I am sure this topic has been covered...but I have a pretty specific question. I have a bunch of stock YJ springs both front and rear, as well as a set of 4 pro comp 4" leaves. I am planning on doing a spring over on my YJ and want to run tires that are 38" or so. My question is what springs or combination of leaves should I use? I was thinking about using the main leafs from the pro comps and then some from the stockers. Mix and match them. Does this seem like it would work...and flex well??

Dan

If it mine I would go with the 4" Pro Comp springs, I have stock YJ springs on my CJ and I clear 34's all the time and with a little fender trimming I could clear 36's. With 4" springs and a spring over you should be able to get over 38's pretty good.

John

If youre hearts set on using stock springs I say the 4" pro comp...

But if you don't mind buying new ones get some 44044s all around. You can run 38s easily with some fender choppin and a the same time you can extend your wheelbase.

Only problem they dont bolt on (obviously)...I'm sure you have welding skills etc so it shouldnt be too hard for ya.

use 4inch Superlift softride springs, and dont put any body lift on, and you will easilly clear 38's

How about some measurements for the 44044 springs? Total length, distance to center pin, etc. These are Rancho springs if I remember correctly...where is the best place to get them?

I don't mind doing some fender trimming either...would rather keep it lower and trim than lift more to clear the tires.

Dan

Search 44044 and SOA, you'll get more info than you ever wanted. They are only about a inch longer, maybe 2. You can bolt them up on a YJ. In the rear however if you have a axle swap, which you better if you are running 38" you will need to move the gas tank. In the front, some people have problems with the steering, on a shackle reversal and 44044 swap, and need to relocate the steering box forward, a couple inches. Again search, every possible question you have on waggy springs and soa has been covered at least 3x.

Ben

how about doing what everyone else does?

start with some configuration - test it out

don't like it, try something else

I have the JC whitney 5 leaf waggy springs. before that I had stock YJ with doubled mains. My springs are pretty close to flat.

I run 38.5 SXs. 1 inch body. 5 inch shackles.

So if you run close to flat springs, like they would be with stockers, I can tell you that you will have to totally flat fender your front, and at that point your tire will just have enough clearance. Out back, you will have to open up the wheel well, but clearance at the TOP of the opening is not really an issue.

Because I use the waggy springs, I can't comment on clearance at the BACK of the front wheelwell - my axle's 2 inches forward. So you might have to watch clearance there.

If you get more lift by mixing and matching, then you will not need to trim as much, but you will still need to trim some, I suspect.

If you use waggy sized springs, your front axle will have clearance at the back of the wheel well. Your rear axle will need the wheel opening opened up towards the back. Depending on which axles you use, you might have problems with the pitman arm hitting the front diff cover and/or the rear diff hitting the gas tank skid plate. These problems are of course alleviated with more lift.

A lot of guys are running the 44044s with 38s with good results. Do a search you should find plenty. pm me if you want more info about my personal setup. Hope this helps.

Chad

4" lifts springs SOA is :rainbow: Way too fucking tall. Although they seem trival to most guys on here, use bump stops. Other than that do what Mo said:flipoff2:

Originally posted by LAME
4" lifts springs SOA is :rainbow: Way too fucking tall. Although they seem trival to most guys on here, use bump stops. Other than that do what Mo said:flipoff2:

nah.. it ain't :rainbow: it's :massey:

:flipoff2:

I liked my Pro Crap 4 iunch SOA setup, but I got sick and tiored of shanging rear springs. 3 sets of rear springs in 6 trips.....averaging 2 trips a pair...:rainbow: Get a wrap bar that doesnt break ;)

Originally posted by Mo


nah.. it ain't :rainbow: it's :massey:

:flipoff2:

:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by jeepboyben
In the rear however if you have a axle swap, which you better if you are running 38" you will need to move the gas tank.
Ben

So according to you, I needed to move my gas tank about 6 months and 5 trail rides ago. Interesting how i didn't but haven't "needed" to like you said.....

STFU newbie and don't repeat that misinformation again :flipoff2:


Do your own research "dcmsu". That's half the fun. Come back later and tell us something you learned. It's :rainbow: when you ask to be spoonfed how to build your rig.

I am running stock YJ springs on fullsize Chevy axles and clearing 36's on my CJ-7. Rubs a bit in flex, but minor fender trimming will fix that. The size of the axle and the height of your center of gravity are key concerns you need to figure out. If you are running a large axle then you may want to go with a shorter spring or you want a lower center of gravity (body trimming possibly required for flex) you might look into a 2.5" lift spring. If you just want to go big then the 4" springs would work quite well and probably clear your tires with no trimming required.

run the Pro comp main leaf, cut the eyes off of the stock 5leaf main and bolt it and the rest of the pack to the pro comp and run that. You will have a longer main leaf that will sit just about flat, and with some minor fender trimming you should be able to run 38's. If it's not tall enough put in bump stops. This way you will keep your COG low and have plenty of flex. One thing I have found out with this config is your going to need skid plates cause you will drag over stuff more than a Massey rig.

BTW... Where is massey? He sold his junk and ran for the border or what?

Originally posted by Rokmycj
run the Pro comp main leaf, cut the eyes off of the stock 5leaf main and bolt it and the rest of the pack to the pro comp and run that. You will have a longer main leaf that will sit just about flat, and with some minor fender trimming you should be able to run 38's. If it's not tall enough put in bump stops. This way you will keep your COG low and have plenty of flex. One thing I have found out with this config is your going to need skid plates cause you will drag over stuff more than a Massey rig.

BTW... Where is massey? He sold his junk and ran for the border or what?

That is the best idea yet!!!!!! Hey Joe....you still need that pully? Call me :flipoff2:

Originally posted by bigdude


So according to you, I needed to move my gas tank about 6 months and 5 trail rides ago. Interesting how i didn't but haven't "needed" to like you said.....


Bigdude, if you are able to run 44044 springs in the rear, with your 14bolt, and not hit the gas tank then goody for you.:flipoff2: Most people have to move it. I think it's better to prepare him for that possibility than to ignore it all together.

Originally posted by jeepboyben


Bigdude, if you are able to run 44044 springs in the rear, with your 14bolt, and not hit the gas tank then goody for you.:flipoff2: Most people have to move it. I think it's better to prepare him for that possibility than to ignore it all together.

Maybe most people just move it because they get bad information :idea: before they ever actually wheel it to find out.

My point is that you shouldn't say he "needs" to do something, Especially if it's only a possibility, especially if you haven't done it yourself, especially if you are going on heresay, and especially when someone can flat out call BS on you because they haven't done the thing you say they would "need" to do, they have wheeled their vehicle very hard (including competition), and they haven't had a problem.

Suggesting something as a possibility is one thing, saying someone "needs" to do something is entirely different. So :flipoff2: