I got a good deal on a greenlee bender today. The guy never used it. All I have to do is pour and finish a garage floor for him. He pays the materials. This thing is awsome. I'm getting the roll cage done in the race rig like in no time.
http://gold.mylargescale.com/gardentrains/bender.jpg

EMT is different O.D. than tube, and Ridgid is the same as pipe. Basicly no different than a Harbor Frieght Pipe bender.

I second what CJ said. Hope you plan on making your roll bar out of Scd. 40 pipe.

if i remember correctly those are made for bending big electric conduit. is conduit the same sizing as pipe?

Yea, I'm using 2' shd 40 for everything. It's a little heavey but it's worth it for the saftey bit. I can't count how many times I was close to being over the last race. I have a, well had( the roof is off now) a couple beauty marks on the cab above the driver side window.

hey dm where u at?? wanna play sometime...i bring the beer:)

where u running at the miler??

The sch 40 that I am using is 2 3/8 od works great. I have the shoes for 1'1/4 to 4"

Originally posted by dmracing
The sch 40 that I am using is 2 3/8 od works great. I have the shoes for 1'1/4 to 4"

sweeet lets start a gas company :rasta:

Originally posted by camo
if i remember correctly those are made for bending big electric conduit. is conduit the same sizing as pipe?

There is several typs of "conduit" the most common are Elect Metal Conduit and Ridig Metal Conduit. RMC is the same as pipe, and EMT has a smaller od than RMC but is still different than tube.

Although Greanly does sell a shoe for tube that may work in that bender, but proably will not work.

Originally posted by OTTERGONEJPN
hey dm where u at?? wanna play sometime...i bring the beer:)

where u running at the miler??


Otter, I am In Halifax. Yes I ran the 7 miler. I broke three shocks. All those rocks pushed my shock ends through the inner fender wells at the stock shock tower . That thing was ruff.

Heres the results and some pics (http://www.eventscoring.com)

im just over the mountain in clarks valley

Abuddy of mine has the same bender and he rotted out one of the shoes to fit tubing it does a pretty good job the couple times I have seen it used.

I got most of my cage done tonight. I have it all tacked. I'll have to go over it tomorrow. I took some pics but it's pretty dark. Here they are any way. Hey Otter. You may be just across the mountain from me. I'm On Powells Valley Rd. almost out to Carsonville.
http://gold.mylargescale.com/gardentrains/rollbaron1.jpg

I'll have to get some tomorrow. Another
http://gold.mylargescale.com/gardentrains/rollbaron2.jpg

That greenlee is designed to run on a rail system. Great bender for big stuff. I'm an Electrician currently working out at an Intel site. I'll see if I can get a pic of it tomorrow, but not sure. Intel frowns on cameras on site.
Rigid (and especially Emt) are not designed to withstand the kind of forces that can take place in a serious rollover. Sure, rigid is stout stuff and is definitely heavy to carry around and install all day, but I wouldn't trust my life to it in a high speed rollover. It's little more than potmetal cast/rolled/extruded/whatever into pipe. Very inexpensive material. Also consider the radius as proof of it's strength. 2" rigid bent on a Greenlee triple nickle (555) will have a radius into the double digits (smaller machine, so add 50% radius to this for your bender). Large radius for pipe is for two fold. 1) Longer radius is better for pulling wire and, 2) Larger radius won't deform/split the pipe as easily.
Just .02 from someone who uses this equipment regularly. Please, at least look into getting a different die so that you can use the right materials (tubing, not pipe).
Travis
P.S. You won't get much more than 100* bend on that machine, if that matters to you. Also, way to go on the price! That's a couple thousand dollar bender, and you scored all the dies too!

thows things are kink-O-Matics

I'm waiting for the first tube Nazi to claim that 2" schedule 40 is not adequate for a cage:D


that sumbitch must way a ton:eek:

You guys knock the Harbor Freight Bender, but I got one and made new dies for it in my machine shop and it bends beautifully. The key is getting dies the right size and adding a buckle strap on the die to keep the tubing from kinking when you bend high angles. I bend almost exclusively ChromMolly tubing. That is the only thing I would trust my life to. I won't even use DOM.

Tom Houston
Loveland, Colorao

Originally posted by Tom Houston
You guys knock the Harbor Freight Bender, but I got one and made new dies for it in my machine shop and it bends beautifully. The key is getting dies the right size and adding a buckle strap on the die to keep the tubing from kinking when you bend high angles. I bend almost exclusively ChromMolly tubing. That is the only thing I would trust my life to. I won't even use DOM.

Tom Houston
Loveland, Colorao

Any pics?

Thanks, Mike

Yes do show us some pics. Someone will host them for you I am sure.

Not to high jack the thread but what is the difference in OD of Tubing vs. Pipe. I read that EMT type pipe is not a TRUE 2" and that it is the same as Rigid type (?) pipe. But that tubing is diffent than this. Is tubing a true size (Actually the same OD os it is called)?

(Just using 2" OD as an example, but plug in whatever size you want.)

Tim

Originally posted by Tom Houston
You guys knock the Harbor Freight Bender, but I got one and made new dies for it in my machine shop and it bends beautifully. The key is getting dies the right size and adding a buckle strap on the die to keep the tubing from kinking when you bend high angles. I bend almost exclusively ChromMolly tubing. That is the only thing I would trust my life to. I won't even use DOM.

Tom Houston
Loveland, Colorao

Noone's doubting it's ability to bend something, but out of the box it's not bending tubing with any great success.

Need! pics! :flipoff2:

Bryan

Originally posted by Tim Smith
Yes do show us some pics. Someone will host them for you I am sure.

Not to high jack the thread but what is the difference in OD of Tubing vs. Pipe. I read that EMT type pipe is not a TRUE 2" and that it is the same as Rigid type (?) pipe. But that tubing is diffent than this. Is tubing a true size (Actually the same OD os it is called)?

(Just using 2" OD as an example, but plug in whatever size you want.)

Tim

Tubing is measured by OD while pipe is measured by ID. If you order 2" pipe, you'll get 2" ID pipe. Likewise, if you order 2" tube, you'll get 2" OD tube. However, I have recently found that the ID on pipe is not exact. All the pipe that I have found actually measures slightly larger on the ID than it's advertised ID.

Tom! Welcome newbie :flipoff2:
You're right, your machined dies work great. It didn't even kink that 1" solid tube. :D

Tom, a newbie welcome :flipoff2:

Not all of us can have new dies machined for that Harbor Freight POS, :D

Personally I would not build a roll cage with one, I know of people on this board who have, with good results. But for other bending duties it does fine.

Hey you get what you pay for.

Grant

Originally posted by Tom Houston
adding a buckle strap on the die to keep the tubing from kinking when you bend high angles.

:confused: Can you explain or show some pics:question:

That bender is worth a fortune. For the price you sell it (id say its worth over a grand, used), you could buy a JD2/ProTool bender that is made for tubing with dies. The bends will look much nicer (not going to start with the tubing vs. pipe arguement...but tubings better...haha!) Greenlee = the best and the most expensive when it comes to pipe bending and knock out tools. (we paid 5 grand for a greenlee bender, which is similar to a jd2 type bender in process, but it is electric. Shoes are upwards of 600 bucks a pop...)