Pirates v binder bulletin

[troutbum]

Since I am sure most of you frequent both places I am just curious as to why you think the attitudes are so different between these two BB's. I go both places for tech stuff but if I am looking for new ideas or just to relax it is seldom the BB, IMO the BB is like talking to my great uncle tons of good info, but he usually repeats himself and it can at times be painful. Both have their advantages, just wondered what you thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[JoshC]

The BB is full of IH People. The reason you hear so much repetition is because users cycle in and out. Many stay. I enjoy both sites. Pirate4x4 is my dark, fun, agressive side. The BB is for my polite, community support, IH pride side.
The BB has been goin down hill lately though. Slow server, a lotta bitchin about pety shit, very little creativity. Seems to be mostly a stock only croud.
At the same time, I get very little tech info out of this site. A couple of you guys in this IH section of POR, are way more experienced than the bolt-on crouds in the other sections. --Josh

[Old Scout]

I burned out the dumb ass newbies on the BB. There is way to many "new" scout owners with poor wrenching skill and poor computer skills not doing there homework. <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

I have been only been on the net three years and when I found the BB I read and searched for over a month before I asked my first question. I think that the BB really went down hill when Bill stopped the Pic uploads. I'm still missing a few issues of his tech rag and the last few were just one long commercial for Caveman's 700r4 adapter! I guess his promise of subscription fulfillment is bogus.

I lurked on POR for a few months and things were much different than they are now. POR has be going softer and softer for the last year. But thing are much better than the BB!

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by troutbum:
<STRONG>Since I am sure most of you frequent both places I am just curious as to why you think the attitudes are so different between these two BB's. I go both places for tech stuff but if I am looking for new ideas or just to relax it is seldom the BB, IMO the BB is like talking to my great uncle tons of good info, but he usually repeats himself and it can at times be painful. Both have their advantages, just wondered what you thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Well, given the rate of new / hard technical questions on POR, no wonder there doesn't seem to be many on the BB!

POR *seems* to be more wheelin' oriented than "IH" oriented (even the POR-IH section).

"How can I get better gas mileage out of my Scout?" is not something I've seen posted here. :-)

Similarly, no one's asked about hdyro-steer mods to their steering box on BB.

I have seen 1/4-elip and link-susp questions on the Bulletin, but not a whole lot of responses, and usually from someone that lacks the $$$$/skills to pull it off.

There ARE wheelers on the Bulletin, and some folks that know their stuff - but they don't seem to need advice, or no one asks them the right questions to drag their info outta 'em.

And as OldScout said - you can only answer the same question so many times before your bored to tears with it.

The POR-attitude seems to cut down on those types. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

..If I had a $1 for every post I've read about wanting to put Chevy running gear under their Scout or something.. that I've already answered in the archives 30 times.. I could finally afford my winch. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>I'm still missing a few issues of his tech rag and the last few were just one long commercial for Caveman's 700r4 adapter! I guess his promise of subscription fulfillment is bogus.
</STRONG>

Y'mean you didn't get the issue on Mr.Scout's crawler box? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I think I'm missing the most recent one.. must've gotten lost around the house while I was off playin' at Rendezvous..

[Ben W]

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
<STRONG>
POR *seems* to be more wheelin' oriented than "IH" oriented (even the POR-IH section).
</STRONG>

Exactly. Pirate4x4.com is purely about wheeling. Primarily rockcrawling, but there are people with every type of wheeling experience around here. Also, if you guys don't frequent General 4x4, and occasionally check in on the other sections, you're missing alot of good 4x4 tech that can be applied to our IH vehicles.

[JoshC]

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
<STRONG>I think I'm missing the most recent one.. must've gotten lost around the house while I was off playin' at Rendezvous..</STRONG>

The most recent ONE. I havn't seen one since the "how to prep for paint" issue. --Josh

[Scout Dude]

Originally posted by JoshC:
<STRONG>The most recent ONE. I havn't seen one since the "how to prep for paint" issue. --Josh</STRONG>

Why would you waste your money on an IH mag for "How to prep for paint?" Any car restoration magazine will work. I stopped looking into the BB years ago. It took me a while to realize that when you swap out the drive train and running gear, most Scout sites are worthless for information. This site has helped educate me about all 4x4's so that I know which parts to apply to my Scout.

