Is there any reason or way that a serialized PEQ 15 could be for sale?
The guy selling it says in an email that it is an "Airsoft Unit", if so why is he asking $3990.00?
The picture of the item has the place where the serial number would be blacked out.

Link to Auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230439888330&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_500wt_1182

Screen Shot

Wouldn't be surprised.

I have 41 in my name, what's your offer :laughing:

Looks like your standard issue laser.

Hint: Its hot.

as him for the serial to verify its NOT stolen and see what you get for an answer :D

Call the FBI

Wow, he is even offering "World Wide" express shipping. :eek:

Shipping cost fixed $35 for 2x express worldwide

as him for the serial to verify its NOT stolen and see what you get for an answer :D

Since we are going down this road.

Give me the serial number and I'll give you the UIC.

:evil:

He sold a few new Savit M249 stocks for under the going rate recently...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230413202408

Going off of that and his Name on Ebay he's probably some supply douche making a little money on the side.

Fry him. :shaking:

User ID has SSG.

Been a while...does Navy abbreviate rank the same? I want to say no but not 100% certain.

If not, I am guessing he is using the Navy lexicon to throw folks off and attract the word searchers.

If has SAW stocks and PEQ-15, then he is definetely not your run of the mill crook.

For the Army PEQ-15 are a sensitive item and supposed to be accounted for via a hands on inventory every 30 days by either the unit Commander or an appointed rep. on a rotating basis.

So there is plenty to this story.

If somebody gets me the serial number, this can get fun.

Wow, he is even offering "World Wide" express shipping. :eek:

There's the intent for an export violation.

This is all what I told him and he alters the ad to remove the Brand New Realdeal part. And now it is just listed as a $4k airsoft toy. I'm going to ask for the serial number today.

The original ad and all the Emails I have calling him out along with a link to this thread have been forwarded to these folks (some colleagues of mine)
Fort Carson CID Office
Special Agent-in-Charge
48th Military Police Detachment (CID) (CASE)
6525 Specker Ave., Building 1816
Fort Carson, CO 80913-4203
E-mail: carsCID056@conus.army.mil
COM: 719-526-3991
DSN: 691

I don't sell on E-Gay but isn't there something in their policies about stolen or government products?

There is enough in his add description alone to open an investigation by even the most rookie investigator.

Dear ssg1234a,

If this is a model for airsoft use why do you want
and expect $3,999 for it? This is a controlled and
serialized piece of US gear. Steal Much?
Staff Sergeant.

Dear sere0331,

This is an airsoft unit, but just because I'm asking $3,999 for it, doesn't mean anyone pays that amount for a toy.

- ssg1234a


Dear ssg1234a,

I believe your description says "Brand new,
realdeal PEQ15 ATPIAL by Insight". Is it real or
fake. You could be facing a felony. Screen shots
of this auction will be turned into my CID office
Monday morning.

- sere0331

Dear sere0331,

Now it is corrected, please see my other auction. Thank you for your time.

- ssg1234a



Dear ssg1234a,

So to prove it is an airsoft toy and not the
realdeal why don't you post a picture of it
showing the serial number? You know where you
blacked it out?

Dear sere0331,

There you go, you can sleep your nights safely now. The only thing real with this plastic box is Insight sticker set that was used to replace original Hong Kong stickers. You should be given a medal for being such a hero with toys like this.

- ssg1234a



He posts a picture of the "serial number" on Ebay and (GASP) it's all zeros

i would not even bother talking to the guy. FBI. They will contact ebay, get his real info...

According to his location he's in Finland.

i would not even bother talking to the guy. FBI. They will contact ebay, get his real info...

Pete,
Just call the COS FBI office?
or forward it like I did to CID?

Well I emailed ncis. haha

Did you notice he sold one already on Feb. 14th? Link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230436816766&ru=http://shop.ebay.com:80/%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38%26_nkw%3D2304368167 66%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_500wt_1022

According to his location he's in Finland.

:confused: it does say item is in US

I quess just see what CID says about it

looks like he bought some body armor
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280424565533

suscribed.
Keep it up, fellas.

Can't wait to hear updates.

Am I missing the point on why you guys are grilling his ass? Just because it is .gov property, can this not be purchased?

Am I missing the point on why you guys are grilling his ass? Just because it is .gov property, can this not be purchased?


It is government property and he appears to have stolen it....no fuck it...it is stolen and he is making money off your tax dollars and money that should be going to the troops is now paying to replace this equipment.

I have no idea what I'm looking at.

