: line locks


SMART ASS
10-07-2002, 12:31 AM
Line locks used as a independand brake system?

Say each brake (4 brakes - one each wheel) had its own hydrolic line lock, could that be a simple independant brake system for assisted steering when wheeln? much like some of the pro's run a independant rear brake system for assisted manuvering...

would it work? or just fukup the hydro braking system?

uglyscout
10-07-2002, 05:42 AM
It 'might work' if you had disc brakes all around and used quailty line locks. You'd still need a twin stick set up and all that jazz but you could probably get it to pivot around one tire on a corner when turing.

patooyee
10-07-2002, 01:02 PM
I thoght that was the whole idea. I mean, I thought that's what everyone was doing anyway ... at least that's what I had planned. Was I missing something?

J. J.

T1H5_TA3
10-07-2002, 03:09 PM
hasnt there been atleast one post about line locks a month so far this year?

Scoutaholic
10-07-2002, 04:27 PM
Yes that's exactly how it works. Most I think only lock the rears individually if they have a ARB or equivalent. If you have a mechanical locker just use one lock for both rear wheels. Not sure what good locking the fronts would be, I never thought much about it.
Still need a twin stick in any case.:)

SMART ASS
10-07-2002, 05:53 PM
If your open diff rear why twin stick? just lock up the tire thats spinning free and / or the desired locked wheel and GO

Originally posted by Scoutaholic
Yes that's exactly how it works. Most I think only lock the rears individually if they have a ARB or equivalent. If you have a mechanical locker just use one lock for both rear wheels. Not sure what good locking the fronts would be, I never thought much about it.
Still need a twin stick in any case.:)

patooyee
10-07-2002, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by SMART ASS
If your open diff rear why twin stick? just lock up the tire thats spinning free and / or the desired locked wheel and GO



Who's open dif these days? More importantly, who would need line locks that had an open dif? Or are you just talking about ARB?

In any case, I could see the advatage of being able to pivot on a front corner. Say in a u-turn situation: Just put a front tire next to the cone, lock it up, unlock that hub, let the rest of your tires pivot you. It would even work with a welded dif (like mine) and no twin-stick. Am I the only one who has ever thought of this??? Folks are talking about it in this thread like it's something new. :confused:

J. J.

broncorob
10-08-2002, 08:07 AM
Yeah, but what a pain in the ass to get out and unlock the hubs. It's alot easier to pivot on a rear tire. If you lock a front tire you've got 2 tires pushing straight ahead. If you lock a rear you've got one pushing straight forward and the 2 fronts pulling in the turning direction.

Scott@Rockstomper
10-08-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by broncorob
Yeah, but what a pain in the ass to get out and unlock the hubs. It's alot easier to pivot on a rear tire. If you lock a front tire you've got 2 tires pushing straight ahead. If you lock a rear you've got one pushing straight forward and the 2 fronts pulling in the turning direction.

...And so far, in my (admittedly limited) experience with this one... the three tires that are still churning forward, will overcome the brake on the locked one, or overcome the traction (whichever gives up first--with 44's, it's my brakes that can't fight the traction) and drag the truck forward anyway.

Word is, with an Atlas, or similar setup, where you can unhook the entire rear end, it's much more effective. I can unlock the rear ARB, but can't unhook the rear output from the case, so it's less effective for me.

SMART ASS
10-08-2002, 09:22 AM
Thanx for your prespective, i run 35's not 44's too much beef for me, or should i say $$$....


-smart ass

Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper


...And so far, in my (admittedly limited) experience with this one... the three tires that are still churning forward, will overcome the brake on the locked one, or overcome the traction (whichever gives up first--with 44's, it's my brakes that can't fight the traction) and drag the truck forward anyway.

Word is, with an Atlas, or similar setup, where you can unhook the entire rear end, it's much more effective. I can unlock the rear ARB, but can't unhook the rear output from the case, so it's less effective for me.

broncorob
10-08-2002, 09:32 AM
So what, we all run different size tires but the forces and net results are usually similar

Originally posted by SMART ASS
Thanx for your prespective, i run 35's not 44's too much beef for me, or should i say $$$....


-smart ass

Scott@Rockstomper
10-08-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by SMART ASS
Thanx for your prespective, i run 35's not 44's too much beef for me, or should i say $$$....

Then the three churning tires will probably overcome the traction available on the fourth, and you'll drag the fourth tire forward, locked and skidding. That's what I meant when I said "whichever gives up first"... with smaller tires, the brakes will hold, but the traction won't.

patooyee
10-08-2002, 01:22 PM
Even if you're dragging that front tire, you'r still going to pivot around it, only slower. And as far as unlocking hubs, that's what spotters are for. :D

J. J.

SMART ASS
10-08-2002, 06:06 PM
theirs only ONE WAY TO FIND OUT... DO IT :D