: d44 ?
2001tacoma 10-09-2002, 03:54 PM i'm trying to verify some info on the d44 reverse rotation axle.
what exact years did these come on?
what is the wms to wms?
on stock ford where there different lenght radius arms used over the years.
sorry to ask all these ?'s but but computer won't allow the search to open
thaks
Originally posted by 2001tacoma
i'm trying to verify some info on the d44 reverse rotation axle.
what exact years did these come on?
what is the wms to wms?
on stock ford where there different lenght radius arms used over the years.
sorry to ask all these ?'s but but computer won't allow the search to open
thaks I'd like to know the answer also. Anyone?
SittonHigh 10-09-2002, 07:42 PM The disk brake version of the fullsize reverse rotation is found on the 77'-79' F-150 and 78'-79' Bronco. The narrow 44 disck brake is found under 77' bronco maybe earlier I don't remember. I think the wms to wms on the fullsize is about 65"? I don't remember but I can check tommorrow if no one posts it sooner. The years I stated are for radius arm,rev cut, dana 44, with disk brakes. Other years might have them but I know these do. And all raduis arms are the same length as far as I know.
smurfsdad 10-09-2002, 07:49 PM There is no reverse cut on an early bronco
SittonHigh 10-09-2002, 08:45 PM Sorry, thinking of just the disk brakes on the EB. Was in a hurry. Thanks for the correction.
2001tacoma 10-10-2002, 03:56 AM i was just trying to narrow down the search and make sure the axles are what they are supposed to be. i have located 5 of them for some tacoma sas for a few people and i'm trying to do the leg work. don't want to front the money for these if the are the wrong thing
SittonHigh 10-10-2002, 07:23 AM Are they going to keep the radius arm setup. I am trying to talk one of my buddies with a Tacoma into putting ford fullwidth axles with the radius arm setup. If you want to narrow the coil spring perches to match the tacoma frame you need the 77' F-150 front end. You can cut the axle wedges off and move them inboard more. You can't cut the 78'-79' wedges off so your stuck with the springs being spaced to wide. If they do this drop me a line. I would like to see some pics.
Originally posted by 2001tacoma
i was just trying to narrow down the search and make sure the axles are what they are supposed to be. i have located 5 of them for some tacoma sas for a few people and i'm trying to do the leg work. don't want to front the money for these if the are the wrong thing You want to know for sure, right? Get the BOM off the center front of each axle. It'll start with a 6 and be six number long with a "-"then a seventh number. Then post the BOM number with in this post. I might be able to help you then.
Originally posted by SittonHigh
Are they going to keep the radius arm setup. I am trying to talk one of my buddies with a Tacoma into putting ford fullwidth axles with the radius arm setup. If you want to narrow the coil spring perches to match the tacoma frame you need the 77' F-150 front end. You can cut the axle wedges off and move them inboard more. You can't cut the 78'-79' wedges off so your stuck with the springs being spaced to wide. If they do this drop me a line. I would like to see some pics. Where did you get your info on the 78-79 axles?
It's not just 77, try the search newbie.
2001tacoma 10-10-2002, 06:22 PM Originally posted by Mr.N
You want to know for sure, right? Get the BOM off the center front of each axle. It'll start with a 6 and be six number long with a "-"then a seventh number. Then post the BOM number with in this post. I might be able to help you then.
i get that after work on friday. thank you
2001tacoma 10-10-2002, 06:25 PM Originally posted by SittonHigh
Are they going to keep the radius arm setup. I am trying to talk one of my buddies with a Tacoma into putting ford fullwidth axles with the radius arm setup. If you want to narrow the coil spring perches to match the tacoma frame you need the 77' F-150 front end. You can cut the axle wedges off and move them inboard more. You can't cut the 78'-79' wedges off so your stuck with the springs being spaced to wide. If they do this drop me a line. I would like to see some pics.
they will probaly do something similar using an aftermarket radius arm. they will still have to rotate the knukles. thats as far as i know right now.
Rerard 10-10-2002, 08:54 PM why not go with a waggy44?.. its already 6 lug so it will match the toy rear end, perfect width as well..
I might be wrong but I believe the stock tacoma t-case is a drivers side output versus the pass side diff on a waggy 44.
Rerard 10-10-2002, 09:58 PM Originally posted by mda
I might be wrong but I believe the stock tacoma t-case is a drivers side output versus the pass side diff on a waggy 44.
Ah didnt think about that.. what about the older waggy's though.. they were passenger side.
2001tacoma 10-11-2002, 05:43 AM Originally posted by Rerard
Ah didnt think about that.. what about the older waggy's though.. they were passenger side.
most that do the tacoma sas are using waggy fronts but he wants to be different and use the ford d44 and coils and i think coils in the rear
http://www.mc-tunes.com/images/bigfun.html
here is his site
4Bangler 10-11-2002, 05:52 AM quote:
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Originally posted by mda
I might be wrong but I believe the stock tacoma t-case is a drivers side output versus the pass side diff on a waggy 44.
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Originally posted by Rerard
Ah didnt think about that.. what about the older waggy's though.. they were passenger side.
Huh? Didn't think about what your were typing either.
Pre '79 Wagoneers are passnger drop, low pinion, with cast in leaf spring pads in a SUA configuration, '80 and up are driver's drop, low pinion, with cast in SUA pads, both axles are in the 60" WMS neighborhood with the stock Jeep six lug hubs.
