Tie rod ends?

[Scoutillac]

What is the biggest TRE I can use with my stock scout knuckle? My tie rod will be 1 1/4" 4140 so I would like to have beefy TRE's on it. C'mon guy's hook me up...hehehe

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73 Scout II W/ chev 355 & custom rust
72 Scout II W/ Cad 500 No rust,(disassembled)
Why? because I can!

[Scoutman71]

no clue but when you find out, can you make me one too?

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[Old Scout]

I just bought all the stuff to make them. There 3/4-16 vs the stock 5/8 NC. The Drag Link and Tie Rod will be 1.25" DOM tubing with Left and Right TREs with poly covers. 250.00 for the pair complete.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/SCIIBeef.jpg


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If You're Not Outraged, You're Not Paying Attention

[tsm1mt]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
I just bought all the stuff to make them. There 3/4-16 vs the stock 5/8 NC. The Drag Link and Tie Rod will be 1.25" DOM tubing with Left and Right TREs with poly covers. 250.00 for the pair complete.



Looks just like the ones on my GRT DOM tie-rod n' draglinks. Haven't been able to break on yet.. (but I'm still trying)


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[This message has been edited by tsm1mt (edited 04-23-2001).]

[Scoutillac]

Hey Old Scout look's good. I already have my material, but would you be so kind as to tell me what the PN for the end's are?

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73 Scout II W/ chev 355 & custom rust
72 Scout II W/ Cad 500 No rust,(disassembled)
Why? because I can!

[Ben W]

Moog# ES150R and ES150L are the 3/4-16 tie rod ends.

You should be able to get them at any parts store, or here (http://www.afcoracing.com/products/getsubclasses.cfm?ClassID=120&CategoryID=8) .

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Ben's 1961 Scout (http://www.geocities.com/scoutguy61)

[Ben W]

The next step up would be the 7/8"-18 tie rod ends, from a Chevy. I don't know if they fit the stock taper in the scout knuckles though. The taps for them are big $$. I'm going to be making tie rod & draglink for my Scout. If you wanted to use the big GM ends I can make you a set of tubes for $100, you supply the ends.

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Ben's 1961 Scout (http://www.geocities.com/scoutguy61)

[This message has been edited by 61Scout (edited 04-23-2001).]

[Ben W]

Moog part#'s for the 7/8-18 ends:

drivers tie rod end: ES2234R
Pass. tie rod end: ES2010L
Draglink ends: ES2026R & ES2027L

If one wanted a pass. side tie rod end with the hole in it for the draglink they would use ES2233L. This isn't necessary with a Scout axle.

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Ben's 1961 Scout (http://www.geocities.com/scoutguy61)

[lt303scoutin]

My drag link has about 1/2" slop. Makes my ass pucker about every 10 minutes when it decides to go hard left or right with out asking me first.

I was going to replace it with a used drag link off a '71 parts scout I am picking up next week.

Is this ok, or should I just park it until i can save up the $160 for a new one?

I figure the used one can get me buy until I can afford to replace it with a beefier one.

[blazin74]

ben, are you gonna buy the 7/8-18 L and R taps?

[Jeepdude_Jay]

Originally posted by blazin74:
<STRONG>ben, are you gonna buy the 7/8-18 L and R taps?</STRONG>
I think we are definetly getting the right hand and I think he is still considering the left hand.
Jay

[71RCKCRZR RYAN]

IM USING THE GM 7/8" TRE AND DRAG LINKS.....IM ORDERING MY TIE ROD FROM ROCKSTOMPER....1.5" WHATEVER LENGTH....TAPPED FOR L R THREADS.....ITS FAWKIN BEEF....CHECH IT OUT AT ROCKSTOMPER .COM

[71RCKCRZR RYAN]

OH YEAH $75 PLUS SHIPPING

[Eric]

If you guys want, I can make you tie rods and drag links tapped for the 7/8" tie rod ends and they are reasonable priced. Send me an e-mail if you are interested.

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by 71RCKCRZR:
<STRONG>IM USING THE GM 7/8" TRE AND DRAG LINKS.....IM ORDERING MY TIE ROD FROM ROCKSTOMPER....1.5" WHATEVER LENGTH....TAPPED FOR L R THREADS.....ITS FAWKIN BEEF....CHECH IT OUT AT ROCKSTOMPER .COM</STRONG>

But will they fit the stock scout knuckle taper??? I think not.

[Eric]

Does anyone know what the taper for the Scout TREs are (steering knuckle)?

[Old Fart]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG>Moog# ES150R and ES150L are the 3/4-16 tie rod ends.

You should be able to get them at any parts store, or here (http://www.afcoracing.com/products/getsubclasses.cfm?ClassID=120&CategoryID=8) .
</STRONG>

61, these fit the factory taper, correct?

Jeff

[scouter77]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>I just bought all the stuff to make them. There 3/4-16 vs the stock 5/8 NC. The Drag Link and Tie Rod will be 1.25" DOM tubing with Left and Right TREs with poly covers. 250.00 for the pair complete.

</STRONG>

What's the wall thickness on that 1 1/4" DOM? Am I a moron and all DOM has the same wall thickness?

[Old Scout]

Here is what I can get thru my supplyer.



OD Wall ID Type Lb/ft


1.25 0.032 1.188 DOM Mech .4036
1.25 0.035 1.180 CREW Mech .4542
1.25 0.049 1.152 DOM Mech .6285
1.25 0.049 1.152 DOM SSID .6285
1.25 0.049 1.152 DOM Gal .6285
1.25 0.049 1.152 W&D Hyd .6285
1.25 0.049 1.152 CREW Mech .6285
1.25 0.060 1.130 HREW Mech .7626
1.25 0.065 1.120 DOM Mech .8226
1.25 0.065 1.120 CDS Hyd .8226
1.25 0.065 1.120 W&D Hyd .8226
1.25 0.065 1.120 CREW Mech .8226
1.25 0.065 1.120 HREW Mech .8226
1.25 0.083 1.084 DOM Mech 1.034
1.25 0.083 1.084 W&D Hyd 1.034
1.25 0.083 1.084 HREW Mech 1.034
1.25 0.085 1.080 Welded A214 1.058
1.25 0.095 1.060 CDS Mech 1.172
1.25 0.095 1.060 Welded A214 1.295
1.25 0.095 1.060 DOM Mech 1.172
1.25 0.095 1.060 CDS Hyd 1.172
1.25 0.095 1.060 HREW Mech 1.172
1.25 0.095 1.060 W&D Hyd 1.172
1.25 0.109 1.032 DOM Mech 1.328
1.25 0.109 1.032 CDBW Mech 1.328
1.25 0.109 1.032 CDS Mech 1.328
1.25 0.109 1.032 HREW Mech 1.328
1.25 0.109 1.032 CDS Hyd 1.328
1.25 0.109 1.032 W&D Hyd 1.328
1.25 0.120 1.010 DOM Mech 1.448
1.25 0.120 1.010 CDBW Mech 1.448
1.25 0.120 1.010 CDS Hyd 1.448
1.25 0.120 1.010 HREW Mech 1.448
1.25 0.120 1.000 CDBW Mech 1.502
1.25 0.125 1.000 DOM Mech 1.502
1.25 0.125 1.000 DOM SSID 1.502
1.25 0.134 0.982 CDS Mech 1.597
1.25 0.134 0.982 CDBW Mech 1.597
1.25 0.134 0.982 W&D Hyd 1.597
1.25 0.156 0.937 CDBW Mech 1.823
1.25 0.156 0.937 DOM Mech 1.823
1.25 0.172 0.906 DOM Mech 1.980
1.25 0.180 0.890 CDBW Mech 2.057
1.25 0.185 0.880 CDBW Mech 2.104
1.25 0.188 0.875 CDS Mech 2.132
1.25 0.188 0.875 CDBW Mech 2.132
1.25 0.188 0.875 DOM Mech 2.132
1.25 0.188 0.875 CDS Hyd 2.132
1.25 0.219 0.812 CDBW Mech 2.411
1.25 0.219 0.812 DOM Mech 2.411
1.25 0.234 0.782 CDBW Mech 2.539
1.25 0.240 0.770 CDBW Mech 2.589
1.25 0.244 0.761 CDBW Mech 2.630
1.25 0.247 0.756 CDBW Mech 2.646
1.25 0.250 0.750 CDS Mech 2.670
1.25 0.250 0.750 CDBW Mech 2.670
1.25 0.250 0.750 DOM Mech 2.670
1.25 0.281 0.688 DOM Mech 2.908
1.25 0.313 0.625 CDS Mech 3.132
1.25 0.313 0.625 CDS Mech (2) 3.132
1.25 0.313 0.625 DOM Mech 3.132
1.25 0.344 0.562 DOM Mech 3.329
1.25 0.375 0.500 CDS Mech 3.504
1.25 0.438 0.375 CDS Mech 3.798