[scouter77]

I went there once and got the impression it was all resto old timer fogeys! All hardcore IH tunnel vision freaks. I read back in the archives and never wanted to post. No offence to the owner's of the board but its too boring... My dad is in a corvette restoration and preservation society (read subculture extrordinaire) and its all on how to make it look like it came off trhe factory assembly line. While I respect the hours and hours they spend rebuilding and lubing their quartz crystal clocks on the dash WHO GIVES A FAWK! I think musclecars are made to go fast and trucks, jeeps, and (solid axled) 4x4's are made to wheel. With apporpriate wheeling comes scratches, dents, and loss of paint and some dash functionality. Same with going fast and vibrations from musclecars! To sum it up restoration isnt my thing I am not that anal and I dont care to read all about it. While I appreciate it like painting a portrait I wouldnt want to do it...

[jdjanda]

I'm feel the same as many of you. The BB is the place to go to find obscure info for IH's in the archives. The BB is where the newbies start out, and I agree that too many BB users never bother to search the Archives. But remember we all had to start somewhere. I am a mix of Rock Crawler, IH enthusiast, so I still frequent both sites. I have let to figure out if I fit in on POR, as I don't foresee a Pirate flag in my future. The blindfold thing freaks me out, mainly because my current spotter put me into a F**N rock on Sunday. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

Joe

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by troutbum:
<STRONG>Since I am sure most of you frequent both places I am just curious as to why you think the attitudes are so different between these two BB's. I go both places for tech stuff but if I am looking for new ideas or just to relax it is seldom the BB, IMO the BB is like talking to my great uncle tons of good info, but he usually repeats himself and it can at times be painful. Both have their advantages, just wondered what you thought. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


I spend time on both. I like to help with newbie questions on BB, but am getting good at posting links to questions already answered.

I like this board because it has attitude
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> People have thicker skin here. Don't have to walk on eggshells when posting No one takes anything here too seriously.

And, like Tom said, this has more wheeling content, and less maintenance content.

[JoshC]

jdjanda. Welcome mofawka! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
--Josh

[JoshC]

Originally posted by Scout Dude:
<STRONG>Why would you waste your money on an IH mag for "How to prep for paint?" </STRONG>

I thought I was getting scout specific info from Scout enthusiasts. And it is good info in many cases. Just too bad things are changing with the BB.

It still has it's place though. I'm with you on the Scouts were meant to be off road, but I love old American iron. And i respect many of those old fogies that restore the IH rigs.

--Josh

[Hayraker]

The BB is great if you think IH Buses and 2 ton trucks are COOOLL! Personally I dont. Dont get me wrong I love my scout,...but if I had found a Furd,Heep, or Suzuki in good shape for $750 I'm sure I would love it too; I just wanted something to build to wheel.

Oh, by the way they have a very insightful thread on "what CD player should I put in my Scout II" WTF?

I reply to questions over there but it's not entertaining like this board. And while were ripping Scout boards; ORC's sucks too.

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: Hayraker ]

[Caveman]

You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts. I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!

[Scoutillac]

Dude!!!! fix your exhaust leak, the fumes are affecting your brain <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[Old Scout]

<IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> Scoutman is one of the biggest goof balls over there!!
Scoutillac BB lover has been here longer that you have
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> look at his member # <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: Old Scout ]

[Scoutillac]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> Scoutman is one of the biggest goof balls over there!!
Scoutillac BB lover has been here long that you have
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> look at his member # <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Then by now he should know how to fix that exhaust leak <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Ben W]

Originally posted by BB Lover:
<STRONG>You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts. I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!</STRONG>


Why'd you change your name Caveman? Not the same caveman w/ the 700r4 adapter?? Its appropriate to use smilies <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> when you're being sarcastic. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: 61Scout ]

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Hayraker:
<STRONG>The BB is great if you think IH Buses and 2 ton trucks are COOOLL! Personally I dont.
</STRONG>

Hey, I almost bought (and may still) a 2Ton Loadstar.. but it's 4x4 and a dually. :-) Crewcab, 8' flatbed, dually, 2ton 4x4 with 6.17 gears.

I wanted it to haul my Scouts around with - on it's back (stretch the flatbed). Too bad I bought my Travelette just before the Loadstar came up for sale again. *pout*

<STRONG>
Dont get me wrong I love my scout,...but if I had found a Furd,Heep, or Suzuki in good shape for $750 I'm sure I would love it too;

</STRONG>

Hayraker - you got taken! $750?? Could you see your reflection in the paint? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

<STRONG>
Oh, by the way they have a very insightful thread on "what CD player should I put in my Scout II" WTF?
</STRONG>

Wasn't Darrel the one that started it? And he wheels his Scout a good bit. An honest question..

I put a 10-disc changer in my Scout II. On the occasion that it skips too much, I put a tape in the deck. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<STRONG>
I reply to questions over there but it's not entertaining like this board. And while were ripping Scout boards; ORC's sucks too.
</STRONG>

*I* wasn't "ripping" on any boards - just noting the differences (I can point out why Scouts are better than Jeeps without having to put the Jeeps down..).

ORC's is pretty lame.. but.. hey, isn't that where you posted the first time? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0">

Not much going on on BC4x4 either..

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by BB Lover:
<STRONG>You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts. I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!</STRONG>


ROFL. I agree. I agree. I never get flamed on the BB. I come here for that!!!
<IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

BTW, I have a 352 IH V-8 not a 350!!! LOL

What is wrong with my *Hooper* graphic. It won't show up in my posts anymore. I think they are blocking it <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

Uh oh. I figgered it out. Problems in Montana

http://www.ihssii.org/pagegraphics/HooperB.jpg <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by BB Lover:
<STRONG>You guys are just mean! I love the BB and some of us are much less skilled than most and would love to put in 350 engines to our scouts.
</STRONG>

ACkkk.. 350!! My ears, they're bleeding! (or is that eyes?).

Oh, wait.. I have a 350 in my Scout.. but it's an IH SV-350. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<STRONG>
I think Bill T is a god and he should be more respected on this and every board! Scoutman SV is my hero and I get to ask all the dumb questions I want and no body flames me. I just think you guys suck!</STRONG>


Now I can't decide if this is for-real or a joke. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

But FWIW.. I think Bill T's a nice guy and welcome his company when I can, but he's no more "God-like" than the rest of us. Just a really nice guy that knows what he's about n' what he's not.

Heck, I KNOW he can't be a God - otherwise how could a GIRL beat him in the "Dirtybone" racing at RMIHR this year? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Then again, it was my girl in my rig, so it really wasn't fair contest.. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Hayraker]

I LOVE getting flamed and reading posts where other people get flamed thats why I come back, and yes Tom ORC is where I made my first post and if you had not of visited there I would still be waiting on a reply.

KEEP IT COMING GUYS

BTW Bill T. is a GOD <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Hooper:
<STRONG>


What is wrong with my *Hooper* graphic. It won't show up in my posts anymore. I think they are blocking it <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

</STRONG>

Can the graphic Patty, its getting old.

[jdjanda]

Originally posted by JoshC:
<STRONG>jdjanda. Welcome mofawka!
--Josh</STRONG>
Is that your clutch burning, or the rubber meting on those 35's from rubbing the fenders? Or your clutch linkage jammin the clutch causing it to burn, or .... Fuck it wheel it <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Scoutillac]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG>Can the graphic Patty, its getting old.</STRONG>


Geese Ben, feelin a bit bitchy today
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Scoutillac:
<STRONG>
Geese Ben, feelin a bit bitchy today
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> If there was a scoutsunlimited.com I'd say it was too SU-ish.

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: 61Scout ]

[Snoopy]

Thats for darn sure. Here is why I visit the BB - good ol IHC guys, less swearing, at times there are interesting threads, watch out for flamers.

Here is why I come to the Pirate 4x4 page. More hard-core wheelers, better pictures, interesting creations and the like.

I think they both are a great resource, but for different things.

D

[Scoutillac]

Welcome D&C here is the customary <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> for ya <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[JoshC]

Originally posted by Snoopy:
<STRONG>Thats for darn sure. </STRONG>

What's for darn sure? and a Pirate Salute to you <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

It sure would be nice to have that guy from D&C here on the pirate board though <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

--Josh

[Old Scout]

OHH man who left the door open and snoopy came in! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>OHH man who left the door open and snoopy came in! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Does this mean the RedBaron won't be joining us now? <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
<STRONG>Does this mean the RedBaron won't be joining us now? <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

<IMG width=550 height=40 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/snoopybaronLINEANIM.gif">

[scouter77]

Originally posted by JoshC:
<STRONG>I thought I was getting scout specific info from Scout enthusiasts. And it is good info in many cases. Just too bad things are changing with the BB.

It still has it's place though. I'm with you on the Scouts were meant to be off road, but I love old American iron. And i respect many of those old fogies that restore the IH rigs.

--Josh</STRONG>


I said I respect them too. Its just not my style is all... I never discredited them.

[JoshC]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>
I said I respect them too. Its just not my style is all... I never discredited them.</STRONG>

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that because I respect them, you don't. --Josh

[Scouter]

I read the BB now and then and it seems the IH people over there are where the Jeep guys were in 1982. A Chevrolet is an upgrade in a Scout, lockers (not lunch box) are good, a spool in the rear is streetable, 31" tires are a joke, and 3.73 gears are not low!

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG>Can the graphic Patty, its getting old.</STRONG>


I'm hurt

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by Snoopy:
<STRONG>Thats for darn sure. Here is why I visit the BB - good ol IHC guys, less swearing, at times there are interesting threads, watch out for flamers.

