So this last weekend I went to high lakes with my 4x4 group and went up to saddle lake, A yota in front of me took about 10 minutes trying to attempt to climb out of saddle, He finally had to get winched out after three feet of progress. My turn was up and I nailed it up and got about 5 feet further then the toy, My buddy troy hooked his winch to my truck and moved it about 6 inches before the Planatary gears :nuke:. 8000 lb Mile farter bites the dust. Ill try to get pics of the action asap, Lesson learned though, sometimes antiquated farm equipment can run vertical, and when I go and buy a winch its nothing less then 9000 lbs strength.