: 97' tacoma body/engine on 84' chassis


D-nAsTy-MaX
02-17-2010, 09:50 PM
okay, i have i have a 96' tacoma 4x4 standard cab shortbed with the 2.7L 3rz 4cyl. has warped frame!!! and i have a 84' toyota pickup 4x4 standard cab longbed, the 84 has 4" skyjacker springs... soft been riddin on for years, 4.10's in the factory toy axles, welded rear, open front, and a refreshed transmission and clutch, as well it had a 22r in it but was pulled for rebuild and not put back in! this is what the owner of the 84' told me!

i want to put this 96' tacoma cab and front clip and 3rz engine on the 84' chassis then do a cab exo-cage tied into tubed,caged bed with the bobbed dovetailed cut tacoma bedsides fenders attatched to it!! run 40's on 17 black soft 8' steelies, add longtravel bilstein shock setup front and rear, detroit locker and longfield superset up front, dual 23 spline cases with 2.28 and 4.7then maybe more later....

what will it take to mate this 96' tacoma 4 cyl. to my 84' transmission?? anything else important i need to know besides playing with body mounts for cab and front clip???

i am a newbie to the toyota wheeler world! i searched for info. on this but no luck! the guy doin the work has done his entire toyota truggy himself started as a 80's toyota like mine but became a tubed 4 linked buggy with bored/stroked 22re in it running on propane! he said his only worry with the swap he knew of was making sure the 96' tacoma 4 cyl could bolt to 84' transmission

please help ready to start this project immediately!!

feel free to call/text me 828 506 6070

thanks,
kevin

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-18-2010, 10:31 AM
come on guys really need some input

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-18-2010, 12:00 PM
sorry guys thread title says 97' tacoma its a 96', i found a thread on marlin crawler about swappin the tacoma 4cyl. 3rz into 85, said on ther that the trans in those models, a w56, g52, and g54 (which i beleive i have the g54) could all bolt up to 3rz by using the 3rz bellhousing that has a drivers-side clutch and starter, this true?? also it stated that the tacoma pump, sender and lines could be used with the 84' carb'd tank! or could jus use the tacoma tank which i have cause i have a complete 96' tacoma! so really it's as simple as swapping the tacoma body, 3rz engine, and fuel tank and lines over to my 84' chassis, it said the tacoma engine mounts could be mated to the 84' chassis mounts with a little mod! looked very simple! and that the cab/front-clip mounts coud be easily adjusted on the 84 chassis to take the 96' tacoma cab/front-clip

so am i set???

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-18-2010, 02:37 PM
come on can anyone with knowledge in this area back me up on this??

generalee7
02-18-2010, 02:45 PM
I don't know! Maybe the bellhousing idea will work! Only way to know for sure is to start bolting things up and see what works!!! Also, posting every 2 hours won't get you more replies on the subject! And using exclamation points at the end of every sentence won't help either!!! :flipoff2:

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-18-2010, 03:26 PM
I don't know! Maybe the bellhousing idea will work! Only way to know for sure is to start bolting things up and see what works!!! Also, posting every 2 hours won't get you more replies on the subject! And using exclamation points at the end of every sentence won't help either!!! :flipoff2:

haha i know im a true newbie. sorry. well gonna take off on this we'll see. if anyone knows anything i dont chime in

Fawk Awph
02-18-2010, 08:42 PM
use the taco bellhousing flywheel pressure plate clutch fork and throwout bearing., and the 84 tranny and clutch disc. or you might actually get away with using the whole taco clutch kit, i cant remember.

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-18-2010, 11:32 PM
use the taco bellhousing flywheel pressure plate clutch fork and throwout bearing., and the 84 tranny and clutch disc. or you might actually get away with using the whole taco clutch kit, i cant remember.

okay thankyou very much, ya sound familiar with this

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-19-2010, 01:26 PM
from what i've researched and talked to marlin about:

-i lift my 96' tacoma body(cab and frontclip) and sit it on my 84' chassis! move/fab the body mounts where needed.

-i sit the 96' tacoma 3rz motor on the 84' chassis modify the mounts using the engine mounts from 96' and engine frame mounts from 84' and no having to move engine frame mounts on the 84' chassis

-use the bellhousing/clutch exct.... off the 96' tacoma to mate the 3rz to my 84' transmission. bolts right up supposably.

-use the t100 2wd 3rz oilpan to clear the 84' solid front axle

-place the 96' tacoma gas tank and lines on my 84's chassis and hook them up.

-use the 84' radiator.

-use the 96' tacoma exhaust.

