: Mogs or Rockwells!


jeeper350
10-12-2002, 10:26 PM
1. What are the differences in clearence on a Mog, Deuce, and D60 axle??

2. What are the diff offsets on Mog axles and on Rockwell Deuces? (distance and direction)

3. How much can a mog axle handle?? I hear they are stronger than a D80?

4. How hard are each of these to convert to rear steer?

5. What are brake and Bolt pattern options and pricing for Mog and Deuces?

Dan Dibble
10-12-2002, 10:37 PM
Apples or oranges!!!!!!!

spencurai
10-12-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by jeeper350
1. What are the differences in clearence on a Mog, Deuce, and D60 axle??

2. What are the diff offsets on Mog axles and on Rockwell Deuces? (distance and direction)

3. How much can a mog axle handle?? I hear they are stronger than a D80?

4. How hard are each of these to convert to rear steer?

5. What are brake and Bolt pattern options and pricing for Mog and Deuces?

hey retard try the search button, this topic is discussed weekly....:flipoff2: see the big search button on the page you are currently reading....yeah the one that says search on it......try that one press it and type in mog rockwell axles in several variations of text....its called boolean logic search patterns....try it sometime, you probably ask people to e-mail you a website instead of using google dont you:flipoff2:

jeeper350
10-12-2002, 11:31 PM
damn arent you a c**k face! D**k sucker! :flipoff2:
I dont know what Google is! , F**c*Wad

coiledbj42
10-12-2002, 11:34 PM
here we go again......................

jeeper350
10-12-2002, 11:36 PM
I dont know why yall have to have such bad attitudes? :)
I took the advise and it helped! But what is google a search engine?

elf_cruiser
10-12-2002, 11:36 PM
here we go again......................

yup...

OK, dude, the short, short version:

If you like to build stuff and spend $$$ get mogs; If you like cheap, easy, and beef, get rockwells; and if you like to fit in, get 60's!!:flipoff2:

coiledbj42
10-12-2002, 11:43 PM
elf, that is way too long an explanation.

SEARCH:flipoff2:

elf_cruiser
10-13-2002, 12:01 AM
elf, that is way too long an explanation.

I know, but he's from Texas, even worse, he's from Temple. I used to live in Waco, not too far from temple, and I know that he has NO FAWKING PRAYER of finding any info on this shit, other than from this forum.

so, call me sympathetic...

jeeper350
10-13-2002, 12:32 AM
Hey are people supposed to take this :flipoff2: personally or what? Ayway like I said I took previous advise and did search, I already have Dana 60's. Want to make sure that the 60's are what I want before I totally finish the swap! Would just like to say that I now know why I have heard bad things about this forum.

elf_cruiser
10-13-2002, 12:43 AM
I have heard bad things about this forum.

and what are those things??

"those guys are assholes, they know too much and like to fawk with people who don't know as much as they do..."


hmmm??

Yotaonly
10-13-2002, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by jeeper350
Would just like to say that I now know why I have heard bad things about this forum.

Whys that? Because you don't know how to search feature right!!

All of the things you asked are already here, just gotta find 'em. Now go piss off and tell your friend that we're all assholes.

coiledbj42
10-13-2002, 01:56 AM
take :flipoff2: however you like:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

350 Samurai
10-13-2002, 08:50 AM
Newbies are so much fun! :)

44Runner
10-13-2002, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by 350 Samurai
Newbies are so much fun! :)

...said the guy that registered 3 months ago. :flipoff2:

morpheus
10-13-2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by jeeper350
Would just like to say that I now know why I have heard bad things about this forum.

good. no go away and tell all your friends not to come around here either ... cause we're baaaaaaaaddddd :bender:

- jack

MOGXJ44
10-13-2002, 09:24 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=291674&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

jeeper350
10-13-2002, 09:34 AM
Wow, someone sounds upset! If you look at my member number it beats everyone but Elf Cruiser I just dont always have time to come here and post. What I have heard is that there are a lot of people here that think "hardcore" is the only way and that if you are worried about streetability at all you are a poser. I took his advise about the search, I just thought up some questions and didnt think about trying to search, I didnt think it was such a big deal. But know notice :crybaby2: . I dont think anyone here was somehow born with all the knowledge of 4 WheelDrive vehicles, so just chill out a little, have a :beer: and RELAX!!!!!!!!

SMART ASS
10-13-2002, 10:45 AM
portals:flipoff2:

cruiserrg
10-13-2002, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by jeeper350
1. What are the differences in clearence on a Mog, Deuce, and D60 axle??

Ok, fine I'll try but everyone is right if you search a little while you'll find everything I will mention. I found most infor at http://www.exaxt.ca/ and http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44754&highlight=clearance+rockwell

Clearance of a MOG is ~6" over a std Dana60, a Rockwell in stick form I would guess is slightly less than a Dana60, but shaving can be done to get better clearance. See http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83151&highlight=clearance+rockwell

2. What are the diff offsets on Mog axles and on Rockwell Deuces? (distance and direction)

MOG axles the pinions are offset 3.75" from center to the driver side on front axles, 3.75 to pass on rear in stock form. Rockwells pinions are offset ~11" from center to the passengerside.

3. How much can a mog axle handle?? I hear they are stronger than a D80?

The axles are strong because the majority of the torque is at the portals. They are 8 spline axles that are larger than a Dana 70 rear axle.

