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poppycock 10-10-2002, 06:23 PM so i got 2 toyota 3rds, carrier bearings, and spools. i'm going to run the stock 4.10 gears. so all i have to do is set up the backlash? what special tools do i need? i called "the rearend shop" in santa rosa today and they qouted me $150ea. :laughing: anyone know of a shop that will do it cheap? bobaki 10-10-2002, 07:03 PM you can do it yourself ,I'll help....:D Bill4rest 10-10-2002, 07:04 PM No sweat poppy set the backlash. run a pattern. and your probably get it the 1st time. Just feel the backlash on a "good" 3rd and set it up the same.....maybe a tad tighter with the spool. MuddMachine 10-10-2002, 07:30 PM Originally posted by Bill4rest No sweat poppy set the backlash. run a pattern. and your probably get it the 1st time. Just feel the backlash on a "good" 3rd and set it up the same.....maybe a tad tighter with the spool. Bingo ! :D DougO 10-10-2002, 10:42 PM You dont want to forget about bearing preload, This is a basic write up I have for setting preload/backlash .. Side Bearing Preload Mount dial indicator on tooth-side of ringear Turn side adjuster on back side of ringear Turn side adjuster in until indicator stops moving Side adjuster starts to tighten up also you will have a "0" zero backlash Make sure tooth-side adjuster is still loose and you didnt bottom out on it Add 1-2 adjuster notches to that side Mount dial indicator on backside of ringear Turn tooth-side adjuster in until dial indicator moves.Side adjuster tightens up Add 1-2 adjuster notches Bearing Pre-Load is set, make sure bearing caps are not tightened up before doing this. Keep atleast one revolution loose Backlash To increase Start on backside of ringear side adjuster Backout one notch Turn tooth-side side adjuster in 1 notch To decrease Start on tooth-side side adjuster Turn out one notch Turn back or ringear side adjuster in one notch Checking Backlash Mount dial indicator so indicator touches convex side of tooth Hold pinion Rock ringear back and forth watching dial indicator MuddMachine 10-11-2002, 05:39 AM Originally posted by DougO You dont want to forget about bearing preload, This is a basic write up I have for setting preload/backlash .. Side Bearing Preload Mount dial indicator on tooth-side of ringear Turn side adjuster on back side of ringear Turn side adjuster in until indicator stops moving Side adjuster starts to tighten up also you will have a "0" zero backlash Make sure tooth-side adjuster is still loose and you didnt bottom out on it Add 1-2 adjuster notches to that side Mount dial indicator on backside of ringear Turn tooth-side adjuster in until dial indicator moves.Side adjuster tightens up Add 1-2 adjuster notches Bearing Pre-Load is set, make sure bearing caps are not tightened up before doing this. Keep atleast one revolution loose Backlash To increase Start on backside of ringear side adjuster Backout one notch Turn tooth-side side adjuster in 1 notch To decrease Start on tooth-side side adjuster Turn out one notch Turn back or ringear side adjuster in one notch Checking Backlash Mount dial indicator so indicator touches convex side of tooth Hold pinion Rock ringear back and forth watching dial indicator This is correct but not necessary. My buddy tried to tell me all this stuff and i told him to do the ole "wham bam in we go" deal. He said i was fawked in the head :shaking: So he took it to the rear end dude across the streeet and he did exactly what i said, lol. Wham Bam....... Good to Go ! :flipoff2: scwafish 10-11-2002, 05:49 AM Poppy-If your going to spool it why not use a mini-spool, then you won't have to change anything. A mini should be PLENTY strong for a zuk. If your really sweating the $$, get out that buzz box of yours and go to town. scwafish 10-11-2002, 05:52 AM I checked Reiders site, they have minis for the toy 8"... http://www.reiderracing.com/minispool.gif ROCKILLER 10-11-2002, 01:16 PM hey poopy, its not that hard. If you already have the spools just put them in. you most likely wont have to change the preload because youre using the same gears. I can stop by sometime. I've done tons of yota axles. I'm in Cotati. poppycock 10-11-2002, 01:20 PM randy's r+p got me the spools for like $150ea. i don't mind having to set them up just don't want to mess it up. :D DougO 10-11-2002, 03:28 PM Originally posted by ROCKILLER you most likely wont have to change the preload because youre using the same gears. I've done tons of yota axles. :confused: As soon as the carrier bearing caps are taken off all preload is gone :confused: how does using the same gears make a difference when preload is in the bearings:confused: scwafish 10-11-2002, 10:48 PM How close are you to gettign the mini-digger-tube-buggy doodad running? poppycock 10-11-2002, 11:07 PM lmao i won't be baited into that one again scwa. let's just say soon ;) scwafish 10-11-2002, 11:16 PM Hurry up!...I'm looking for a good spot to break it in at moo mountain. poppycock 10-12-2002, 08:48 AM i should have some major progress by the end of the this week. TNToy 10-12-2002, 07:17 PM You're spooling the front? I hope that buggy is hydro. And you bettah have longfields. Seesh, what am I saying? :shaking: If it never leaves the driveway, it doesn't matter if you break a birf. :p bobaki 10-12-2002, 09:12 PM Poppy it appears Evan has your number...........................:D poppycock 10-12-2002, 09:32 PM Originally posted by TNToy You're spooling the front? I hope that buggy is hydro. And you bettah have longfields. Seesh, what am I saying? :shaking: If it never leaves the driveway, it doesn't matter if you break a birf. :p longfields and full hydro... i'm not worried. ROCKILLER 10-13-2002, 08:10 PM hey doug o explain to me how removing the carrier will affect the pinion, crush sleeve or pinion bearings. Most likely you would only have to reset the backlash when you put the spool in. I've never done it that way, never put stock gears back in. poppycock 10-13-2002, 09:28 PM i think he's talking about the preload on the carrier bearings. ROCKILLER 10-13-2002, 10:20 PM yea, did you get them in yet? | |