more pics from project PITA. Updated the site and made it easier to view the pics. Let me know what you think.

www.extremevehicledesign.com

yep no problems!!! thanks for all the help!:D

lookin good

Lee
- You've only been working on it all summer...When's it going to roll again. I'm sure Ashley is getting tired of sharing her Jeep. You should just sell it and by Mr. Hankey instead...You know...A real 4x4. Dana 30....T-5...All the best equipment. Good luck.

Reed

I didn't see any new pics?

damn i am pretty sure i could have payed off my house by now, with what you have dropped on that rig. it should be sweet but damn. you better just hope it works as well as you have making it out too. i think you might catch a bit of shit from big dude and elf if it is not totaly awsome. mike

I am not still borrowing my sisters jeep reed. I bought a truck a couple of months ago. It will roll when I get time. I am hoping to get the gas tank hooked back up in the bed this weekend and get all the drivetrain filled with fluids so I can spin everything up. I am not worried about what big dude has to say and as far as elf is concerned, ofcourse I will catch shit from that jackass. I would expect no less. That however will have nothing to do with wether or not my truck works well. In the spring I am going to take it out to pheonix and wheel with him and as he put it see what will break!!!

I remember big talk of us going to Moab sometime soon or recently in the past...why no invite? Did you not get it back together?

I'm beginning the think a D44 in the hand is worth 2 rockwells in the bush... :flipoff2:

I'm still waiting for you to answer this one genius :laughing:

Originally posted by jeeper111

I dont have to have driven a truck like the one I am building to know that it can work well because it is physics. You know those laws of the universe that cant be broken and all that bullshit.

Followed by.....

Originally posted by LAME


Ummm, I dont' know much ummm about physics, maybe you could enlighten me on what properties you are relying on to determine a lot of unsprung weight is a good thing. OR that weight is a good thing:rolleyes: :flipoff2:

Please explain it to us Galileo Galilei. Don't run away like every other thread where you get called out :flipoff2:

This might be a dumb fawkin question.... How did you remove your seats from the brackets.

Originally posted by bigdude
Please explain it to us Galileo Galilei. Don't run away like every other thread where you get called out :flipoff2:

Whoa... you just called him Galileo Galilei... I'm impressed. Maybe Da Vinci would been more appropriate though... but who cares, really? :flipoff2:

Fist off, your shit is gay, always has been, always will be. Doesn't matter what you do to it, you will never have a cool rig.

i think you might catch a bit of shit from big dude and elf if it is not totaly awsome. mike

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and as far as elf is concerned, ofcourse I will catch shit from that jackass. I would expect no less. That however will have nothing to do with wether or not my truck works well. In the spring I am going to take it out to pheonix and wheel with him and as he put it see what will break!!!

YUP!!!

I bought a truck a couple of months ago.

Who bought a truck?? I know it was a LEE that bought the truck, but I think you need to go study roman numerals some more. It was not the Lee with the same number as YOU, faggot!


I remember big talk of us going to Moab sometime soon or recently in the past...why no invite? Did you not get it back together?

yes, I was ready to go too, but none of those fawkers got their junk working in time... Stupid Waco punks...

Please explain it to us Galileo Galilei. Don't run away like every other thread where you get called out

Yeah dude, put down the telescope and your star map, and start explaining gravity. He really should have said "Isaac Newton" but whatever... Da Vinci was a better artist than inventor, IMO.

Originally posted by elf_cruiser

Yeah dude, put down the telescope and your star map, and start explaining gravity. He really should have said "Isaac Newton" but whatever... Da Vinci was a better artist than inventor, IMO.

Actually many a college physics professor consider Galileo to be the father of modern physics. Galileo died the year that Newton was born and some of his studies were the building blocks for others interest. It's all a matter of opinion but technically he came first, so I mentioned him. Anything else turd burglar :shaking:

Quit trying to bail him out, I really want his physics explanation. I studied quite a bit of physics in school and personally I consider the concept of traction to be a large energy balance around the particles making up the surface and material providing resistance. I'm a chemical engineer, not some dumbass with a computer, so I'd like to have him back up his claims scientifically. I will in kind provide an energy balance I feel respresents my standpoint (with relevant equations).

First off
I just said unsprung weight because that is the lowest weight on the vehicle. Who cares about unsprung weight, its not like we are baja racers, then it would matter how much weight you had unsprung and building a 150 pound dana 60 would make alot of sense.

My point is not that weight helps you climb. In fact it hurts climbing but that can be over come with more traction and more more power. I am only for weight that helps to lower your center of gravity hence the unsprung weight comment. The reasoning that I am building my truck on is that if you can consistently climb to an angle where you start to roll over backward before you slide, then you have more traction then you do wheel base and more power than you have weight. This is what I am aiming for on my truck. If with 42x15, 109 inch wheelbase, and a 350, I can do this then I wont have a problem. If I cant accelerate uphill then I will add more power. If I slide backward I will go to a bigger contact patch.

My overall point is not that weight is good. As a matter of fact it is bad, but center of gravity is more important because moderate weight can be overcome with more traction and power. I am definitely into dropping weight but I dont want to do it from the axles and other unsprung weight that keep me anchored to the ground. I would rather do it in the form of composite or AL bodies, fully AL motor which I am making plans for in the form of a 383 just to make sure I have that power thing all wrapped up, and anything else up high that I can get rid of or change for lighter parts.

I am really hoping to have a vehicle in the end that is somewhere around 65-70 percent unsprung weight. Lets say that I get it down to 4000 in the end by taking extreme mesures up top. Then it will weight the same as alot of other trucks. But will be able to side hill and to climb extremely steep. remember that center of gravity doesnt just effect side hilling. It also effects the angle at which you can climb. Once again I am not against losing weight, I am just saying that the axles are not the place to lose it and I just said this because rockwells get such a bad wrap for weight.

All of this is why I think Brutus was able to climb that unbelievable ledge in that video clip. Well this and some damn good driving but you know what I mean. That sprint car chassis is light and I bet he has 50-50 or better unsprung weight characteristic on that truck. With a rig like that the center of gravity cant be too far above the pinion. Thats why I asked what the wheel base of that thing was. I was trying to get a sense of the angle it could climb with out pitching over backwards.

If there is anything in what I said that doesn't make perfect sense let me know. I will listen with no more comments or verbal diarhea. Gallileo signing out.

P.S. elf_loser sucks and so do his wussy springs. HAHAHAHA

oh and as far as Gallileo is concerned I have heard what you are talking about. As a matter of fact I have heard it both ways. Gallileo and Issac Newton. I suspect it was a mixture.

ah, pirate chit chat at its finest. ;)