I have no idea what I'm looking at.

It is a weapon mounted light/laser to aid in target identification and engagement.


They are also pretty handy for calling in aircraft to targets......not to mention lighting up the ground in front of you so you don't fall on your face.

:laughing:

Information here. (http://www.insightlights.com/products-atpial.htm)

I reported it too. I did a quick search and found another one... WTF?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Insight-Technology-ATPIAL-PEQ15-PEQ-15-Infrared-Laser_W0QQitemZ270526767332QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item3efca6e0e4

Up for auction is a new Insight Technology ATPIAL AN/PEQ-15. Please review the detailed photos, this is an authentic unit. This is not some an Airsoft clone or cheap knock off, this is the real deal. So others cannot steal my photos and commit fraud I have obscured the serial number and put my eBay user name over the auction's photos....


The ATPIAL is almost impossible for a civilain to obtain and trust me its tough for a LEO to get one!
HMMM!

Up for auction is a new Insight Technology ATPIAL AN/PEQ-15. Please review the detailed photos, this is an authentic unit. This is not some an Airsoft clone or cheap knock off, this is the real deal. So others cannot steal my photos and commit fraud I have obscured the serial number and put my eBay user name over the auction's photos....


The ATPIAL is almost impossible for a civilain to obtain and trust me its tough for a LEO to get one!
HMMM!

wrong, there's 2 on ebay, click the buy it now and its all yours :flipoff2:

bad supply clerks taking advantage of the system and selling the extras and getting caught = the reason i cannot order tools or other stuff that my team lacks over here. i couldnt get nomex flight suits for my guys last time. looked on ebay cause i was gonna buy with my own money and found a CPT in Balad that had over 100 different auctions on ebay for flight suits NIB. dumass's ebay name was CPT1stnamelastname, one quick loo in AKO and found his info. reported.

I hope CID/NCIS bust these fools wide open.

bad supply clerks taking advantage of the system and selling the extras and getting caught = the reason i cannot order tools or other stuff that my team lacks over here. i couldnt get nomex flight suits for my guys last time. looked on ebay cause i was gonna buy with my own money and found a CPT in Balad that had over 100 different auctions on ebay for flight suits NIB. dumass's ebay name was CPT1stnamelastname, one quick loo in AKO and found his info. reported.



What gear are you trying to get that you can't?


Seriously?


I have been around more than a day or two so let me know and unless it is Class II or VII you should be able to get it easily and even if it is one of those classes you can do an ONS (operational needs statement) and usually get it.

I don't know shit about you but I am on my way back from Afghanistan right now and can assure you there wasn't much I wanted that I couldn't get.

What gear are you trying to get that you can't?


Seriously?


I have been around more than a day or two so let me know and unless it is Class II or VII you should be able to get it easily and even if it is one of those classes you can do an ONS (operational needs statement) and usually get it.

I don't know shit about you but I am on my way back from Afghanistan right now and can assure you there wasn't much I wanted that I couldn't get.

it is way easier in afghanistan, due to the draw-down no body wants to spend money. my team has only been here a month so hopefully i get some connections to hook us up. we deploy as 5 man support teams

i would not even bother talking to the guy. FBI. They will contact ebay, get his real info...

My thoughts too.
I would have tipped him off, because he can quickly "lose" the item.
Just report it, and move on.

Quite frankly, I would hope those on e-bay as a sting operation. However, I suspect that I am wrong and there are really dumbasses selling stolen military equipment on e-bay. Selling a kevlar helmet is one thing, but to sell a laser targeting device is a whole different story.

it is way easier in afghanistan, due to the draw-down no body wants to spend money. my team has only been here a month so hopefully i get some connections to hook us up. we deploy as 5 man support teams

What are you after? Does it have an NSN? Do you have a government credit card? Usually smaller elements get that? Who are you supporting? Can they get it? If no issue then fine but I am willing to bet there is an SSA somewhere there that has it sitting on the shelf.

My thoughts too.
I would have tipped him off, because he can quickly "lose" the item.
Just report it, and move on.

Once he is identified it is easy to figure out even if he tries to claim he lost it. Military maintains records for those things for a VERY LONG time...as in the entire history of the item since it entered inventory. Either way this guy is fucked provided he is investigated as there is no such thing as plausible deniability on these things.

Equipment manufacturers also have a very good record system for parts broken down by lot, shipper, etc. You just have to know where to look.

:evil:

I hope they burn they get their asses burned in a very public fashion.
It really concerns me that my family and friends are fighting, and some dumb ass is possibly e-baying their advantage to the enemy.

So how many in this thread are going to go hunt down evil-doer Ebayer .gov supply guys selling ripped off MREs?

stirthepotslowly

So how many in this thread are going to go hunt down evil-doer Ebayer .gov supply guys selling ripped off MREs?

stirthepotslowly

that chaps my ass to no end. they pop up on the boards around here from the hurricanes.

So how many in this thread are going to go hunt down evil-doer Ebayer .gov supply guys selling ripped off MREs?

stirthepotslowly

When I was down in New Orleans for Katrina/Rita, they were selling MRE's 2 blocks from our distrobution site.

Now PEQ-15 related, my unit just had inventory and we had one missing! Well after final formation it was found in the amnesty box. Fawkin thieves :mad3:

I was always told, "There is only 1 thief in the Army, everyone else is trying to get their shit back!"

So how many in this thread are going to go hunt down evil-doer Ebayer .gov supply guys selling ripped off MREs?

stirthepotslowly

Stealing is stealing, but there's a HUGE difference between MRE's and an ATPIAL.

Stealing is stealing, but there's a HUGE difference between MRE's and an ATPIAL.

Stealing is stealing. However, what material is most likely to be stolen in volume....MREs or PEQ-15s? Also, is a bulk package of MREs more or less accessible than PEQ-15s.

A pallet of MREs isn't dangerous in the hands of the enemy(unless he drops it on you), and a lot of them contain some form of pork, so even though you might be feeding the jihad, you're still doing your part by keeping them from their virgins.:D

A laser target designator, on the other hand, simply makes a weapon more accurate(when used properly), especially at night. Granted the ATPIAL is designed to be used with NVGs, but bad guys have been found with NVGs on the battlefield numerous times, some from dead Americans, others bought on the open market and smuggled home.

Field Marshall Edwin Rommel would disagree. An enemy won't get too far without food or in Rommel's case...oil.

I know what ATPIALs are used for.

I wonder how many laser guided munitions have been launched at Allied targets by insurgents? What good is an ATPIAL without the munition and more importantly, the proper manner to deploy it?

It does not guide laser guided munitions, it's purpose is for aiming at night with NVGs and target illumination for supporting arms i.e. armor, aircraft, and heavy guns. It is employed attached and zeroed to the individual weapon system via a rail system or carrying handle adapter. The PEQ-15 emits both visible and non-visible (IR) beams depending on the conditions it is used in.

Field Marshall Edwin Rommel would disagree. An enemy won't get too far without food or in Rommel's case...oil.

I know what ATPIALs are used for.

I wonder how many laser guided munitions have been launched at Allied targets by insurgents? What good is an ATPIAL without the munition and more importantly, the proper manner to deploy it?

you mean Erwin Rommel...just curious...

Mre is a far cry from a laser.
People buying MRE's from e-bay aren't going to be using them against our troops.

an item like that besides being used for night time shooting can also be used to direct fire on our troops in the right situation.
Not hard tactics to visualize.

That laser will also fuck your eyes up quick, an IR laser aimed during the day in a soldiers face would never be "seen" and would fuck them up.

Mre is a far cry from a laser.
People buying MRE's from e-bay aren't going to be using them against our troops.

So in essence, stealing seemingly innocuous USGov materials is acceptable, but stealing USGov materials that possibly could be used at the front is where we draw the line?:blackstir:

an item like that besides being used for night time shooting can also be used to direct fire on our troops in the right situation. Not hard tactics to visualize.

That laser will also fuck your eyes up quick, an IR laser aimed during the day in a soldiers face would never be "seen" and would fuck them up.

As far as directing fire, other shooters would have to wear NVG to see the lit target right? I know some LE helicopters have laser illuminators that light up the intended target like a bonfire....but only to those officers who have NV monoculars/googles.

As far as directing fire, other shooters would have to wear NVG to see the lit target right? I know some LE helicopters have laser illuminators that light up the intended target like a bonfire....but only to those officers who have NV monoculars/googles.

Basically yes. remember it also has a naked eye setting.

But imaging not suing it so that other bad guys know where to shot, but rather to introduce a blue on blue incident.

Basically yes. remember it also has a naked eye setting.

But imaging not suing it so that other bad guys know where to shot, but rather to introduce a blue on blue incident.

Gotcha....didn't think of friendly incidents.

I guess there is no way to get the exif data off the picture if he uploaded it to Ebay servers right?

bad supply clerks taking advantage of the system and selling the extras and getting caught = the reason i cannot order tools or other stuff that my team lacks over here. i couldnt get nomex flight suits for my guys last time. looked on ebay cause i was gonna buy with my own money and found a CPT in Balad that had over 100 different auctions on ebay for flight suits NIB. dumass's ebay name was CPT1stnamelastname, one quick loo in AKO and found his info. reported.

When I was in Iraq in '05, myself and the other gunners (gun truck escorts) could not get our supply sgt to get us goggles as ours were tore up from the dust. She told us she could not get new goggles or lenses. Myself and another guy got word that one of our units tractor trailers were loaded with a case of goggles (and the bitch could get us any). Needless to say, that case never left our FOB and all of my gunners in the platoon had brand new goggles...:flipoff2:

The Army way: beg, borrow, steal, and trade... who needs supply

The Army way: beg, borrow, steal, and trade... who needs supply

We follow the 10% rule on everything we haul. :D

We follow the 10% rule on everything we haul. :D

Shipping and Handling?

My brother does this for a living. He spends 8-10 hours a day cruising classified and ebay listings looking for shit just like this. Most popular item? MREs.

My brother does this for a living. He spends 8-10 hours a day cruising classified and ebay listings looking for shit just like this. Most popular item? MREs.

Please see beginning of this thread....:D

Please see beginning of this thread....:D

Yeah. And?

Yeah. And?

Nevermind....I thought MREs were discussed at the beginning.....

so wtf is a peq 15 and why is it so bad?

so wtf is a peq 15 and why is it so bad?

Read the whole thread

Read the whole thread

^^ this

Reading the thread title should have given you a clue.

I hope this guy fries.

As for the MRE's, it's probably some E-2 selling the ones the chow hall gave him when the electricity is out. If it's a supply-tard skimming, they deserve their Alpha One Five, but this shit is in a whole different league.

so..i sent the guy a message and offered 2500 for it and he turned me down.

Talked to CID today about my email and turned over all the correspondence I had with this Tard. They said that they already had a lock on an IP and location so.....
Door kicking with the Raid Shirts?

Talked to CID today about my email and turned over all the correspondence I had with this Tard. They said that they already had a lock on an IP and location so.....
Door kicking with the Raid Shirts?
i wonder if the eaby thief is in the i-RAQ? there is a yard here where all incoming excess stuff from closed down fobs come to. they sort it, take what they want, then allow the rest of camp pick thru it. what is left over gets destroyed, back in the system or drmo. got my own supply guy now and his ass is going to work over there for awhile. inside guy. some of the people that work at the yard, i have heard, have massive ebay accounts. probably where some of this shit is coming from. i dont mind the idea of the yard sharing with camp with the stuff that can be actually used, its the guy trying to make a buck off sumthing one of our own may need but cant get.

i wonder if the eaby thief is in the i-RAQ? there is a yard here where all incoming excess stuff from closed down fobs come to. they sort it, take what they want, then allow the rest of camp pick thru it. what is left over gets destroyed, back in the system or drmo. got my own supply guy now and his ass is going to work over there for awhile. inside guy. some of the people that work at the yard, i have heard, have massive ebay accounts. probably where some of this shit is coming from. i dont mind the idea of the yard sharing with camp with the stuff that can be actually used, its the guy trying to make a buck off sumthing one of our own may need but cant get.

Yep, I've got ZERO problem with that stuff being made available over there. I do have a problem with the fucks who take the stuff not because they can use it over there, but because they can sell it and make a buck. Fuck them.

was on local board and found this link:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=126&t=736467

I have 20 cases of 2011 and 2012 inspection date mre's (USGI).
10 A and 10 B

45.00 per case x20 with shipping would be @ 1050.00 shipped

I will ship them on a pallet ( common carrier ). shipping will be around 7.50 per case.

Call me at 864-423-7674 or email at Harkness@charter.net

Thanks,

William

PS If you are close you can just pick them up if you like.

Palletized MRE's STOLEN??????? UNPOSSIBLE!

MRE's are labelled "Government property.... Not for resale" end of story, that shit is illegal

MRE's are labelled "Government property.... Not for resale" end of story, that shit is illegal

but I see them being sold at the Commisary sometimes. Can they do that?

cheaper than dirt sells them along with the similar shtf suppliers.

They don't sell USGI though. Their MREs come in packages with different markings.

^ yeah what he said. they are repackaged or packages specifically for civilian use. not sure about the commisary, and i have no idea why they would sell them.