Here is why I come to the Pirate 4x4 page. More hard-core wheelers, better pictures, interesting creations and the like.

I think they both are a great resource, but for different things.

D</STRONG>


Snoop dog is in the house!!!
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Ben says I can't post my Hooper graphic anymore or it would be right here.

[Shadow man]

Well DAMIAN, AKA "Snoopy" I see you made it over to the Dark Side <IMG SRC="smilies/vader.gif" border="0"> No Bill T isnt a god here. He can play one on his site. "Thats why I like it here". Old Scout, I think he was smelling exaust and it was way rich. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Hooper:
<STRONG>
I'm hurt</STRONG>

Good! <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0">

J/K tell ya what, you can put it under your name, or you can just save it for special occasions. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: 61Scout ]

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG>LMAO, awww. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


First you hurt my feelings, then you laugh at me.

Now I am really hurt.

Hey, shadow man, which SSII is yours again? Only problem with this board is I cannot remember who is driving what cuz of all the goofy names.

Good thing is, folks can be as rude as they like, and not have to be concerned about being ostracized for letting their hair down. And no one takes anyone seriously in any case.

Its like going to two different churches. In one, you have to wear white shirt and a tie, in the other, you just come as you are. Nothing wrong with either. Just depends on your mood. Sometimes you want to go to church without having to get dressed up.

But then, I am just a lesser wheeler. What do I know!!!

I'm going home. Gotta go hang with the boy scouts in my International Scout.

Nice rain, eh western wa's? Or is it just in Lynnwood that it looks like we need another ark?

{Hooper graphic edited out}
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG>Good! <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0">

J/K tell ya what, you can put it under your name, or you can just save it for special occasions. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: 61Scout ]</STRONG>

Oh I see. First you post, so I reply to it, then you go back and change your post after I replied. I see how you are!!!

Now I have to go back and edit my reply!!!!

Naw, not worth the effort!!

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Hooper:
<STRONG>Oh I see. First you post, so I reply to it, then you go back and change your post after I replied. I see how you are!!!
</STRONG>

Whoops. <IMG SRC="smilies/emb.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0">

[Shadow man]

Pat, the moab pics. And I sent you a new pic a few months ago. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

[AgaveHound]

Heh, like an uncle is right. I post the stupid question on the BB cause people there expect them. This seems to be a more serious wheelin' site. I'm a newbie to wheeling. In fact, the only wheeling I've done so far is through the mud to my hunting spot. Lurking here has got me and the wife thinking that it's time to make the Scout a hobby and do a few mods for more serious fun. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> What a woman! <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> Everytime she walks in the garage and see the Scout sitting on stands she starts bitchin at me to finish it up... <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> Maybe next summer... <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

[AgaveHound]

HAH! Almost forgot, this site is a lot more fun. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Jeepdude_Jay]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> If there was a scoutsunlimited.com I'd say it was too SU-ish.

</STRONG>
That was exactly my first thought when I saw the title of this thread. The BB is the JU of the Scout world.

I have to say too, this is the most posts I've seen in a day on the IH page. <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

Jay

[R O]

I like both sites but I'm spending more time here lately.I think after surfing the BB for about 2 years or so I was getting a little bored like some of ya'll have said but I expect the same thing will happen here eventually.Hopefully both sites will remain up as they are equally useful for different reasons.

[Old Scout]

I'll go back to the BB when they get posts like this!: http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=14&t=006147


<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

Originally posted by Jeepdude_Jay:
<STRONG>
That was exactly my first thought when I saw the title of this thread. The BB is the JU of the Scout world.

Jay</STRONG>

Come on, I know the BB is bad, but as bad as JU. Shit, how posts a day on JU involve a chrome accessory, and a question about the difference between Metric and SAE wrench sizes. At least the BB guys can answer questions about engine rebuilds, and other really tech questions.

Joe

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by jdjanda:
<STRONG>Come on, I know the BB is bad, but as bad as JU. Shit, how posts a day on JU involve a chrome accessory, and a question about the difference between Metric and SAE wrench sizes. At least the BB guys can answer questions about engine rebuilds, and other really tech questions.

Joe</STRONG>

No such thing as a chrome accssory for a scout! No body makes them. If they did there would be a ton of talk about them. As far as engines yea perhaps only 10 guys know there salt about engines over there.

[jdjanda]

You wanna see how bad JU is, follow this link to the HardCore Offroadin section at JU, which by the way only has two active links
JU HardCore (http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000280.html) . Read the posts and count the number of times poser is used. <IMG SRC="smilies/clown.gif" border="0">

Joe

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>No such thing as a chrome accssory for a scout! No body makes them. If they did there would be a ton of talk about them. As far as engines yea perhaps only 10 guys know there salt about engines over there.</STRONG>

You can buy chrome valve covers - or finned aluminum ones if you want.