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Old Fart:
<STRONG>61, these fit the factory taper, correct?

Jeff</STRONG>

Yes they should fit.

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>Here is what I can get thru my supplyer.

</STRONG>

Damn, you have a cool supplier. I once asked what I could get in 1.25" tubing with a wall thicker than .250 and all I got back were confused looks.
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[scouter77]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>What's the wall thickness on that 1 1/4" DOM? </STRONG>

Again with this question... To use the tre's from the pic on top what is the specific size DOM did you used? (Not to sound like a jerk or anything)

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>Again with this question... To use the tre's from the pic on top what is the specific size DOM did you used? (Not to sound like a jerk or anything)</STRONG>

I think 1.25" .281 wall would work good for that.

[Ben W]

Originally posted by 61Scout:
<STRONG>I think 1.25" .281 wall would work good for that.</STRONG>
http://www.americanfastener.com/techref/tapdrill.htm

Yep, the tap drill for 3/4-16 is .688, so the 1.25" .281 wall would be perfect. <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

[Old Scout]

Originally posted by Scouter77:
<STRONG>Again with this question... To use the tre's from the pic on top what is the specific size DOM did you used? (Not to sound like a jerk or anything)</STRONG>

Come awn. I was trying to throw you a bone, not spoon feed ya.

The drill size for a 3/4-16 tap is 11/16"

11/16=0.685.

[scouter77]

FINE if you want to play that way <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> How the hell am I supposed to know what size drill bit is used for what tap? I dont have all the tools and stuff to do all this myself yet... I am collecting as I go <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Thanks for the info though. I just called and asked for 1.25" dia .281 wall and they said $115.20 for 10' is that a good price?

[Old Scout]

Sounds like there charging you for the whole 20ft stick and only giving you half. <IMG SRC="smilies/mad.gif" border="0">
My supplyer has a 100.00 minimun order, your may as well.

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Old Scout ]

[scouter77]

Thanks for the info <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Maybe I'll send you the difference NOT!

ALSO my supplier was a 4wd shop. They probably mark it up a tiny bit too (sarcasm?). I know of a metal wholesaler who will sell by the inch I will call them and see what their prices are like. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Scouter77 ]

[Old Scout]

TRY EJM
PHOENIX
P.O. Box 6768 Zip 85005
5445 W. Madison St.
Phoenix, AZ 85043
Phone: (602) 272-0461
Fax: (602) 278-1007

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[Ben W]

Sounds way to expensive to me. You can get some 1.25" solid stress proof for well under $3/ft. Cut it to length, and take it to a machine shop to get then ends drilled 11/16" if you don't have access to a lathe. Then you could tap it yourself, and you'd still come out cheaper than buying the DOM.

[scouter77]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>TRY EJM
PHOENIX
P.O. Box 6768 Zip 85005
5445 W. Madison St.
Phoenix, AZ 85043
Phone: (602) 272-0461
Fax: (602) 278-1007

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HIM: "I'll have to order it out of Chicago It'll be about $170.00"

Me: "Does that come with KY Jelly or vaseline?"

WTF WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE HERE!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

[Old Scout]

GO here they show 1.25" DOM .75 for 1.27/ft


http://www.execpc.com/~metal/catalog.html

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Old Scout ]

[Ben W]

Originally posted by Old Scout:
<STRONG>GO here they show 1.25" DOM .75 for 1.27/ft

http://www.execpc.com/~metal/catalog.html

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Old Scout ]</STRONG>

Not quite. That's $1.27/inch

[scouter77]

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