NOTPRETTY 10-11-2002, 12:13 PM Mr N,
Does all F150 77-79 have the knock off radius arm mounts? Is that what you are saying. And, can you confirm that all 78-79 Broncos don't have the knock off mounts. Also...are they all reverse...?:confused:
2001tacoma 10-11-2002, 04:27 PM Originally posted by Mr.N
You want to know for sure, right? Get the BOM off the center front of each axle. It'll start with a 6 and be six number long with a "-"then a seventh number. Then post the BOM number with in this post. I might be able to help you then.
i'm not sure if you mean the # on the tag on the diff if so here it i it has the cast in things to position the radius arms610047-9
Originally posted by 2001tacoma
i'm not sure if you mean the # on the tag on the diff if so here it i it has the cast in things to position the radius arms610047-9
you have a D-44 out of a 1978 1/2 F-150 Fulltime T-case(NP-203)
3.50:1 gears , open diff.
Eric
2001tacoma 10-11-2002, 04:51 PM Originally posted by Alpo23
you have a D-44 out of a 1978 1/2 F-150 Fulltime T-case(NP-203)
3.50:1 gears , open diff.
Eric
thank you do you also happen to know the wms to wms measurement?
Originally posted by NOTPRETTY
Mr N,
Does all F150 77-79 have the knock off radius arm mounts? Is that what you are saying. And, can you confirm that all 78-79 Broncos don't have the knock off mounts. Also...are they all reverse...?:confused: Not sure what you mean by knock off radius mounts. The 78-79 F150 and Bronco have the same axle, nothing different.
Rerard 10-11-2002, 08:18 PM Originally posted by 4Bangler
Huh? Didn't think about what your were typing either.
No I misread, I thought he said he was look for a pass drop... I know that the 80's are driver's.. check out my avatar, thats an 84 waggy d44 :flipoff2:
NOTPRETTY 10-11-2002, 08:34 PM I mean Axle Wedges which have the c-bushings sitting on them as part of the radius arms. It was my understanding that 77-79 F150 D44R axle wedges can be more easily removed/knocked off and moved/welded inward. It was also my understanding the 78-79 Bronco D44's were cast and harder/major pain in the ass to remove. Am I correct?
Originally posted by NOTPRETTY
I mean Axle Wedges which have the c-bushings sitting on them as part of the radius arms. It was my understanding that 77-79 F150 D44R axle wedges can be more easily removed/knocked off and moved/welded inward. It was also my understanding the 78-79 Bronco D44's were cast and harder/major pain in the ass to remove. Am I correct? OK, now I get it. The 78-79 F150 and Bronco axles both have the cast coil mount. stay away from these.
You want a 73-77 1/2 ton truck axle, they have 4 seperate pieces that are welded to the thicker axle tube, and easy to romove. If you want to run Ford disk brakes go with 76-77, but you could always get a 73-75 for cheap and run chevy brakes.
2001tacoma 10-27-2002, 07:30 AM Originally posted by Alpo23
you have a D-44 out of a 1978 1/2 F-150 Fulltime T-case(NP-203)
3.50:1 gears , open diff.
Eric
is this a high pinion axle?
hi pinion disc brake D44 axles came in fords as early as 73-74 :flipoff2: the cast wedges appered in 78-79 last two years they used them before the TTB crap :D
now i have no proof ,but can tell ya ive seen them in the junk yards and have bought quite a few of them :rolleyes:
emsoffroad 10-27-2002, 01:41 PM All 1/2 tons were HP44 Fronts since 68.
Disc brake standard since 76, 5 bolt splindle
Cast pad/ball joint 78-79
ball joints started in 71
Never seen a BOM still readable, and never needed one. It won't tell you anything you can't look at.
Originally posted by emsoffroad
All 1/2 tons were HP44 Fronts since 68.I've seen earlier, but no need to start that again.
Originally posted by emsoffroad
Disc brake standard since 76, 5 bolt splindle. Are you saying the 5 bolt spindle didn't start until 76?
What do you know about the 6 bolt spindel on a 70's axle?
Originally posted by emsoffroad
Cast pad/ball joint 78-79 Agreed.
Originally posted by emsoffroad
ball joints started in 71Agreed.
Originally posted by emsoffroad
Never seen a BOM still readable, and never needed one. It won't tell you anything you can't look at. disagree. Most have is easy found by scraping a little goop off.
http://littlekeylime.com/MrN/Dana44templocation/images/Dana44/bom.jpg
SittonHigh 10-27-2002, 08:10 PM Earlier I said he needed a 77' because I thought this was the only year these came with high pinion, disk brakes, and welded on wedges. Didn't the 76' have dana 44 low pinion? or was that only on the F-250? and before that weren't they drum brakes? I am sure there are exceptions but isn't this the norm?
emsoffroad 10-28-2002, 12:15 AM The 68 thing is as far as I know, and right don't even care about the rears till they get ball joints. The nice thing about the kingpin is you don't have to worry about them poping apart. Then again your ball won't either, unless it is wasted.
Im sure the BOM is on the rears I get, I just never look(ed) for it. It is prety much useless info. Rears get swaped, gears changed, ect.
The 5 bolt spindle is just used on the Full size disc brakes. The six is used on drum. Now that you bring the subject up, I never even looked to see if you can use the hub/rotor on a drum spindle. Will have to do that when I get home.
Now for the F-250s. All are low pinion till 77. In 77 you can find either low pinion 44, HP44, low pinion 60, or HP60. The only one I havn't seen personaly is the low pinion 60. But since I pulled a low pinion 60 out of a 76 F-250, I would guess that it would be a choice.
Also here is a question; What the hell is the "snow fighter" package? I know it is not on the truck(ie no sticker or emblem), at least none of the ones I've seen. Was this listed on the factory window sticker? I always wondered about this.
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