I've seen powder-coated thermostat housings, chrome alts, chrome air filter housings, diff covers..

But then, my rig won "Best Use of Plating" at RMIHR this year. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

All 20 lug nuts, the air filter, the dented chrome gas cap, the tailgate button, and the chrome spoke steerin' wheel.

Back Country Binders sells aluminum diamond plate rocker covers..

Plenty of foo-foo dress-up stuff out there if you really want some, OldScout. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Heck, Lund makes visors for Scouts, too!

[HooperSSII]

BCB sells this really pretty shiny stainless steel tie rod, also. Got one on my rig. I get under there and polish that rod all the time.

That is the second pc of shiny stuff I have. The first pc was the nice shiny chrome fuel pump plate I put on when I rebuilt the engine. I get under there and polish that sucker all the time too. It is important that it is shiny so the fuel stays cooler. It also helps air flow off the radiator. Makes it move faster so the coolant gets cooled more efficiently. Helps prevent the infamous bow wave effect, and the damaging engine compartment pressure buildup.

[Old Scout]

TOM I looked thru Summit truck catalog and PAW and Super Scout and Scout Madness, 4WPW and nope no chrome stuff at all! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

Does chrome help the Jeep Dana 30 axles slide over rocks? <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

[troutbum]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>I'll go back to the BB when they get posts like this!: http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=14&t=006147

</STRONG>


Aww come awn, you must of missed this beauty.

aka what are those springy things? (http://atlas.binderbulletin.org/cgi-bin/webbbs/techtalk.cgi?noframes;read=158199) <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[JoshC]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>No such thing as a chrome accssory for a scout! No body makes them. If they did there would be a ton of talk about them. As far as engines yea perhaps only 10 guys know there salt about engines over there.</STRONG>

I almost feel bad contributing this, but... http://atlas.binderbulletin.org/cgi-bin/webbbs/techtalk.cgi?noframes;read=158880

--Josh

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>TOM I looked thru Summit truck catalog and PAW and Super Scout and Scout Madness, 4WPW and nope no chrome stuff at all! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> ScoutPro has the finned aluminum and chromed valve covers.

Super Truck Accessories (now defunct) carried Bras, powder-coated goodies, bug-shields, etc. I think they had the chromed valve covers, too.

JCWhitney sells the Lund visors for the Scout II!

Let's not forget chrome "SSII" Jeep mirrors.. JCWhitney has those, too.

I haven't found any chrome "IH" hitch covers yet. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

There was a guy at NWBRU that had grafted Dodge RAM tail-lights into his SII - along with the icky tail-light covers. It was actually a pretty popular rig. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

I acn appreciate the workmanship, etc.. but I think those tail-light covers are <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> when they're on the truck they came with - won't catch me trying to add something like that to any of MY rigs.

[u2slow]

Originally posted by JoshC:
<STRONG>A couple of you guys in this IH section of POR, are way more experienced than the bolt-on crouds in the other sections.</STRONG>

[JoshC]

Originally posted by u2slow:
<STRONG>Originally posted by JoshC:
A couple of you guys in this IH section of POR, are way more experienced than the bolt-on crouds in the other sections.</STRONG>

Uh, oh. I smell trouble! I got my seatbelt on. --Josh

[Tony Sobrito]

Come on guys, the binder bulletin has served a purpose for many of us. And for those who were able to get it done without the BB good for you. I have spoken my mind over there before and will here too. As far as Bill T being a "god" I have never taken it that way. Lets face it, he has done a tremendous service to the IH community over the last few years. Look at whats going on here at Pirates, more good stuff getting done. And some one on some other board will be calling Lance or who ever started this board a god there. So what! They have all done good. I am here now to learn about the new next generation of hard core wheeling rigs. It just so happens scouts were way cheap when I got started. Who knows what the next 10 yrs will bring.
Tony scout II, t19 wide, dana 3004to1's, 39.5 swampers, dana 60/14 bolt 4.56 detroits

[ihman]

I have a solution for you all....if you don't like the BB, don't go!! <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> Its that easy! <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

By the by, I like both boards, they both have there place and have good info..
If I had a $1 for every post I've read about wanting to put Chevy running gear under their Scout or something.. that I've already answered in the archives 30 times.. I could finally afford my winch
I have to admit, I'm one of the idiots that posted about putting chev/gm axles under the scout...so <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

later...and I look forward to asking many more dumbass question on this board and the others.... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: 76scouter ]

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Coolih:
<STRONG>Come on guys, the binder bulletin has served a purpose for many of us.
</STRONG>

G'afternoon Tony S. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

..and before the Binder Bulletin, there was the IHC Digest, which is still in existance. I still remember the old "balltown.cma.com" days. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<STRONG>
he has done a tremendous service to the IH community over the last few years.
</STRONG>

AGREED! And at times I think he's done more than he originally intended, gettin' himself on the hook for doing still more. It's hard to get any wrenching done on your Scout when you have such a busy (and often cranky) website to maintain..