I beleive they are in the camping section

Meh... gimme a can of Beef w/Spiced Sauce C-rat any day...

Trade ya!:smokin:

mmmm c-rats!

always liked the t-ration cakes too

how about here on pirate? not optics but just as bad, do some google searching.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11220152

I haven't checked govliquidation in a while but as of about 2 years ago it was not uncommon to see PALLETS of H1s available.

Now that we are switching from HMMWVs to newer vehicles, expect this to increase.

8 lugs can only be used in non-armor (998, 1025, etc) applications as 1114, 1056, etc. all require many more bolts to keep the rim together as the trucks are a lot heavier and the military will probably start using those across the entire line to save money with one part number.

I haven't checked govliquidation in a while but as of about 2 years ago it was not uncommon to see PALLETS of H1s available.

Now that we are switching from HMMWVs to newer vehicles, expect this to increase.

8 lugs can only be used in non-armor (998, 1025, etc) applications as 1114, 1056, etc. all require many more bolts to keep the rim together as the trucks are a lot heavier and the military will probably start using those across the entire line to save money with one part number.

as someone who owns a set I know exactly how hard the new T/A's are to get. I have been hunting DRMO and pestering people who do big tire runs for a year for just ONE tire, never mind another 24 bolt wheel, I just need a spare tire that matches.

BFG Baja T/As are not a "common" DRMO item, 4 maybe..once in a while but no way in fuck the number he got. Remember these are not GoodYear MTRs or even TSLs.

how about here on pirate? not optics but just as bad, do some google searching.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11220152

Go Get 'em Doc.

When's the countdown start until this gets really ugly?

Already started, looks like.

as someone who owns a set I know exactly how hard the new T/A's are to get. I have been hunting DRMO and pestering people who do big tire runs for a year for just ONE tire, never mind another 24 bolt wheel, I just need a spare tire that matches.

BFG Baja T/As are not a "common" DRMO item, 4 maybe..once in a while but no way in fuck the number he got. Remember these are not GoodYear MTRs or even TSLs.


Keep in mind they are reseting all the HMMWVs from Iraq that are going back through the rebuild shops so parts might be scarce.

It has been a few years since I tried looking.

there is an assload of these on ebay right now!

there is an assload of these on ebay right now!

tires or optics?

I still need a fawking spare tire...I am ok for now on optics :laughing:

Back in 2006 I was living in the BEQ with a guy that worked in supply, and was stealing aircraft parts and selling them on Ebay. Most of what he sold was purchased by different parties. Turns out, the GOV ain't that stupid. Everything he sold was purchased, traced, and was sitting in a room at the squadrin.

Let's just say, he didn't make any money.

As for the MRE's, I don't know how long they last but isn't there a stipulation where they could be 10 years old? Is it possible some of the MRE's popping up are there so the solders don't HAVE to eat them? I know, a little out side the box.

tires or optics?

I still need a fawking spare tire...I am ok for now on optics :laughing:

optics.

As for the MRE's, I don't know how long they last but isn't there a stipulation where they could be 10 years old? Is it possible some of the MRE's popping up are there so the solders don't HAVE to eat them? I know, a little out side the box.

Don't know about MREs and current rules but I do know that I was eating C-rations in the early to mid-80s that were packed during the Korean War. The pound cake would lock up the bowels of an elephant. The chocolate nut roll was about as bad. Best desert was cobbler we made with the canned peaches, sugar and crackers. A hot trading item was the round chocolate bars that we called road wheels - hard as a brick but tasted pretty good even after 30 years. Good times there!

not sure if this is the same guy or not.. either way its good news..

GREAT FALLS, Mont. — A 25-year-old airman has been sentenced to 10 months in prison and ordered to pay $48,000 in restitution for stealing and reselling Air Force equipment, including night vision goggles and a laser aiming device.

Senior Airman Delmas Dingess of Great Falls was sentenced Thursday by U.S. District Judge Sam Haddon, who also ordered him to serve three years on supervised release.

Prosecutors say the thefts occurred between December 2006 and March 2007 while Dingess was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base. Dingess was assigned to his unit’s equipment locker, where he received and disbursed equipment.

Prosecutors say he stole mostly small items and sold them on eBay.

Authorities say the more sensitive items, like the night vision goggles, have been recovered.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2010/04/ap_airman_sentenced_043010/

Nice!

