you guys are the first ones to say anything about this issue.

That's why I prefaced my comment the way I did. I haven't studied the regs in detail because I don't hunt birds. I just remember seeing limits on some things like Alpine4x4 stated and wasn't sure on geese. If all goose species are okay, then you should be good to go.

I guess I would still be a little uncomfortable sending a pic to the cops and saying "I shot this, what is it?" I think you are supposed to identify it before you shoot. Then again (I can't see the picture from this computer) if it is obviously a goose, then should be okay.

If it's not designated in the regs as a restricted species (IE only 2 pintails, 1 canvasback, 2 hen mallards etc,) you can shoot your limit of them. Here our limit is 4 geese of any species so we could shoot 4 of em. Our limit is 7 ducks with restrictions on some species. Just because it doesn't say how many greenwing teal I can shoot doesn't mean I can't shoot them. For waterfowl everything is open game unless restricted.


It does have canada looking traits. It does look like a domestic. Prolly a farmxcanada cross.

Hey Alpine, I'll be up in your fine state hunting for a few days with a friend at the beginning of the year. In Cashmere, specifically.

For everyone saying it's a Canada cross...For the sake of arguing...I don't think that the cheek patch on this guy represents a Canada. Look at the picture of the albino Canada above and tell me that the goose the OP posted has the same patch. That cheek patch is the ONLY thing that would make this thing resemble a Canada, and it's not a "cheek patch," it's just some lighter coloration (obviously, this is an opinion, YMMV).

I'm sticking to my guns on this one. It's a leucistic (black eye, not red) White-front.

Hey Alpine, I'll be up in your fine state hunting for a few days with a friend at the beginning of the year. In Cashmere, specifically.

For everyone saying it's a Canada cross...For the sake of arguing...I don't think that the cheek patch on this guy represents a Canada. Look at the picture of the albino Canada above and tell me that the goose the OP posted has the same patch. That cheek patch is the ONLY thing that would make this thing resemble a Canada, and it's not a "cheek patch," it's just some lighter coloration (obviously, this is an opinion, YMMV).

I'm sticking to my guns on this one. It's a leucistic (black eye, not red) White-front.

Hunting with Rylan eh? I Live in East Wenatchee about 10 minutes from Cashmere. Lemme know what days you're gonna be in town and I'll see if Rylan won't let me tag along. We've hunted before and he invited me again this year.

Yes, sir. Send me a PM.

Sent.:smokin:

Regarldless,

It's a pretty bird.

Congrats to your buddy.


God Bless,
David B.

My buddy got an e-mail back from Dale Humburg. He is the chief biologist with Ducks Unlimited. Here is what he wrote.

I received your note concerning identification of the light-colored goose you shot. The bird has characteristics of a white-front (deeply grooved neck feathers, bill, and white area of feathers immediately behind the bill – plus your comment on the voice sounding like a whitefront as well). The white cheek patch and rump and wing coverts also look to be Canada-like. Additionally, the light colored plumage overall supports the leukistic nature of the bird (lacking some pigment). I would not say that it is neither Canada or white-fronted goose – likely a genetic mix of the two, plus some leukistic characteristics.

Cool:smokin:

Very cool, indeed. Will make a beautiful mount. :smokin:

Post up pics once it's mounted! That things beautiful :smokin:

Post up pics once it's mounted! That things beautiful :smokin:

I will post pics when its done, unfortunately it most likely won't be done for about a year.