<STRONG>
It just so happens scouts were way cheap when I got started. Who knows what the next 10 yrs will bring.
</STRONG>

I see lots of XJs in the future!

<STRONG>
Tony scout II, t19 wide, dana 3004to1's, 39.5 swampers, dana 60/14 bolt 4.56 detroits</STRONG>

Now there's a Scout that belongs in the "Baddest Scout" thread. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

-Tom

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by 76scouter:
<STRONG>
I have to admit, I'm one of the idiots that posted about putting chev/gm axles under the scout...so <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

later...and I look forward to asking many more dumbass question on this board and the others.... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

</STRONG>

I never called anyone an idiot. It wasn't that long ago that I was the guy asking a hundred questions a day... but the archives exist for research so old topics don't get re-hashed without some NEW information brought in. I've done a number of "link" searches on POR, too. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Come to RMIHR or NWBRU and you can look over my rig and see how to, or not to, get it done.

I can talk for hours. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

[Tony Sobrito]

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
<STRONG>Now there's a Scout that belongs in the "Baddest Scout" thread. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

-Tom</STRONG>

Actually I was thinking about a new thread:

"baddest scout still on jackstands"

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Coolih:
<STRONG>Actually I was thinking about a new thread:

"baddest scout still on jackstands"</STRONG>

LOL! That reminds me of something we saw on our way through Eastern Washington..

Michelle asked "What is that??" in front of his - I couldn't quite tell.

It was a little truck body (seemed, anyhow) - S-Blazer-ish, or S-pickup, whatever.

It was sitting pretty high, like it was on stilts, but it had these little itty bitty tires on it..

Got closer. Sure 'nuff, it was a Monster Truck on little donuts on the trailer. I guess the good tires were in the Ryder truck towing the trailer.

Just an awfully funny sight to see that much coil-over shock with no tire near it.

[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: tsm1mt ]

[jdjanda]

I am beginning to feel that you must be God like to own a Scout....

God Dammit I broke my F**N steering box

Bill T is a God for putting up with all the BCB comments and Chevy swap Q's on the BB.

Tom you're a God, have you seen the pics of his garage on his web site, God Damm nice garage.

Josh C, you're a God Damm good spotter.

And for the rest of us, No God Dammit it's not a F**N Jeep, and yes the Dana 44's are stock... <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by jdjanda:
<STRONG>I am beginning to feel that you must be God like to own a Scout....

God Dammit I broke my F**N steering box
</STRONG>

How did you break your steering box? Of all the things.. (knock on wood) I haven't busted wonnadoze yet.

<STRONG>
Tom you're a God, have you seen the pics of his garage on his web site, God Damm nice garage.
</STRONG>

It WILL BE a darn nice garage if I ever get it done! Certainly not worth of God-like status just for that tho'. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Heck, I don't even have the web-cam installed yet. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I just finally got the siding mostly done last week.. still wiring, soffit/facia, insulating the interior, and then moving all of my tools back inside.. and hookin' up 'da heat before the snow sets in! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

But, first.. I have to get the clutch m/c rebuilt on my Travelette tonight so I can go racing this weekend. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/jpg/garage/8_19_2001/garage17.jpg

[HooperSSII]

I don't think anyone is really picking on the BB. Different forum, different people (some overlap) different rules, different attitude.

I think the two boards show the two faces of the IH world. On the one hand, we will bend over backward to be nice, considerate, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, oops, that is the boy scout oath, not the IH scout oath, but it still applies.

On the other hand, many folks have a bit more of an in your face attitude, where we like to razz and harrass one another. That is not appropriate for the BB, so it goes on here. Great. Seems like the best of both worlds.

If you have a question, post to both, or all three, or all four, or whatever. No one is bothered. There is not better or worse board. Just different forums, different styles.

However, the attitude on this board tends to keep the more elementary types of questions away. That is good, in that more complicated things can be talked about, like which board is better, but on the other hand, some folks might leave the IH scene all together if they do not understand the *rules* of this forum - i.e. take nothing and no one seriously.

I have gotten some good answers to questions on both boards. I usually post my questions to both boards, and I spend time on both boards.

So, I don't think this is a vs thread as in x against y, rather it is a compare contrast thread. No disrespect meant to either board, or anyone.

