Scout 80 vs. 800

[matt72scoutII]

Can anyone help me? I don't really understand what the difference is between the Scout 80 and the Scout 800? Also, what do the letters mean that are after the numbers?

[Scout Dude]

Major differences...(I think):
80-Fold down windshield
800-Std Windshield, Kinda has a dashboard.

I think that the 800 also switched to the center rear diff and model 20 x-case, but I'm not sure.

[jdjanda]

800 had a 304 V-8 option, plus optional rear 44. Plus a differatn raditor mounting to accomadate the V8. The 800A ran through 70, the late 70-71 saw the 800B which was a last minute hold over until the Scout II was ready. 800B's are very rare. Best source for production information is Binder Bulletin

Binder (http://www.binderbulletin.org)

Check out the FAQ section. The boards over there are very tame compared to here, a lot of old timers can provide an enormous amount of info.

Joe <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

[matt72scoutII]

So there isn't really any structural difference except for the winshield?

[JoshC]

Originally posted by matt72scoutII:
<STRONG>So there isn't really any structural difference except for the winshield?</STRONG>

Correct. In fact my 80 had a rear D44. If the price is right, just GET IT! --Josh

[matt72scoutII]

Did it come with the 44 stock?

[JoshC]

Originally posted by matt72scoutII:
<STRONG>Did it come with the 44 stock?</STRONG>
Yes, but the licence plate frame says Travis AFB Motors. It's likely that it's military a military option.

[matt72scoutII]

did the army use many scouts?

[JoshC]

Originally posted by matt72scoutII:
<STRONG>did the army use many scouts?</STRONG>

um, I don't know, and AFB aint the Army! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by matt72scoutII:
<STRONG>So there isn't really any structural difference except for the winshield?</STRONG>

Yes n' no. From the outside, they're pretty similar and I bet outer fenders n' such would swap over.

The 80s and early 800s used a "swing" type door handle, the later 800s (my GF's 68) used a push-button door handle.

The 80s all had Dana 18s (or were 2wd) with the offset rear. D27 front/rear for the most part.

A 4cyl Scout 800 and a Scout 80 are pretty similar, with the 800 having the Dana 20 and centered rear diff. 800s had the 4spd option. 800s had a 152 or 196 option, Scout 80s had ONLY the 152.

LOTS more differences in the I6/V8 S800s. Radiator moved, steering is different, and the tapered '44 rear with the V8s (and probably the 6s, but I've never looked)

IIRC, the 800 was 67-69-ish. The 800A was around 1970, the 800B was a '71 model.

800A got round side-markers. I'm not sure what else they upgraded. The 800B has rectangular markers.

80/800 have no side markers up front.

Those are probably the major differences.. along with the fold-down windshield, tho' my friend's '71 800B has a fold-down! It's a pretty nice rig with a 304/T18 and 3.73 gears.

-Tom
'68 800 w/ '75SII 304/closeT19 and 4.27s (GF's)
'68 800 - orig I6, now a stripped tub..
'72, '74, '77, '77, '79 Scout IIs, plus the Truck n' T'all..

[matt72scoutII]

AF, Army... they are all military.

[NotQuiteSane]

Originally posted by matt72scoutII:
<STRONG>Can anyone help me? I don't really understand what the difference is between the Scout 80 and the Scout 800? Also, what do the letters mean that are after the numbers?</STRONG>

the 800 also had seat belts and tandem master cylinders

[matt72scoutII]

Tandem master cylinders??

[NotQuiteSane]

Originally posted by matt72scoutII:
<STRONG>Tandem master cylinders??</STRONG>

Pop open the cover to your MC. notice how it has 2 sections? if you trace the lines from each you'll notice each section goes to 2 wheels. never traced on a scout, but standard is one front, opposite rear. this way if a brake line fails, you still have 2 wheels to stop with.

Joe

[scoutman]

Not all 800s have tandem masters. I for one have a single master. I have a '66 800. I think that around '69 or '70 is when the tandem master came out. Needless to say I cann't wait to put in the Scout II master, and dana 44s

[Overkiller]

The firewall on 80s is a lot different then the 800s. I was looking at a clean 80 body to but to swap on for the fold down windsheild, but the firewall would have required major surgery to fit my 345. I'd love to see a pic of the 800B with the fold down windsheild. I've been thinking of modifying mine and need to do some R&D (rip off and duplicate) <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Travis