What is funny about this is all sensitive items (weapons, NVGs, etc.) are tracked and can be traced all the way to the end user.

who do I need to contact to investigate a peq-14 for sale?

a local board I visit has this ad "A buddy has a Peq-14 weapons light he would like to sell Those who know what this is know how rare this is. It is as new with all parts, manual, remote switch, and case. He is asking $1600 and I can get pics to those interested."

Tell him to take a picture of the serial number plate. Tell him that you can tell if its a Chinese knock off by the serial number. If you get a serial number that you could contact Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID).

Its no goddamn wonder our team doesn't have these, they are all on Ebay.

Its no goddamn wonder our team doesn't have these, they are all on Ebay.

I'm sorry, but that made me laugh. :beer:

Its no goddamn wonder our team doesn't have these, they are all on Ebay.


Noooooooo, your team doesn't have them because you are not authorized by MTOE and it requires an ONS from your S4 to PBO for approval by DA so they will give them to you.

:laughing:

In other news there are civilian equivalents that give you about the same measure of performance that can be purchased with a government credit card but I am willing to bet you don't have one of those either.

:flipoff2:

Noooooooo, your team doesn't have them because you are not authorized by MTOE and it requires an ONS from your S4 to PBO for approval by DA so they will give them to you.

:laughing:

In other news there are civilian equivalents that give you about the same measure of performance that can be purchased with a government credit card but I am willing to bet you don't have one of those either.

:flipoff2:

actually :flipoff2: My Group is authorized. They are sitting in the arms room right now. I was making a fricking joke. Atleast someone got it. I choose not to carry them because I am not a door kicker this rotation but sitting in a staff level maintenance position and dont feel like adding more weight to carry when I do carry my M4. :flipoff2:

EDIT: Nope dont have a GPC. My cheif wants me to tale the class to have one for our garrison DODDAC but I am not home enough to make it worth while. So they gave it up to one of the HQ guys. Besides, there is too much bullshit involved in having one. Even if I did have one, there are better things I could be spending my money on like repair parts.

who do I need to contact to investigate a peq-14 for sale?

a local board I visit has this ad "A buddy has a Peq-14 weapons light he would like to sell Those who know what this is know how rare this is. It is as new with all parts, manual, remote switch, and case. He is asking $1600 and I can get pics to those interested."

If you notify CID/NCIS someone will investigate it and get the jackass who's selling it. It takes awhile though, I notified both CID and the FBI just in case the seller in the OP was a civvy.

actually :flipoff2: My Group is authorized. They are sitting in the arms room right now. I was making a fricking joke. Atleast someone got it. I choose not to carry them because I am not a door kicker this rotation but sitting in a staff level maintenance position and dont feel like adding more weight to carry when I do carry my M4. :flipoff2:

EDIT: Nope dont have a GPC. My cheif wants me to tale the class to have one for our garrison DODDAC but I am not home enough to make it worth while. So they gave it up to one of the HQ guys. Besides, there is too much bullshit involved in having one. Even if I did have one, there are better things I could be spending my money on like repair parts.

Then quit yer bitching.

Then quit yer bitching.

:shaking:

Then quit yer bitching.

Not bitching and now your just being a prick! Like I said before, I was making a joke. Literacy, comprehension and humor, not your strongest traits? :flipoff2:

Not bitching and now your just being a prick! Like I said before, I was making a joke. Literacy, comprehension and humor, not your strongest traits? :flipoff2:



Yea, 'cause your joke was so damn obvious.

And yes, I am a prick....and you are being an ass....you know the rest.

:flipoff2:

Yea, 'cause your joke was so damn obvious.

And yes, I am a prick....and you are being an ass....you know the rest.

:flipoff2:lol so thats makes you poopdick lol

anyhow. If an item is bought at gov't auction and it says "Property of the U.S. Government", is the purchaser required to remove that before resale? I have seen lots of stuff at pawn shops around Ft. Bragg with items for sale with these markings.

lol so thats makes you poopdick lol

anyhow. If an item is bought at gov't auction and it says "Property of the U.S. Government", is the purchaser required to remove that before resale? I have seen lots of stuff at pawn shops around Ft. Bragg with items for sale with these markings.


You can if you want but I haven't seen anything on it.

I have plenty of rifle mags, military accessories, etc. marked US Government that are classified as expendable.

I knew it was a joke.

lol so thats makes you poopdick lol

anyhow. If an item is bought at gov't auction and it says "Property of the U.S. Government", is the purchaser required to remove that before resale? I have seen lots of stuff at pawn shops around Ft. Bragg with items for sale with these markings.

Lots of 1911's have da gubmint markings on them, but are legit privately owned firearms.