Lance and others have worked very hard on this board, Bill and others have worked very hard on the other. Both boards work well. Both boards get the job done. Both board provide a huge service.

Some folks will like one board better than another. Great. Diversity is good. Be pretty boring if everyone was as boring as me.

Patrick

[Shadow man]

Hey 76 scouter <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> You dont have to worry about me visiting that board. I left when it was starting to get really <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">!! On this board board shit gets done! Not discussed to death because you insuated about installing a none I-H part and you stepped on some uptight bastards toes by mistake. <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">

[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: Shadow man ]

[JoshC]

Originally posted by Shadow man:
<STRONG>Hey 76 scouter <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">
[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: Shadow man ]</STRONG>

Whoa! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> A bad ass attitude to go with that bad ass rig <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

--Josh

[Shadow man]

I've got issues that I don't deal with very well! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by Shadow man:
<STRONG>I've got issues that I don't deal with very well! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


Hehehe. I would think that with the size of your rig, youcould just drive right over those issues!!!!!!!!!!
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/jpg/garage/8_19_2001/garage17.jpg

Tom is that a Chebie in front of your garage? I did not tear off my box, just using that as an example. I can tell the P.O. installed a remaned box, that crapped out after less than a year. The box was leaking fluid from the shaft so bad it was leaving a bigger puddle on the ground than my auto, and you could grab the pitman arm and move the shaft side to side in the housing. <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

[camo]

LOL well it's nice to see so much activity on OUR IH tech forum. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[Hayraker]

<IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> warrior?

[Shadow man]

Its a <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> thing I DON'T want to understand! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ihman]

Shadow I'm glad to hear you won't be visiting the BB, you've just learned to deal with one of, I'm sure, your many issues <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">

[camo]

Originally posted by Hayraker:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> warrior?</STRONG>

it's a long story. basically i battle to keep this BB from becoming <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0">

[Hayraker]

FIGHT ON BROTHER!!

[Shadow man]

HOORAY for Camo! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

[scouter77]

Originally posted by Camo bender:
<STRONG>it's a long story. basically i battle to keep this BB from becoming <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Go work your magic in the jeep section! Man is it <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> in there! I like to read it for all its other features... SteveN is getting a beating and I think kind of gave in (As well as others) about how JU-ish it has become! <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0"> I know nothing like that will ever happen in this forum because of the lack of trendiness of the IH <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>I know nothing like that will ever happen in this forum because of the lack of trendiness of the IH <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Amen brother
<IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0">

Joe

[scouter77]

Not that its not a good thing <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[Joe V]

Speaking of chrome Scout parts. I hear you can buy a chrome winch cable, chrome axle shafts & chrome u-joints at ChromeScoutPartsAre <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> .com

[jdjanda]

Chrome muffler bearings

[Hayraker]

chrome ring & pinions.

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by jdjanda:
<STRONG>
Tom is that a Chebie in front of your garage?
</STRONG>

Yep, but it's BEHIND the garage. '68 1/2T 2wd (4 coils!). Only a 250-6 with 3- on the tree but it also has the electronic overdrive.

My mom's pickup. Used mostly for dump runnin' (you think I'd use my IH Pickup for that?? LOL) but lately daily-driver after my sister borrowed her car and smoked the head n' gasket ("Y'know, there's a temp gauge over there that you're supposed to look at from time to time.. and that's BEFORE the car just up n' quits..") since my mom's '74 Scout II needs a kit in the 727.

There's an '84 Sportster inside the garage, too. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Here, is this better? It's the "curb-side" of the new shop, just not a very good picture:

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/jpg/garage/8_19_2001/garage01.jpg

<STRONG>The box was leaking fluid from the shaft so bad it was leaving a bigger puddle on the ground than my auto, and you could grab the pitman arm and move the shaft side to side in the housing.</STRONG>

The one on my race truck leaks pretty badly.. but I just fill it up, run it, and fill it up the next weekend. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: tsm1mt ]

[camo]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>Go work your magic in the jeep section! Man is it <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> in there! I like to read it for all its other features... SteveN is getting a beating and I think kind of gave in (As well as others) about how JU-ish it has become! <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0"> I know nothing like that will ever happen in this forum because of the lack of trendiness of the IH <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

LOL hey i have my hands full with the general 4x4 and toyota boards. we have had a huge invasion of newbies around here who just don't get it.

