Like the title says, I am doing the prerunner to SAS. It's a 99 2.7 auto p-runner. I have all my parts picked out for the swap, and located a toy axle at a local yard. Trying to keep it yota, but if its a huge problem then I will get the D44. My issue is that since I do not have a t-case (obviously) will a toy passenger drop t-case bolt up to the trans with an inchworm adapter? I would like to rule out the inchworm, but I believe that may be the only way. If I can bolt one up which case can I use? Also, I do not feel that I need a dual case setup, not that hardcore around me for one. Been searching for a while and this the only answer i can not find.


thanks guys!
Alex

oh! small budget, so I dont want Inchworms righty case...$775!

I used a w56 trans on mine, the original w 59 bell housing, and the early right hand drop case that came with the w 56. Chop the 2wd crosmember in the center and build yourself an adapter crossmember. I ran spring under with 44044's and factory steering arms. If you use chevy tie rod ends and intersect the tie rod with the drag link (like rock equipment uses) you can forgo high steer arms and no flip and weld. If you dont mind flip and weld do that. Use a late model fj forward arm box if you want to move your axle a long way up, if you don't use a mini truck 86-whatever box. With a 2 inch body lift you can raise the drivetrain and have a completely flat belly pan, but you have to use the carrier bearing from the 2wd to keep it high.

Have fun.

Barret

I used a w56 trans on mine, the original w 59 bell housing, and the early right hand drop case that came with the w 56. Chop the 2wd crosmember in the center and build yourself an adapter crossmember. I ran spring under with 44044's and factory steering arms. If you use chevy tie rod ends and intersect the tie rod with the drag link (like rock equipment uses) you can forgo high steer arms and no flip and weld. If you dont mind flip and weld do that. Use a late model fj forward arm box if you want to move your axle a long way up, if you don't use a mini truck 86-whatever box. With a 2 inch body lift you can raise the drivetrain and have a completely flat belly pan, but you have to use the carrier bearing from the 2wd to keep it high.

Have fun.

Barret


Wow thank you! I don't want to flip, b/c I lack welding tools. I have a cousin that's a great distance so I have to work with his schedule. Thanks again! Going research these parts!

ok well I did some reseach, the W56 seems to be a manual tranny. the years are between 85 - 95 and are 5 speeds...I need an auto tho...

Yeah, if you wanted to convert to manual, you could. Just need a few more parts. wispered "Come over to the dark side."

If you want to keep the auto, you may have a lot more research to do. I haven't worked with toy autos much, but your entering a relm of more difficult to find parts. Probably want to get one out of another tacoma.

Good luck

Barret

P.S. Check out OTT for a divorce mount. You will undoubtedly need custom shafts, but that goes with the territory.

Yeah, if you wanted to convert to manual, you could. Just need a few more parts. wispered "Come over to the dark side."

If you want to keep the auto, you may have a lot more research to do. I haven't worked with toy autos much, but your entering a relm of more difficult to find parts. Probably want to get one out of another tacoma.

Good luck

Barret

P.S. Check out OTT for a divorce mount. You will undoubtedly need custom shafts, but that goes with the territory.

Hm coverting to manual...interesting. Only seen one thread in the past about that. I may consider! Oh yea the shats no doubt, imma use the rear stock and shorten it. Front...? No clue about that, but I can see what others use for their toy fronts. thanks again!

Does anyone else have any info on this topic... I have a '00 2wd prerunner with the auto.

1. I want to run the Inchworm prerunner adapter and a right hand drop pre '85 toy t-case, can this be done?

2. What problems would I run into if I ran a pre '80 Wagoneer passenger drop dana 44?

Any help or ideas are appreciated, thanks in advance

Does anyone else have any info on this topic... I have a '00 2wd prerunner with the auto.

1. I want to run the Inchworm prerunner adapter and a right hand drop pre '85 toy t-case, can this be done?

2. What problems would I run into if I ran a pre '80 Wagoneer passenger drop dana 44?

Any help or ideas are appreciated, thanks in advance


From inchworms site..
"This adapter replaces the tail housing on these automatics and allows single or double 4wd gear driven transfer cases to be installed."

With the prerunner adapter your basically stuck (for lack of better term) with using the early toy cases behind that particular adapter ;)
Great for some people doing sases and people who want to convert to a passenger drop.. but not so great for the people doing a 4X4 conversion on an IFS tacoma. ;)

As for your second question.. Well, not many more then if you were using a passenger side drop toy axle. You've got the exhaust on that side. But I'm sure thats the least of your worries..


Just my 2cents..