-no change in wireing needed due to useing tacoma body and engine on 84'chassis/drivetrain

so i just need the t100 2wd 3rz oilpan and im good to go??

crash123
02-19-2010, 09:16 PM
I did that swap and used an ext cab taco. Sounds like your on track. The one thing i will tell you is the gas tank needs to be scrapped for a in bed fuel cell and the catalitic converter wont go because of the trans or case. You cab buy an airtec e2000 fuel pump from Autozone and it will work perfect. The bell housing from the 2.7 will bolt up to the old trans. Don't even touch the clutch on the back of the 2.7 unless you want to freshen it up. Just leave it bolted to the engine and the older trans with the newer bell will fall right in. Put the engine and trans on the solid axle frame before the body. It will make the motor mount situation go easier, just be sure to leave the shifters off when you put the body on. I also had to cut the taco floor pan infront of the shifter to fit correctly. As far as the body goes, I aligned the front body mount with my 85 frame mounts and realigned the rest.This gave me a ''looks like it belongs there'' look. The engine harness was super easy. You just unplug it from behind the glove box and pull through the fire wall. Your taco rad won't work anymore because of the sterring gear on the solid axel but I used the 85 rad on mine and have not had an issue. Besides that the was little stuff like the cab and frame not having the same lines so i cut body busings from a old body lift to whatever size they needed to be and i think i clearanced the inner fenders for the 85 shock towers.As for the oil pan, there is a kit out there that comes with the pan, pickup, and a new dipstick. I'll post it along with some pics of mine later. Very important, what ever you do, take care of the engine and wiring harness because if you break some parts or ruin the harness your screwed. Hope that helps and maybe i didn't mispell too much.

crash123
02-19-2010, 09:48 PM
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/jdcj82/100_0572.jpghttp://www.sky-manufacturing.com/new/detaproduct.php?id=118&PHPSESSID=290c6b0880f14b9c888b95de0fe16c85
that's the oil pan kit for 225 and it's well worth it

crash123
02-19-2010, 09:52 PM
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz158/jdcj82/100_0567.jpg

Booger Weldz
02-20-2010, 08:34 AM
thats a cool truck crash!

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-20-2010, 10:25 AM
man you are so helpfull! thankyou very much. can i have your number to call if i have an issue???

shiftrider66
02-23-2010, 04:23 PM
Crash123 definately bobbed the front of that bed. Mine is a 94 ex cab on 85 frame. Anything will fit with a tape measure and fab work. :flipoff2:

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-23-2010, 04:32 PM
Crash123 definately bobbed the front of that bed. Mine is a 94 ex cab on 85 frame. Anything will fit with a tape measure and fab work. :flipoff2:

was it real hard job switchin?

really wanna try and put tacoma ext. cab instead of tacoma single cab but dont wanna bob front portion of bed, its a 84' standard cab longbed chassis, if anythin i guess i could have frame mounts moved??

Booger Weldz
02-23-2010, 05:44 PM
was it real hard job switchin?

really wanna try and put tacoma ext. cab instead of tacoma single cab but dont wanna bob front portion of bed, its a 84' xtra-cab chassis, if anythin i guess i could have frame lengthened??

if you gotta pay to have someone lengthen the frame, this whole project is WAY beyond your abilties

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-23-2010, 06:07 PM
no my friend doin swap can do it was jus curious bout doin it, was jus tryin to figure out if frame would need to be lengthened for that to work

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-23-2010, 06:09 PM
if you gotta pay to have someone lengthen the frame, this whole project is WAY beyond your abilties

your truck is sick by the way checked it out a few times on here

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-24-2010, 09:41 AM
i've searched and searched for this with no luck, is there any difference in using a tacoma cab that had the 3.4 in it and using the 2.7? will the engine harness still plug right into the cab harness? i have the understandign that the engine harness simply pulls through firewalll and plugs into cab harness behind glovebox, is that correct?? and will the 2.7 engine harness plug into a cab harness that the truck originally had a 3.4 in? because i'v found a ext. cab and would really like to lengthen frame a tad (just because i dont wanna bob front of bedsides only rear bob) and run ext. cab rather than single cab, either way like i said will still tube bed wit tacoma bedsides attached.

shiftrider66
02-24-2010, 10:00 AM
i've searched and searched for this with no luck, is there any difference in using a tacoma cab that had the 3.4 in it and using the 2.7?not that i know of will the engine harness still plug right into the cab harness? noi have the understandign that the engine harness simply pulls through firewalll and plugs into cab harness behind glovebox, is that correct?? and will the 2.7 engine harness plug into a cab harness that the truck originally had a 3.4 in?no because i'v found a ext. cab and would really like to lengthen frame a tad (just because i dont wanna bob front of bedsides only rear bob) and run ext. cab rather than single cab, either way like i said will still tube bed wit tacoma bedsides attached.what difference does it make which end you bob? you will be running besides anyways.

2manyprojects has a build on the toy truck side, he bobbed the front of the bed and left the rear alone, it looks really good IMOP.

I dont know what you are working with, but you need to research a lot more. You will want to understand what you are doing before you start hacking, otherwise things will get delayed or not work for you.

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-24-2010, 10:28 AM
so the 3.4 engine harness wont work on a cab that had a 2.7, got ya, and reason i dont wanna bob front of bedsides is i want the rear of bedsides bobbed simply for departure angle, the tubebed is still gonna be used pretty regurally, as if it were still a bed, so want the space up front behind the cab befor the rear wheels to where it still has some space being the rear is going to be bobbed for departure angle.

i may just go with the tacoma single cab being its same truck that 2.7 is in and everything, tacoma ext. cab isnt going to be worth the trouble i guess just to have a little more cab space, i just really liked the tacoma ext. cabs

shiftrider66
02-24-2010, 11:06 AM
With my motor swap, the dash was swapped also, this way the harness wouldn't need to be spliced.

Since you have a complete truck, swap it all over to the extend cab shell.

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-24-2010, 11:19 AM
With my motor swap, the dash was swapped also, this way the harness wouldn't need to be spliced.

Since you have a complete truck, swap it all over to the extend cab shell.

well see i have 2 complete trucks a complete 96' tacoma 4x4 3rz 2.7 single cab with warped frame, and a 84' standardcab longebd with 4.88 gears, welded rear, open front, 4" skyjacker springs, gonna put the 96' taco cab, and 3rz motor on 84' chassis, tube around the cb and into tube bed and throw on the bobbed tacoma bedsides, and a 01-04 tacoma front clip. understand i need the 2wd 3rz t100 oil pan, and use the 96' tacoma 3rz bellhousing with clutch/starter, bolts right to my 84' trans, use the tacoma gas tank and lines and reroute exhuast, use my 84 radiator!

unsure of how accuate all this is

CDF94toy
02-24-2010, 01:41 PM
holyeffinshitbatman:D sounds like the ducks are in a row... now execute




and take pics

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-25-2010, 07:48 PM
well picked up the 84' and the 96' today should start anyday! this will be my first project of this kind, im more into dieselperformance, but my guy doin the build knows alot in this area! so should turnout great!

for those of you who dont know i am putting a 96' tacoma single cab and 3rz motor on a 84' standard cab longbed chassis which has 4" springs and welded rear, open front, 4.88 gears. and doing tube cage tied into tube bed/cage with tacoma bobbed bedsides hangin on. also tube rocksliders and bumpers.

-understood i use the 96's 3rz bellhousing with clutch and all to be able to bolt the 3rz up to my 84' transmission .
-use the 96' tacoma gas tank and lines.
-use the 84' radiator.
-use 2wd 3rz t100 oilpan.
-just modify for 96' 3rz engine mounts to mate to 84' chassis engine mounts.
-as well modify bodymounts on 84' chassis.
-have to rerun tacoma 96 exhuast on 84' chassis

question: what about hooking up 96' tacoma steering shaft to 84'?? since 96's rack and pinion?

anything else known i'm missing?

plan to later beef the crossover steering, longfield 30spline superset and detroit locker up front, stronger front and rear driveline, longtravel shocksetup, and dual cases.

SSLT1KID
02-26-2010, 12:28 AM
question: what about hooking up 96' tacoma steering shaft to 84'?? since ones rack and pinion?



http://tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131764

sounds like you have a pretty cool build going. keep it up and post up LOTS of pics.

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-26-2010, 01:53 PM
http://tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131764

sounds like you have a pretty cool build going. keep it up and post up LOTS of pics.

thankyou, dont look too complicated!

D-nAsTy-MaX
02-28-2010, 01:35 PM
anyone know that the 96 tacoma 3rz motor with it's 3rz bellhousing with flywheel and clutch will definately attach to my 84' transmission???

crash123
03-03-2010, 08:16 PM
No more info till we see some pics.

D-nAsTy-MaX
03-07-2010, 06:04 PM
No more info till we see some pics.

Oh i'll take some pix just tyin to find out if im correct on everythimg, missin anything before i start

D-nAsTy-MaX
03-13-2010, 07:44 AM
no one got anymore information for me? am i correct on everything just trying to find out befor i start

D-nAsTy-MaX
03-13-2010, 01:56 PM
well anyways im puttin 40's on it soon as completed, bein the 84' chassis has 4" spring setup and 4.88 gearing, figured the tacoma body with cut fenders and tube bed with bobbed and cut wheel opening bedsides attached, it'l fit fine and pull em fine with the 2.7 3rz tacoma engine

Booger Weldz
03-13-2010, 02:39 PM
wheres the pics??????????

D-nAsTy-MaX
03-13-2010, 09:56 PM
i have them on my blackberry i do not know how to post them on here!

i have not started yet just have both trucks ready to start and the t100 2wd 3rz oilpan ordered. ready to start just tryin to get more info.

Booger Weldz
03-14-2010, 11:34 AM
i can post them for you once you get going, let me know when your ready and you can text them to me or email...

