Lookin into gettin one (the pod).
Wondering which make to go with, cost vs. quality.
Any experiences with any, hear any stories??

huh? please decode your post for me. what are you looking for? a 35 spline 9" spool?

considering using a 35spl Detriot in the 9". But to do this I will need a new 3rd member to house the larger bearings. So Its the center section I'm wondering about.
Like these (http://www.new9inch.com/index.htm?html/housings.htm~main)
or these (http://performanceunlimited.com/customproducts/9inchdifferential.html)
Strange makes one aswell, not to sure of any others.

If you want to flop one of those so illusive badass front end hybrids in your nose end... all I can give you is this:

Aggro

The man has the big steel 9" answers. :D

10-4 now i got ya.

fyi. in the desert truck we race it has a 46 spline ford 9" that actually runs a 10" gear.

Originally posted by camo
in the desert truck we race it has a 46 spline ford 9" that actually runs a 10" gear.

Umm... not meaning to start a fight... but what's left that's actually Ford 9" in that?
I'm guessing lightweight (maybe Ford, maybe not) thirdmember, fabricated housing, obviously 46 spline axles aren't normal 9" stuff, all I'm coming up with outta my fried brain is housing ends and axle bearings. ???

Just to be semi-useful... 35 spline requires either a Mark Williams spool ($$$) or a standard spool and a large bore thirdmember. There's prolly 8 places to get the thirdmember, they're all pretty similar till you get into huge-cash stuff, mostly right around $400. MW spools require MW axles too. ($$$) 35sp Detroit will require a large bore third.

No offense. No fight necessary. When Camo talks about beef, I and most other tend to trust the source. The man's got beef in the two b est ways.

1. For the gut. Just north of Atascadero. (Locals know)
2. For the rig. If it's not possible, MAKE it possible.

Obviously, a 46 spline 9" is a hybrid. All I said is the only dood that I know of that could translate that tech details would be Aggro. What's even more sick is the man can take junk out of a Thunderbird and make you the highest, tightest and super strong 9" nose tackkle you've ever seen.

You need one of these :p

http://www.dahorse.org/flan/40.jpg

BTW thats a Strange third member.

NoRM

I want one of those! :smokin:

I recently heard (from some 1/4 mile racer dude) that there is a center cection ford the Ford 9" that uses Chev. 12 bolt gears. Brings the pinion up. Tried searchin all over cannt find anything on one. Is this guy 'dillusional'?? or does it exist?

Originally posted by Rogue Bronco
I recently heard (from some 1/4 mile racer dude) that there is a center cection ford the Ford 9" that uses Chev. 12 bolt gears. Brings the pinion up. Tried searchin all over cannt find anything on one. Is this guy 'dillusional'?? or does it exist?

Strange makes it, Mark williams also makes a special spool and pinion support that allows you to put 12 bolt gears in a 9" third member.

Originally posted by P|n-BaLL
You need one of these :p

http://www.dahorse.org/flan/40.jpg

BTW thats a Strange third member.

NoRM

No, thats actually a Chrisman third member. You can even read "chrisman" on the bearing caps, though the bare casting may have started as a strange part. That is the big 40 spline (yes, bigger than Camo's 40 and 46 spline) that measures 2 9/16 od that the big trophy trucks and corr trucks use.

Originally posted by GOAT1


No, thats actually a Chrisman third member. You can even read "chrisman" on the bearing caps, though the bare casting may have started as a strange part. That is the big 40 spline (yes, bigger than Camo's 40 and 46 spline) that measures 2 9/16 od that the big trophy trucks and corr trucks use.

Yeah Goat...it is Chrisman......as are the shafts and housing it belongs in. The 3rd member did start life as a Strange...it's got all Chrisman main caps/studs/spool/ect... This 3rd member is slotted for use in a project that I may someday finish :)

NoRM

Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper


Umm... not meaning to start a fight... but what's left that's actually Ford 9" in that?
I'm guessing lightweight (maybe Ford, maybe not) thirdmember, fabricated housing, obviously 46 spline axles aren't normal 9" stuff, all I'm coming up with outta my fried brain is housing ends and axle bearings. ???