I was going to read this thread to refresh my memory on what Revivalist did, but it's way too long. It is a good read however.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504902&highlight=

I was going to read this thread to refresh my memory on what Revivalist did, but it's way too long. It is a good read however.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504902&highlight=

Its on the first page :p

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5865486&postcount=25

Looks like he got a 4x4 trans from a 5VZ 4Runner.. and used an adapter to mount up a gear driven case behind it.

I'm totally fine with running a toy passenger drop gear case because the inchworn with 4.7 gears is only $800 when the lefty is around $2000.

- If I can run a pre '80 wagoneer passenger drop dana 44 then I'm down for this swap.


So can someone confirm that this axle will work with a SAS on a Tacoma?

I believe it can. i found this:

It wasn't until the 80s before Jeep switched to the driver side drop. Anything before the 80s were passenger side drop axles. For the '83-'85 models since they came with vacuum disconnects. These axles are worthless.

'74-75 Wagoneer frnt-59" rr-57.5"
'74-75 Cherokee (full size) frnt-58.8' rr-57.5"
'76-91 Wagoneer, '80+ Cher frnt-59.4" rr-57.8"
'76-79 Cherokee (full size) frnt-59.2" rr-57.8"
'76-78 Cherokee S frnt-59.5" rr-58.5"
'76-80 Cherokee Chief 2 dr. frnt-65.4" rr-62.3"
'81-83 Cherokee Chief 2 dr. frnt-65.3" rr-62.3"

Lengths are the same. Just switch the output shafts in the prerunner tranny and bolt up the t-case from a tacoma, more work less money. There's a write up on TTORA about doing it. Or just get the tranny and t-case from a boneyard.

From inchworms site..
"This adapter replaces the tail housing on these automatics and allows single or double 4wd gear driven transfer cases to be installed."

With the prerunner adapter your basically stuck (for lack of better term) with using the early toy cases behind that particular adapter ;)
Great for some people doing sases and people who want to convert to a passenger drop.. but not so great for the people doing a 4X4 conversion on an IFS tacoma. ;)

As for your second question.. Well, not many more then if you were using a passenger side drop toy axle. You've got the exhaust on that side. But I'm sure thats the least of your worries..


Just my 2cents..


True and not true. It also allows the use of Inchworm's lefty case for the IFS Tacoma guys.

I'm totally fine with running a toy passenger drop gear case because the inchworn with 4.7 gears is only $800 when the lefty is around $2000.

- If I can run a pre '80 wagoneer passenger drop dana 44 then I'm down for this swap.


So can someone confirm that this axle will work with a SAS on a Tacoma?

Looks at ErikB's thread. He used a wider PS drop D44 cut down a little, but its been done many times.

FWIW, while the Dana 44 is cheaper up front initially, its more expensive to build than a Diamond axle is in the long run. I went with the diamond up front with a Land Cruiser 9.5" Diff. Still cheaper than building a D44 to the same level.

True and not true. It also allows the use of Inchworm's lefty case for the IFS Tacoma guys.

I left out the...

You can use the inchworm prerunner adapter and still have a drivers drop axle but your stuck buying the inchworm lefty which is 2 thousand dollars.

I'll be running the Inchworm Prerunner adapter setup with a stock 2.28 geared crawl box behind that and a stock Tacoma t-case behind that. To have a driver drop setup while keeping my transmission, this was the cheapest option.

So I've been researching... What about a FJ60 axle?

I've got a lead on one for $150

So I've been researching... What about a FJ60 axle?

I've got a lead on one for $150

That's what I want to use on my truck..

This guy used on on his 98 4Runner..

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=64393.0

I'll be running the Inchworm Prerunner adapter setup with a stock 2.28 geared crawl box behind that and a stock Tacoma t-case behind that. To have a driver drop setup while keeping my transmission, this was the cheapest option.

Which I think is a very good option. The stock case is a hell of a lot stronger than what some people give it credit for here. YES! even if you run with 4.7's in the crawl box in front of it.

I think your making a very good choice Brian.

When I build my 4runner I'm going to run the prerunner adapter if I don't find a 4wd 4runner, and then put a 4.7 crawler in front of an FJ Cruiser transfer case.

Well check this build sheet and let me know what I'm leaving out...