SSLT1KID
03-14-2010, 05:13 PM
It should be relatively straight forward. What info are you trying to find out? Sounds to me like you are a GO FOR GO.

D-nAsTy-MaX
03-15-2010, 09:18 PM
i can post them for you once you get going, let me know when your ready and you can text them to me or email...

thanks a bunch man!! wil let ya know

D-nAsTy-MaX
03-15-2010, 09:19 PM
It should be relatively straight forward. What info are you trying to find out? Sounds to me like you are a GO FOR GO.

yeah i think i am good to go, just trying to make sure i'm not wrong on something or missing something i have not listed

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-02-2010, 12:21 PM
finally got this project started, the cab/beds off the 84' chassis, cab and 3rz motor are ready to lift off the 96' tacoma chassis to be fitted to the 84's chassis!

the 84' still has drum brakes in the rear, would you recommend a all pro disk brake conversion back there? or using the rear axle out of the 96' 4wd tacoma then jus getting 4.88 ring and pinion for it to match the 4.88 gearing in the front of the 84'??

jus unsure of what to do about that. also trying to figure out if i can use the ifs steering box out of the 96' to convert the 84' to hy-steer???

i am about to order some logfield 30's for the front, some longer travel shock hoops, and some shocks, would really appreciate recommendations on shocks?

also need to get stronger driveline both front and rear what yal recommend??

i also am wanting to order some gears for the stock 84' transfercase, may go to dual cases down road but wanna just do some gears n stock t-case for now, what yal recommend 4.7's??

Booger Weldz
05-02-2010, 12:56 PM
finally got this project started, the cab/beds off the 84' chassis, cab and 3rz motor are ready to lift off the 96' tacoma chassis to be fitted to the 84's chassis!

the 84' still has drum brakes in the rear, would you recommend a all pro disk brake conversion back there? or using the rear axle out of the 96' 4wd tacoma then jus getting 4.88 ring and pinion for it to match the 4.88 gearing in the front of the 84'??

jus unsure of what to do about that. also trying to figure out if i can use the ifs steering box out of the 96' to convert the 84' to hy-steer???

i am about to order some logfield 30's for the front, some longer travel shock hoops, and some shocks, would really appreciate recommendations on shocks?

also need to get stronger driveline both front and rear what yal recommend??

i also am wanting to order some gears for the stock 84' transfercase, may go to dual cases down road but wanna just do some gears n stock t-case for now, what yal recommend 4.7's??

ditch the 84 rear axle, its too skinny and the drum brakes are small, the 96 has rack and pinion, not an ifs steering box. one case with 4.7s sucks in a lot of situations where you dont wanna be that low(fireroads, easy sections of the trail, etc). bilsteins, FOA or bbcs shocks are the best bang for the buck and really transform the ride if your used to a procomp es3000 or rancho 5000 piece of crap shock

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-02-2010, 12:58 PM
^^ the 96' is non-trd 4wd. so would i be better to swap that 96' tacoma rear axle in the 84'? rather than keep the 84' rear axle n do disk brake conversion to it. will the 4.88 gearing out of the 84's rear axle fit the 96' tacoma rear axle? or do i just need to get new ring and pinion for it?

also can the 96' tacoma's ifs steering box work on the 84' with marlin or all pro hy-steer kit ya think? unsure as to if it would be right ifs steerign box or not

was tryin to better explain those questions
thanks guys!

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-02-2010, 01:01 PM
ditch the 84 rear axle, its too skinny and the drum brakes are small, the 96 has rack and pinion, not an ifs steering box. one case with 4.7s sucks in a lot of situations where you dont wanna be that low(fireroads, easy sections of the trail, etc). bilsteins, FOA or bbcs shocks are the best bang for the buck and really transform the ride if your used to a procomp es3000 or rancho 5000 piece of crap shock

thanks man so do ya know if the 4.88 gearing outta the 84's rear will fit the 96' im guessing not but im a newbie so had to ask couldnt find out searching.

any specific shock model setup ya recommend doin?

so looks like i need a ifs steering box for hy-steer still, and will jus leave stock gearing n stock t-case till i can do duals

thanks man i envy ur work on silverbullit

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-02-2010, 01:14 PM
also would really like to know where recommend order 4.88 gearing for the tacoma rear? so it matches the 84's front axle gearing

that and what ya recommend for front n rear driveline?

Booger Weldz
05-02-2010, 01:16 PM
also would really like to know where recommend order 4.88 gearing for the tacoma rear? so it matches the 84's front axle gearing

that and what ya recommend for front n rear driveline?

high angle driveline(paradise, ca) hes in the vendors section as onetonecv. if you have the cv and Ujoints his prices are excellent

local gear shop for the gearing?? otherwise 'gearman' at rivercity differentials...he is THE BEST!