.


the only thing left on the thing that is still ford 9" is the name. the housing ends are made from 300m and are huge. the bearings are even bigger :D no usfull tech here other than to let people know that there is some really exotic stuff out there that is available.


here is an idea of the spindle size and bearings. these are from my 40 spline rear end. the 46 spline ones are even bigger. note the stock size stuff. :eek:

Originally posted by camo
the only thing left on the thing that is still ford 9" is the name. the housing ends are made from 300m and are huge. the bearings are even bigger :D no usfull tech here other than to let people know that there is some really exotic stuff out there that is available.
here is an idea of the spindle size and bearings. these are from my 40 spline rear end. the 46 spline ones are even bigger. note the stock size stuff. :eek:

mmm... drool parts pics. That's what I was really trolling for. :)

From the proportioning, I'm guessing that's a stock 60 spindle on the right, not a 44, correct? (I need a :drool: smilie)

Just for giggles... is the third member flange the standard 9" pattern even, or is that different too?

honestly i don't recall what the stock spindle is. i think it was a front 60.

the flange bolt patern is the same as stock on the 10" third member

OK back to the 35 spline question.

I went with strange all the way.

Strange centersection.
Strange spool.
Strange pinion support.

Make sure you also go with the nodular pinion support so that does not become your weak point.
http://ajax.extremejeep.com/rocktoad/strange.jpg
http://ajax.extremejeep.com/rocktoad/spool.jpg

HEY SCOTT,

LOOK AT YOUR P.M. BOX

BARRY

Originally posted by GOAT1

12 bolt gears in 9"
Strange makes it, Mark williams also makes a special spool and pinion support that allows you to put 12 bolt gears in a 9" third member.
Any links to this shiat?? What spline is 12 bolt junk & how do they hold up??

Originally posted by Rogue Bronco

Any links to this shiat?? What spline is 12 bolt junk & how do they hold up??

Look for the Strange or Mark Williams site.I don't know how well they hold up, it is mostly a drag racing thing, people use them because the 12 bolt is not as inefficient as a 9" so it robs less power and gives you quicker times, I've heard it makes a big difference.

Ya, I know why they use them, and being race sh!t it should be good stuff. But you are now the SECOND person thats heard of these that I've found.

so check this out.

i am talking to sandy cone about 35 spline 9" lockers and he tells me he builds pre- runner rear ends using a billet locker made by "quick change exchange " and i was dumb founded. i had never even heard of these and yet he says he has been making the side gears for them for years. anyhow he swears they are heads and sholders above a detroit. here is a link but it only shows the quick change model but he says just call them and ask about the 9" one.

http://www.quickchangeexchange.com/dets.qc.html


oh and he recomends the third members that are made by hot rod wheels. apperantly they are the nodular units you can get through jegs.

strange makes the 12 bolt third member. it is available in aluminum. it is only 3 percent more effecient than a 9"

it is pretty much a drag race only deal

Originally posted by camo
so check this out.

i am talking to sandy cone about 35 spline 9" lockers and he tells me he builds pre- runner rear ends using a billet locker made by "quick change exchange " and i was dumb founded. i had never even heard of these and yet he says he has been making the side gears for them for years. anyhow he swears they are heads and sholders above a detroit. here is a link but it only shows the quick change model but he says just call them and ask about the 9" one.

http://www.quickchangeexchange.com/dets.qc.html


oh and he recomends the third members that are made by hot rod wheels. apperantly they are the nodular units you can get through jegs.

And how do they compare to a Lenco? I run a lenco 35 spline in the rear and have never had any issues with it.

Originally posted by Aggro


And how do they compare to a Lenco? I run a lenco 35 spline in the rear and have never had any issues with it.

like i said i had never even heard of them. the info is passed on from sandy cone who is the builder of the rear ends of many of the top off road teams. he has been in the business of building state of the art off road race parts since off road racing began. i can't compare them but i can inquire if you like, there is not much he has not seen or tryed running in his quest for a better part.

looking for 411 on lenco lockers. thier site does not show one. gotta link ?

I like the Mark Williams cases. They use a snap ring to hold the inner pinion bearing, can be had with 7/16" or 3/8 pinion support studs, and are cheaper than the rest. The Masterline one runs $329.00 www.markwilliams.com

IIRC, a lenco is just a billet detroit

Originally posted by JEEPRZ
IIRC, a lenco is just a billet detroit

Yep, a detroit locker guts put into a machined billit case. Don't know about a website, I got mine from dutchman

Originally posted by Aggro


Yep, a detroit locker guts put into a machined billit case. Don't know about a website, I got mine from dutchman

well thats a bummer. the detroit case is ok it is the powdered metal technology parts inside that fail.

from what sandy was telling me about the quick change exchange locker the part that makes them so neat is that they use billit parts inside a cast case.

so what we need is a lenco case with quick change guts. a complete billet locker.