So I have heard that the man with the most toys/guns wins. Although i never have a chance at catching some of you:laughing::laughing:, i am on a search for my next aquisition and i believe that it will be a little snub nose revolver for cc. Wandered into a local gun shop yesterday with the intentions of looking at a taurus, the owner recommended that i stay away from the taurus b/c of the same quality control issues that have been argued to death here and recommended that i take a look at Charter Arms. Actually he recommended a S&W or ruger, but both of those are way too much $$$ for me right now and so he said that the Charters were decent guns for what they cost. I eye-fawked and fondled two different revolvers that he had there and to me (no expert by ANY means) they seems ok. This means that they felt good in my hand and when i pulled the trigger it seemed to function correctly. Like i said, no expert. And i have never owned a revolver, but i have shot a few.

Does anyone have anything to say about the guns? I found a post that i believe was from doc that he had one that mostly revolved about repainting or not. Found some different reviews about their guns online, mostly saying to stay away from certain years but that older and new were ok.

And tell me if my logic makes any sense or I am just an idiot: From what i have found, the .38s that they make are able to handle +p loads, but not recommended to use them very much. Not that i would be shooting +p all the time as practice/range time would be cheap stuff, but it would be good to practice with what i would carry as well. So i am thinking: get the .357 and just shoot the .38 through it as it should be more beefy (also more weight +/-??) and handle the +p with ease. <-- Is there any sense in what i am rambling about or should i just get the .38? Only other advantage of the .357 is that i could indeed shoot the .357 but the .357 that i have previously shot was pretty snappy in a much bigger, heavier ruger and if i damage my wrist and can't masterbate then i don't know what i would do:flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:

guns in question:

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Mag_Pug_73521.html

or

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Undercover_73811.html

I was looking at that same pistol in .38 special! Im planning on picking it up sometime in the next few months. The deciding factor for me on the .38 over the .357 was weight... the .357 is 50% heavier than the .38.

I kinda need a good throw away gun.... just in case I need to dispose of it quickly (hey... shit happens)

Never handled a Charter Arms but I have read from a few people that have been casting bullets for a long time that quite a few came out with oversized cylinder throats compared to the bore, .004-.006 over as I recall. Doesn't really matter for general plinking with jacketed bullets.

I have one from the 60's I'm guessing. It belonged to my great-grandpa. It has the old style grip and is the absolutely the most uncomfortable gun I've ever fired. Decent enough quality, I just hate shooting it. I'm sure the new ones are much more comfortable.

Not mine pictured, but similar.

Was watching the Outdoor Channel last night and they had a special on Charter Arms. Evidently they have had a storied past and changed ownership several times.

Supposedly the original owner bought them back a couple years ago and hass made it his priority to make a quality affordable pistol.

They had the lightweight models with the annodized frames in pink, blue and a cool tiger stripe setup. Said their number one buyer was now women!

:D

They had the lightweight models with the annodized frames in pink, blue and a cool tiger stripe setup. Said their number one buyer was now women!

:D
Niche market, more power to them!

Was watching the Outdoor Channel last night and they had a special on Charter Arms. Evidently they have had a storied past and changed ownership several times.

Supposedly the original owner bought them back a couple years ago and hass made it his priority to make a quality affordable pistol.

They had the lightweight models with the annodized frames in pink, blue and a cool tiger stripe setup. Said their number one buyer was now women!

:D

SWMBO fondled one of the pink revolvers at a gun show a while back and was pretty impressed (I was jealous :D). At the time I didn't want to add another caliber and it wasn't that great of a deal so we passed on it. Should have picked one up instead of her 9mm. I think she would have been happier and I wouldn't have been lead to get into .380 when I did branch out. It appeared to be a well-made gun and the fit in her hand was very good. The booth that had it was run by a woman so they were definitely reaching out to the fairer sex, but she also was pretty knowledgeable about guns in general. Don't often see that.

They're coming out with a 9mm revolver. Kinda interesting.
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I have a Taurus 605 2" .357/38 5 shot ( wife's)
405 tracker 2" 44 mag
709 slim 9mm


No problems with any of them, I must me lucky :shaking:

I have a CA Pathfinder .22 that was my Grandfather's

Locks up tight, shoots great. Great Guns!

They're coming out with a 9mm revolver. Kinda interesting.
Charter and S&W both used to make one, actually.

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Taurus still does.
Rugers and S&W are $600+

The Charter arms looks interesting though. 40 S&W too. Wonder if it would take being modified to 10mm or Even 10mm magnum?

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html
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-It is hard to shoot an alloy frame snub with any kind of accuracy beyond 10'
-2" snubs don't fully extract .357 (You'll have to check with .38).
-2" alloy frame snubs recoil like a Mofo
-Ammo options are limited
-Charter Arms are a ho-hum revolver - not particularly bad, but nothing special either.
That said, I'd go with any of the 3" Ruger or S&W's before that snub. The old Colt detective specials are worth considering also. The extra inch of barrel makes a world of difference when you're actually firing at something. The price you pay is in added weight, but you have a MUCH more shootable revolver that will only go up in value.

Note: 9 mm bullets are .355", they'll shoot from a .38 (.357") barrel but they tend to lead-foul heavily because they don't fully obturate in the oversize rifling.

Note: 9 mm bullets are .355", they'll shoot from a .38 (.357") barrel but they tend to lead-foul heavily because they don't fully obturate in the oversize rifling.
Not in a 9mm moon-clip revolver with a .355 barrel. ;)

Not in a 9mm moon-clip revolver with a .355 barrel. ;)

Sorry made a generalization that doesn't apply to ALL 9 mm revolvers, but it does apply to more than you'd think. Retooling costs money.

get an OLD one or a new one, the name change ones in between are kinda sketchy :laughing:

I have a aluminum framed "red" one, its a nice backpacking/camping gun (thats why I got it in red) it required a bunch of snap-cap dry firing to get the trigger smooth but its quite happy now.

It does its job and is as accurate as a snub nose can be.

I have a stainless, hammerless, bulldog pug in .44 special that I carry pretty regularly. It is very well made and is more accurate than I thought it would be. I had an older blued model that was also well made but I sold it because I wanted the stainless version. I own several different brands of revolvers and in all honesty I would put it up against most of my Smiths and Rugers. It definitely has a better trigger than any of my Smiths did out of the box.

Awesome. Thanks for all the replys. Seems like it should be a pretty decent purchase. I'm gonna do a little shopping around at a few other gun shops to see how they all price out and then will report back with updates and range reports soon

It definitely has a better trigger than any of my Smiths did out of the box.

Are these all newer Smith's? S&W is highly regarded for the triggers in their older revolvers.