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-02-2010, 01:38 PM
high angle driveline(paradise, ca) hes in the vendors section as onetonecv. if you have the cv and Ujoints his prices are excellent

local gear shop for the gearing?? otherwise 'gearman' at rivercity differentials...he is THE BEST!

thanks haha yep extremely rural here definately no local gear shops but i will get in touch wit them
thanks man

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-03-2010, 05:58 PM
looks like where we stand wit how the rigs intitial setup is gonna be is following:

-84' toyota standard-cab long-bed chassis
-stock 84' G54 transmission & t-case
-96' 4wd 3rz tacoma: singlecab/frontclip, 3rz motor with 2wd t100 pan kit, clutch/bellhousing, sat on 84' chassis using 96' gas tank & lines, 96' tacoma's flowmaster exhuast, and the 84' radiator
-84' toyota front, open diff., longfield 30spline superset, detroit locker ASAP
-84' toyota rear welded with 4.88 gearing, or use 96' taco non-trd rear with 4.88 R&P and welded
-4" skyjacker springs all around. long-travel bilstein shock setup front and rear
-beefed crossover steering or hysteer
-beefed driveline front and rear
-tubed exo-cage around cab tied into dovetailed tubed bed/cage with detachable, bobbed, wheelopening-cut tacoma bedsides, tube dovetailed with stinger front clip with tacoma hood and detachable, wheelopening-cut tacoma fenders
-40's and black 17 pro-comp type98 steel wheels, later add DIY beadlocks

so later down road 23spline 2.28 front 4.7 rear twinsticked dual case setup, then maybe linked coilovered/airshocked front and rear.
what locker is recommend for front? any problems with having welded or spool rear?
and what upgrades to 84' front and rear besides:4.88's open diff. and longfields up front, and 4.88's welded diff. in rear, are recommended???
also wat yal's opinion of pro-comp xterrains? found good deal on them
thanks,
kevin

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-05-2010, 08:28 AM
^^newb question here sorry:
i am thinkin about using the 96' non-trd tacoma rear end since it is wider and just calling gearman at rivercity to get my 4.88 ring and pinion for the 96' tacoma non-trd rearend then either getting a spool for it or just welding it, though it still has drum brakes but it is wider whats yals opinions of doin this??? otherwise would just be keeping the 84' rear with rear welded and 4.88 gearing already

see i figured using the wider 96' tacoma non-trd rear jus putting a 4.88 R&P in it (to match the 84' fronts gearing) and just welding the diff. or using a spool, i'd have same strong setup i need but wider without using wheelspacers! then i could get the sky-manufacturing wide axle kit for the front which uses IFS hubs and if i'm right i can use the IFS hubs off my 96'?? then both the front and rear would be wide, have same track width, and not be usin wheelspacers. am i correct on this? would this be best? or jus keep the 84' toy. rear axle and just use wheel spacers? what about that wide axle kit for front? will the 96' tacoma IFS hubs work with it? will it give me the right track width to match the 96' tacoma rear?

thanks guys

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 02:56 PM
bump, still tryin to figure out above question^^

thanks guys!

also i have some pix of some of the progress so far--the 84' rolling chassis ready for fitting the 96' tacoma cab/front clip and 3rz motor to it. and the 96' tacoma with the cab and motor undone and ready to be lifted off. also have some close ups of the 84's driveline, transmission and transfercase, and steering. as well pix of exactly how i intend to do cage around cab/bed. and how i am going to tube the front clip! ....i am trying to figure out how to post them on here. it says i cannot attatch anything.. can someone post all these pics for me please??

been going slow my guy doin this has been extremely busy but should fly in on it now he said.

thanks

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 06:35 PM
84' the way i bought it
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84' again
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96' tacoma with cab/front clip and 3rz engine ready to lift off
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84' transmission topview, this is a 84' G54 transmission right? RF1A gear-driven righthand topshift t-case? should be original according to seller
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84' transmission topview, this is a 84' G54 transmission right? RF1A gear-drivin righthand topshift t-case? should be original according to seller
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D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 06:43 PM
the 84' chassis, supposably standard cab longbed chassis.... if so i was thinkin of shortening it to be standard cab shortbed chassis thus creating shorter wheelbase as well as getting rid of such long rear driveline with carrier bearing just seems weak like that
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84' chassis again, where would i cut section out and piece it back together to make it standard cab shortbed chassis?? right behind rear cab mount, just before rear spring hanger wouldn't yal say?
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84' chassis from front, that is all factory crossover steerin according to saller... going to beef that crossover steering or switch to hysteer
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84' rear view, these are supposed to be original 84' toy. 8" axles with 4.88 gearing and welded rear, open front, 4" skyjacker springs all around
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this is how i plan to cut the wheelopening on the detachable fenders and detachable bobbed bedsides
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D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 06:54 PM
84' front driveline side view, is this factory front driveline? what yal recommend replacing it with if so?
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84' front driveline top view
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84' rear driveline side view, is this factory rear driveline?
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84' rear driveline top view, i feel like the long rear driveline with carrier bearin is weak i would like to shorten frame and eliminate this..
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this is how i plan to have the rear detachable bedsides look, cut wheel openings and bobbed, hanging on the dovetailed tube bed cage setup
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D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 07:00 PM
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all of those pix are EXACTLY how i intend to tube the front clip of the truck, still having the tacoma hood just cut down to fit also plan on having the tacoma fenders with cut wheel opening be able to be attached to it to give it the tacoma look still on the road, i figure the turnsignal cutout on the tacoma fenders could meet up to the headlight surrounding bend in the tube of the front clip. also want the front stinger and windshield bars bent exactly like they did and cut and welded meeting at a point for that unique look