[HooperSSII]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>Go work your magic in the jeep section! Man is it <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> in there! I like to read it for all its other features... SteveN is getting a beating and I think kind of gave in (As well as others) about how JU-ish it has become! <IMG SRC="smilies/scary.gif" border="0"> I know nothing like that will ever happen in this forum because of the lack of trendiness of the IH <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


WHAT??? My SSII is not trendy??? Who have you been talking to? My rig is the coolest thing out there. Much better than those dime a dozen jeeps and toys, an

Hey, stop it. Its not time for my medicine yet. Stop it. Stop i... ahhhhhhh. never mind <IMG SRC="smilies/sleep.gif" border="0">

[Scoutillac]

Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>LOL hey i have my hands full with the general 4x4 and toyota boards. we have had a huge invasion of newbies around here who just don't get it.</STRONG>

WOW, Camo on the farm equipment board <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> We are all honored <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0">

[camo]

hey my very first rig in 1981 was a good ol binder. man i loved that thing and wish i still had it. since then i have had 2 others. and would love to have one right now, as a matter of fact i am always on the look out for one.

[Scoutillac]

Damn, I would have never guessed <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I won't trade my binder for anything, I'll just keep cutting sheet metal off till I'm happy <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Your rig finished??? do tell <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

Scoutillac, you need some more chrome for that Scout, I have dual chrome real imitation cell phone antennas. You interested? Maybe a trade for somethin shinny for my Scout <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Joe

[Scoutillac]

Originally posted by jdjanda:
<STRONG>Scoutillac, you need some more chrome for that Scout, I have dual chrome real imitation cell phone antennas. You interested? Maybe a trade for somethin shinny for my Scout <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Joe</STRONG>

I'm will be pretty well set on the chrome soon, my drivelines and roll cage are gettin chromed this weekend
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Scoutillac:
<STRONG>I'm will be pretty well set on the chrome soon, my drivelines and roll cage are gettin chromed this weekend
<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

You're just jealous I won best plating. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

So when does it get the new <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> paint job? That's why it's going up 'North again, right? you're jealous of Lance's <IMG SRC="smilies/rainbow.gif" border="0"> tank..

[scouter77]

Originally posted by camo:
<STRONG>LOL hey i have my hands full with the general 4x4 and toyota boards. we have had a huge invasion of newbies around here who just don't get it.</STRONG>

No shit? http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=012969

BTW bwahahahaha Just tought I would take one more cheap one for the pic under your rainbows...

[mpietz]

I like the BB too, but some of the tech stuff gets so rehashed and rehashed, it reminds me of the prison joke, where at night they would call out jokes by number, they had heard them all so many times before - you know, "17!", and everyone busted up, etc. But still good stuff on the BB.

POR works for me 'cause I live within a couple of hours of the Rubicon, and all those wonderful trails. Works for me.

<IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

I don't know why certain people feel that they have to push their lifestyle everywhere they go. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> What next, a lavender ribbon for the Scout?

You don't have to have been in the Navy to know that it just makes sense to carry two soap bars into the showers. <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> Guess I'll have to carry them each time I log on.


<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

Originally posted by Old Paint:
<STRONG>
POR works for me 'cause I live within a couple of hours of the Rubicon, and all those wonderful trails. Works for me.
</STRONG>

OP you wheel that T-All through the Con
<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

Joe D <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

[mpietz]

Well, uh, no, I won't 'wheel the T'all through the 'Con. I am temporarily Scoutless. I recently acquired the THE BEAST, and had to sell off my Scout as I own too many other cars to keep up on the insurance, etc. I am beginning to build a trail rig (have everything but a tub), which will be, of course, a Scout.

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Old Paint:
<STRONG>Well, uh, no, I won't 'wheel the T'all through the 'Con. I am temporarily Scoutless. I recently acquired the THE BEAST, and had to sell off my Scout as I own too many other cars to keep up on the insurance, etc. I am beginning to build a trail rig (have everything but a tub), which will be, of course, a Scout.</STRONG>

C'mon, Mark. How better to show up the J**pers than to pilot a full-size IH through the 'Con?

Maybe that's how I should finish off my Travelall? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[jdjanda]

OP, funny you should mention the need for a tub. I have been seriously considering ending my 74 project build up, and just parting it out. I have a tub that is almost complete. I replaced pass side floor, parts of the bed, added some angle into the bed to strength the whole thing. The drivers side is cut out, ready for some additional work, then install the new floor. Let me know if your interested, read cheap, I basically have around $140.00 in new sheet metal parts into the tub, and would also consider trades.

Joe <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

[mpietz]

Thanks for the offer, but I have a handle on an acceptable (good enough for a trail rig) tube for around $200! The trail rig will never be a show'n'shine candidate, just a mechanically stout vehicle.

As for your comment, Tom, I had thought of 'wheeling the T'all through the 'con, but I don't have the stomach to watch grown men who own J**ps, burst into tears and soil themselves in shame. Just can't bear it.