4. How hard are each of these to convert to rear steer?

Easy, just put a steer axle in the rear and add hydro. Some additional mods necessary, but not difficult

5. What are brake and Bolt pattern options and pricing for Mog and Deuces?

8 bolt hubs are avaliable for the MOG, prices vary but expensive. I am not aware of different hubs available for the Rockwells

There ya go, now quit being a baller and use the search. :flipoff2:

jeeper350
10-13-2002, 05:37 PM
well thanks I have done a lot off searching ( all I had time for ) and didnt find much out for my specific questions, am still looking but appreciate the help. All the crying is done on this end :flipoff2:

350 Samurai
10-13-2002, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by 44Runner
...said the guy that registered 3 months ago. :flipoff2:

And in that 3 months I have offered a lot more tech than either you or your roommate Boytoy. All you have done in your whopping 10 months is make asinine comments to everyone.

Who would take the technical advice of someone who has pictures of his pet bunny on his website.:flipoff2:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ddelaney/Trix/trix8.jpg

You really look like you do a lot of hardcore wheeling too.:rolleyes:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ddelaney/wheelin/Mountian%20Lake%209-5-01/DCP02101.JPG

jeeper350
10-13-2002, 06:17 PM
I searched around and didnt find any info on wether a portal has ever wanted to spread apart, it was something I thought of (say if you were to accidently catch some air or just land hard)
If you have any comments other than a answer why bother! I have searched!!!! :)

TNToy
10-13-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by 350 Samurai
You really look like you do a lot of hardcore wheeling too.Don't make fun of him just because the sites an IFS festival. :flipoff2:

Just kiddin' 44runner - I was there once too.

larryboy
10-13-2002, 06:31 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86984&highlight=mog

slow learner ?:rolleyes: .

do a search on user name frankie finland or wolfgang(i think)

Jason R
10-13-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by 350 Samurai

Who would take the technical advice of someone who has pictures of his pet bunny on his website.:flipoff2:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ddelaney/Trix/trix8.jpg


Ahahah thats great...GO PLAY W/ YOUR DAMN BUNNY! :D

coiledbj42
10-14-2002, 02:23 AM
that is so fuckin funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my stomach hurts!!!!!!!!

blt2rok
10-14-2002, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by 350 Samurai


And in that 3 months I have offered a lot more tech than either you or your roommate Boytoy. All you have done in your whopping 10 months is make asinine comments to everyone.

Who would take the technical advice of someone who has pictures of his pet bunny on his website.:flipoff2:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ddelaney/Trix/trix8.jpg

You really look like you do a lot of hardcore wheeling too.:rolleyes:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ddelaney/wheelin/Mountian%20Lake%209-5-01/DCP02101.JPG

The hampsters must be getting to small,had to move up to rabbits. Better watch out it will be :bender: next:flipoff2:

Hey 44runner your mom called and she wants those stupid lights off her runner:flipoff2:

44Runner
10-20-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by TNToy
Don't make fun of him just because the sites an IFS festival. :flipoff2:

Just kiddin' 44runner - I was there once too.

I don't have a "site" just a collection of pictures. Yes, I own a dog, a cat, a rabbit, and currently 5 fish. I, like others, am fond of animals. Poor 350 Samuri can't take a little ribbing, must be 16 or something. I actually have 3 roommates, 2 of whom wheel and are on this board. Hard to foot 1160 bucks a month in college all by yourself. My truck doesn't have IFS (hint: look in the SAS folder 350), but it does have my name on the title. Just to clear that up...

Peace,
Dave

Shaggygto
10-20-2002, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by elf_cruiser


I know, but he's from Texas, even worse, he's from Temple. I used to live in Waco, not too far from temple, and I know that he has NO FAWKING PRAYER of finding any info on this shit, other than from this forum.

so, call me sympathetic...

Because Scottsdale, AZ, is so much better right? That'll be the day!

JPrush
10-20-2002, 05:13 PM
soooo....with all the rabbits and IFS, where are the portals going tew?:flipoff2:

bigdude
10-20-2002, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by 44Runner


Poor 350 Samuri can't take a little ribbing

No he just doesn't like posers :flipoff2:

elf_cruiser
10-20-2002, 08:35 PM
Because Scottsdale, AZ, is so much better right? That'll be the day!

Are you trying to say that Temple is a better place to live than Scottsdale?? hmmmm...

I moved here 3 mths ago, and I hate it already. I mean, I'm surrounded by pornstar-looking chicks, and hardcore rockcrawling trails, as well as actual PUBLIC LAND, life sucks!

p.s. being 3 hrs from the Grand Canyon really pisses me off too!

jeeper350
10-20-2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by elf_cruiser


I moved here 3 mths ago, and I hate it already. I mean, I'm surrounded by pornstar-looking chicks, and hardcore rockcrawling trails, as well as actual PUBLIC LAND, life sucks!

p.s. being 3 hrs from the Grand Canyon really pisses me off too!

So this makes you cool? Where ever you live and whatever you do with your rig, who gives a s**t, just have fun. I think it is a little retarded, usually people who have knowledge like to share it. I did several searches and didnt get much of the info I was needing. I always thought the idea of a board like this is to ask a question if you have one, I realize yall might get the same questions a lot but lighten up! If you dont wanna respond AGAIN to the same old question shut up!!!!!!! (or just point me in the right direct like yall did) :flipoff2:

So has anyone ever heard of a portal axle spreading apart after a hard landing? I already did some searches with nothing mentioned.........

jeeper350
10-20-2002, 10:20 PM
Oh and Elf Cruiser, did you live in Temple or Killeen, ex military? Where did you wheel near by, I am new to this area.

1248bullitt
10-21-2002, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Shaggygto


Because Scottsdale, AZ, is so much better right? That'll be the day!

Have you ever been there?