the last pix is how i intend for the top windowshield portion of the cab cage to look, with the top horizontal bar angling down to a slight point in the center wher rearview mirror is then go back up meeting the otherside

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 07:12 PM
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all of the above pix are EXACTLY how i intend to tube the rear portion of the truck and cab!! EXACTLY... only i will still keep the frame and leafs, and will have 2 tacoma seats against the back of the cab facing back, and i am going to have the bobbed cut wheel opening tacoma bedsides detachable so able to hag on when on road

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-15-2010, 07:27 PM
i got my redstar so i could post pix so i went haywire n showed ya everything thus far and my plans!, asked alotta questions with the pix too since i'm a newbie trying to understand some stuff. let me know what ya think.... also how to go about shortening rear of chassis? and about driveline and steering strengtheing what ya recommend?

after we move/fabricate frame mounting for tacoma body, 3rz engine, gas tank, exhaust on the 84' chassis and cut and shorten it down i intend to strengthen any areas needed, then sandblast and paint the entire chassis black before final mounting of tacoma cab, 3rz engine, gas tank, exhaust.

then will do the tubework front and rear and around cab, then setup mounting the detachable cut wheelopening fenders, and bobbed cut wheelopening bedsides, then i intend to add the longtravel bilstein shocksetup front and rear, install longfield superset in front and detroit locker, decide wether using 96' tacoma non-trd rear and putting matching 4.88 R&P and welding differential or just keeping the 84' 4.88 and welded rear, then beef the crossover steering or do hysteer kit, then beef the driveline front and rear. and if using the wider 96' rear then will do the sky-manufacturing wide axle kit to the front axle using the 96's IFS Hubs. oh and lastly mount the 40's probably procomp xterrains found deal on them and 17" black pro-comp type 98 "soft8" wheels which i will later add DIY beadlocks too probably

Dare44
05-16-2010, 12:56 AM
i got my redstar so i could post pix so i went haywire n showed ya everything thus far and my plans!, asked alotta questions with the pix too since i'm a newbie trying to understand some stuff. let me know what ya think.... also how to go about shortening rear of chassis? and about driveline and steering strengtheing what ya recommend?

after we move/fabricate frame mounting for tacoma body, 3rz engine, gas tank, exhaust on the 84' chassis and cut and shorten it down i intend to strengthen any areas needed, then sandblast and paint the entire chassis black before final mounting of tacoma cab, 3rz engine, gas tank, exhaust.

then will do the tubework front and rear and around cab, then setup mounting the detachable cut wheelopening fenders, and bobbed cut wheelopening bedsides, then i intend to add the longtravel bilstein shocksetup front and rear, install longfield superset in front and detroit locker, decide wether using 96' tacoma non-trd rear and putting matching 4.88 R&P and welding differential or just keeping the 84' 4.88 and welded rear, then beef the crossover steering or do hysteer kit, then beef the driveline front and rear. and if using the wider 96' rear then will do the sky-manufacturing wide axle kit to the front axle using the 96's IFS Hubs. oh and lastly mount the 40's probably procomp xterrains found deal on them and 17" black pro-comp type 98 "soft8" wheels which i will later add DIY beadlocks too probably

Take a breath there sparky, 4.88 + 40's = smoked output shafts and no power at all. And on top of that fucking get started on it and show us what you are doing as you go! We dont need to see 50 pics of what you want to do! :shaking:

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-16-2010, 06:51 AM
Take a breath there sparky, 4.88 + 40's = smoked output shafts and no power at all. And on top of that fucking get started on it and show us what you are doing as you go! We dont need to see 50 pics of what you want to do! :shaking:

sorry man i said i was postin everything i had at once cus i fianly got a redstar n could post pix.

i have gotten started, the 84's been stripped dwn to its rollling chassis(cab,frontclip,bed,engine removed) the 96' has had the bed fenders grille lights removed, and the cab and front clip have been dismounted and are ready to lift off, as well the 96's 3rz motor has been dismounted and harness and accessories disconnected and is ready to lift off as well.

i am a newbie and was trying to get info. on if that is infact a standardcab longebed chassis, if so what section is recommended to cut out making it standard cab shortbed chassis and eliminating carrier bearing on longass rear driveline that is such a weakpoint, as well was trying to figure out if the front n rear driveline looked to be factory or hd aftermarket, see the previous owner wasnt exactly sure. and im definately new to the yota game.