Suspension: $970
- Tacoma solid axle swap front hanger (Sky mfg $190)
- Lower Shock mounts F&R (sky mfg. $80)
- Front shock hoops (sky mfg. $70)
- Frenched Shackle hangers (sky mfg. $110)
- Front Shocks (Marlin $160)
- Leaf Springs (All-pro Off-road $270)
- Front U-bolt Flip Kit (All-pro $50)
- Bumpstops (Marlin $40)


Steering: $620
- Toyota High Steer Kit, IFS Box, and Stabilizer Kit (Sky mfg $580)
- Firewall plate (FROR $40)

Front Axle: $1,230
- FJ60 axle (craigslist $200)
- New Perches 3” (Sky Mfg. $30)
- 1986-1995 IFS style front calipers
- FJ60 Vented rotors (sky mfg $80)
- S.S. Brake lines F&R (sky mfg. $80)
- Gear set up kit (Marlin Crawler $130)
- Knuckle and wheel bearing rebuild kit (Marlin $165)
- Gears front 5.29’s (Marlin $245)
- Lock-Right Locker (Marlin $300)

Rear Axle: $710
- Gears 5.29’s ( Marlin $200)
- Gear set up kit (Marlin $200)
- Rear shocks ($160)
- Detroit locker ($150)

Transfer Case: $1,375
- Pre-runner adapter (inchworm $700)
- Right hand drop t-case (craigslist $200)
- Redo rear driveshaft ($100)
- New front drive shaft ($100)
- Twin stick (inchworm $190)
- Cross member (Marlin Crawler $85)

Engine: $225
- Tacoma oil pan conversion (sky mfg. $225)

Tires: $1000

Well check this build sheet and let me know what I'm leaving out...

Suspension: $970
- Tacoma solid axle swap front hanger (Sky mfg $190)
- Lower Shock mounts F&R (sky mfg. $80)
- Front shock hoops (sky mfg. $70)
- Frenched Shackle hangers (sky mfg. $110)
- Front Shocks (Marlin $160)
- Leaf Springs (All-pro Off-road $270)
- Front U-bolt Flip Kit (All-pro $50)
- Bumpstops (Marlin $40)


Steering: $620
- Toyota High Steer Kit, IFS Box, and Stabilizer Kit (Sky mfg $580)
- Firewall plate (FROR $40)

Front Axle: $1,230
- FJ60 axle (craigslist $200)
- New Perches 3” (Sky Mfg. $30)
- 1986-1995 IFS style front calipers
- FJ60 Vented rotors (sky mfg $80)
- S.S. Brake lines F&R (sky mfg. $80)
- Gear set up kit (Marlin Crawler $130)
- Knuckle and wheel bearing rebuild kit (Marlin $165)
- Gears front 5.29’s (Marlin $245)
- Lock-Right Locker (Marlin $300)

Rear Axle: $710
- Gears 5.29’s ( Marlin $200)
- Gear set up kit (Marlin $200)
- Rear shocks ($160)
- Detroit locker ($150)

Transfer Case: $1,375
- Pre-runner adapter (inchworm $700)
- Right hand drop t-case (craigslist $200)
- Redo rear driveshaft ($100)
- New front drive shaft ($100)
- Twin stick (inchworm $190)
- Cross member (Marlin Crawler $85)

Engine: $225
- Tacoma oil pan conversion (sky mfg. $225)

Tires: $1000

Looks good now add about $1,000 more to that and you'll be rolling :flipoff2:

Which I think is a very good option. The stock case is a hell of a lot stronger than what some people give it credit for here. YES! even if you run with 4.7's in the crawl box in front of it.

I think your making a very good choice Brian.

When I build my 4runner I'm going to run the prerunner adapter if I don't find a 4wd 4runner, and then put a 4.7 crawler in front of an FJ Cruiser transfer case.

Remember with an auto, a 4.7 ratio in the crawl box along with the stock low might be too slow. It also costs more which is why I'm sticking with stock gearing in the crawl box :laughing; Shit I had a 4.7 crawl box in front of my stock Tacoma case and never had an issue. I didn't wheel as hard as most though :D

Ya know, I've had everyone tell me that the 4.70 was too low but it aint. It provides me with more options and with just the crawler in low I'm at about the same ratio as the sock t case and a 2.28 crawler in low. Then if I want silly low for those damn water falls in AZ i just put the t case into low and walk right up. And I have an automatic.

Remember to that I have 40" tires so I'm not going to be moving as slow as someone who has 35's with the same gearing as mine.

For now can 37's with 5.29's and the stock 2.28 be ok? I'll be wheeling TX trails, Clayton, OK and Hot Springs AR

For now can 37's with 5.29's and the stock 2.28 be ok? I'll be wheeling TX trails, Clayton, OK and Hot Springs AR

With 37's that 2.28 wont be very low even with 5.29's in the diffs but you'll still be able to wheel it. Once you add a doubler or lower gears you'll really have fun.