4.88's with a 3rz and 40's is gonna be killin output shafts? i didnt know this... i understood it's be fine n pull em fine? thanks man could ya explain more on that..

thanks

scrappy1982
05-16-2010, 12:18 PM
keep tha 4.88s and get a dual case setup with marlin gears and 4.7 in that rear case, and bobbylong output shaft and u will be fine, with jus keeping th 4.88s and stock case it put more leavrage on the output

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-16-2010, 05:03 PM
keep tha 4.88s and get a dual case setup with marlin gears and 4.7 in that rear case, and bobbylong output shaft and u will be fine, with jus keeping th 4.88s and stock case it put more leavrage on the output

adam brooks? hey man, thanks for the info. jeffrey's workin on really gettin ball rollin on this and im trying to learn as much as i can and get what i need.

so do i need to buy a dual case adapter, a crawlbox with marlin 2.28 gears in it, and buy marlin 4.7 gears for my stock case, and buy bobbylong 23 spline output shaft??

i plan to keep rear welded, and put a detroit up front along with logfield 30spline superset.--- im not sure wether i should just keep the 84' rear thats already welded wit 4.88's in it, or if i should use the wider 96' tacoma non-trd rear and buy 4.88 R&P for it and weld it... what yal think?

also beef the crossover steering or do hysteer??

and if i take section outta frame behind back cab mount before back wheels to shorten up the wheelbase wont it be better offroad, and eliminate the long rear driveline with weak carrier bearin??

im new to this and i think im right on all this just checking.

thanks

Pietro
05-16-2010, 05:32 PM
it seems like you are way ahead of yourself as far as what you want to get done. Based off of the numerous questions you are asking that have an answer somewhere in the vast world wide web of pirate4x4, you should stop your project and do a lot more research and reading. There are so many people with builds on here, all this shit has been done before.

Someone could come on here and tell you to swap in a set of 3.07 10 bolts and you would probably jump at that info. Slow down the build and read. When you get sick of reading, read some more. Information is your friend when you are spending lots of money.

scrappy1982
05-16-2010, 06:53 PM
yeah what he said, or jus buy mine thats done built and save urself $10,000:eek:

generalee7
05-16-2010, 07:06 PM
The knowledgeable people on this forum will not build your truck for you. If you don't know what modifications to do to your own truck, you need to do more research.

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-17-2010, 08:26 PM
i've been researching, the questions im asking i aint been successful at finding info. on. but if i was one building it it'd be different for me to not know what im doin n be ahead of myself. but i gotta friend (jeffrey woods, built his toyota truggy rig, knowledgable in this area) who is doin this project and im just lendin a hand here n there, and tryin to learn...this is something i am very new at! i know diesel performance well, have torn down my duramax before which alotta guys wont even attempt, thats actually simple to me, toyota wheelers n their drivetrain upgrades are where i get lost... im very new to it and trying to learn at same time my first rig is bein pieced together so when it's ready to go im ready to get out ther n wheel n truely learn the sport... im just trying to get the main basics i need for it for now, and learn as much as i can, can do other big modifications to it later down road here and there.

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-17-2010, 08:43 PM
yeah what he said, or jus buy mine thats done built and save urself $10,000:eek:

man i want too.. but the money just isn't there for me right now, but i am trying to get my brother to buy it from you... see i've got both trucks paid for and jefffrey paid in full for the job, i can over next month buy longfield superset, detroit for front, longtravel bilstein shock setup, tube for tubework, and lastly(most important and most expensive) the dual case setup, and i'll have this rig done as it is going to be for now... then can just add more, if needed, later down the road as i go....

i got some used 35 baja claws bias plys cheap to run on the 15's that are on that 84' chassis for now till i can get a 40" tire/wheel set. so i can spend money on dualcase setup now.

p.s.: i gotta get up with you about 4 linkin the duramax!

timmaytoyota
05-19-2010, 07:17 PM
there should be a plack on the front of your 84 cab that will have all the info like wich trans that you have, and the transfer case is a forward shift. take picture of the tacoma rear axel if the back of it looks more like the 84 i think yor 84 3rd will work. get your motor bolted up to your trans and set the body on your frame and then you can worry about the wheel base. sounds like a cool project get back to work:flipoff2:

D-nAsTy-MaX
05-19-2010, 07:51 PM
there should be a plack on the front of your 84 cab that will have all the info like wich trans that you have, and the transfer case is a forward shift. take picture of the tacoma rear axel if the back of it looks more like the 84 i think yor 84 3rd will work. get your motor bolted up to your trans and set the body on your frame and then you can worry about the wheel base. sounds like a cool project get back to work:flipoff2:

thanks man, i appreciate ya support.. i knew about the plack on cab but the previous owner claimed the toyota had the cab swapped at some point by the owner before him.. so i wasn't to sure on going off of that cab for chassis/drivetrain information, but more looked at it and talked to adam ("scrappy1982" above) he did the 4" leafspring lift and 4.88 gears on it and welded the rear, thinkin now it's actually original cab...

i found out is a forward shift with 4.5" fork offset t-case, geardrivin i believe but gonna check the rear cover for 7 bolts to see if it is definately a geardrivin case though...i believe the case is a RF1A....for the transmission it's a 5speed, i believe it is a G54 model transmission.... soon as i can get back by where it's at gonna check it over to be sure. i know it has 4" skyjacker leafsprings, genuine gear 4.88 gears front and rear in the original toyota 8" axles, the rear is welded and the front open i believe...as far as i can tell it is a standard cab longbed chassis...

my goal right now is just like ya said get the tacoma cab and 3rz engine on the 84' chassis...
-then get the 96' tacoma wider and stronger rear in and swap in a 4.88 ring and pinion so it'l match the 84' front,and probly just weld it...
-then i'll worry with cutting down frame to make it short wheelbase and eliminate long rear driveline wit carrier bearin...
-then hysteer... longfield superset and detroit for front...
-then all the tubework front and rear so it's done and drivable...
-then dualcase setup
-then little stuff strengthening it

D-nAsTy-MaX
12-05-2010, 08:06 PM
so it's been forever but i'm finally about complete, lack only: paint, bigger 37-38.5's on beadlocks, and winch.

i have learned so much on this build and i wasn't even able to really be there as much as i wanted too. had to work so much to pay for it and bein fulltime collegestudent pretty busy!

thanks to jeffrey wood for most of the build took it from pile of parts to a true rig...

also wanna thank adam brooksm gave me huge hookup on 90%of the parts on this, as well as some work on rig as well...

alot of custom work went into this to get it to work out switching new gen. taco engine and body to old gen. chassis/drivetrain... making a truely one-off custom rig...

okay couple things to note:
-96' Taco singlecab shortbed body, 3rz 2.7 engine...Downey intake/Flowmaster, taco 8.8" rearend, clutch and bellhousing
-84' Yota singlecab longbed chassis, toy. 8" frontend, g54 trans, radiator
-MarlinCrawler 2.28/2.28 dualcases
-Allpro longer baja 4" rear leafs/shackle, Alcan custom 4" front leafs/shackles, long Procomp es9000's and hoops(super flexible setup)
-built front with Longfield 30splines and hubgears, factory 4.10's front/rear, "hobart-locked" welded rear, Spartan lunchbox locker front
-Trailgear hysteer with Arp studs
-Trailgear/Allpro diff. armor
-electric fan
-custom engine mounts
-custom heavy duty tube drivelines
-custom dualcase mount(near flatbelly without clocking)
-Marlincrawler d.o.m. interior cage, 5 sticks of 1.5" .120wall d.o.m. tube in front/rear, 2"x3" 1/4"wall rec. tube sliders
-narrowed tubed-out front with sloped hood, tubedout dovetailed/bobbed rear, detechable fenders/bedsides, custom aluminum bed floor
-rocklights, Hella offroad lighting, relocated battery to bed
-relocated gas tank to bed
-currently on 35" baja claw rollers, roof still under 6' very low setup
-lack only paint/body ,37-38.5's on beadlocks, and winch.

D-nAsTy-MaX
12-05-2010, 08:08 PM
more pics, also there will be more detailed pix of suspension steering, ect. to come once completed, still gotta get wheels/tires, winch paint/body done

also the aluminum skidplate on front will be hit with grinder for swirled look and then dimple died once winch and fairlead is mounted up.... right now its a goofy white vynal that came over the aluminum, as well there is going to be fullsize spare angle mounted on those 2 center tubed coming down very back of bedcage...

i was kinda going for look of a trophy truck/truggy cralwer...turned out great in my eyes!!

also this thing is getting tagged and daily drivin on the street here in the mountains

D-nAsTy-MaX
12-11-2010, 09:55 AM
jus picked up some 38.5x14.50 grooved tsl sx's on recenter h1 double beadlocks with runflats off scrappy1982 goin on asap

D-nAsTy-MaX
12-16-2010, 03:46 PM
38.5x14.50x16.5 grooved tsl's sx's on 16.5x10 recentered hummer double beadlocks with runflats put on.....

D-nAsTy-MaX
01-07-2011, 09:12 PM
adam is now working on finishing exhuast and fittin the tires a lil better at full stuff... just gotta mount winch that just came in.... and im trying to figure out where i can get a custom vinyl wrap done....