How many of you guys like a challenge???

How many of you consider yourself to be hardcore wheelers?

If your interested in the harder rockcrawling lines, you need to come check out the new cut on Rattlerock at Windrock. We have been cutting a new trail adjacent to Rattlerock and will be opening it up soon and would like to have a group of guys that would like to try some challenging lines for the first day riding the new trail, to see what we can accomplish.

If your interested PM me and I will give you the details of when the trail will be open for riding and when the Grand opening will be. Hope to hear from you guys!

Will this be open for Trailfest?

Yes it will. We are also hoping to have another trail open by Trailfest too.

sounds like a good place to test out the new buggy in June :smokin:

sounds like a good place to test out the new buggy in June :smokin:

yeah come on down, Its a pretty tuff line. It will need to get rode some to get the rocks moved around. Thanks for the tip on Rail Trail, we got the tree cut and out of the way on Sat.

sweet. I'll give it a try then if it's not too crowded. I hate sitting around all day. Maybe I can hit it Friday before everyone shows up.

sounds like a good place to test out the new buggy in June :smokin:

The lines are Rail trail tough but unlike Rail trail the lines are DRY!

Heres some pics of the line on Rattlerock,at the bottle neck you go straight.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/gmkayaker/P1010209.jpg?t=1270565891


This is tough but doable

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/gmkayaker/P1010210.jpg?t=1270565998

Pictures of the new trail that will hopefully be open by Trailfest

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/gmkayaker/P1010182b-1.jpg?t=1270566164

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uh....yeah, I'm hittin' that :smokin:

Thats what we need are people fired up about riding Windrock again and new trails will be built. We need support!

I'm a huge fan of Windrock. I used to think it sucked but I have found a tri-fecta that will guarentee a good weekend. I think the area has a lot to offer.

a group of us from VA are coming down in the middle of may for a few days. most of us are "hardcore"........

We will definately be interested in trying the new lines.

We are also interested in any other trails that are fun/hardcore. We haven't been there in about 2 years, and it sounds like other things have changed.

You guys need to hit trail 39,Rail trail,Rattlerock,The new lines on Rattlerock,the new trail (if open),15,Little school bus..not in that order.

Awesome!

that is what i have been looking for.

Where is the "new" trail located??

Thats what we need are people fired up about riding Windrock again and new trails will be built. We need support!

Alot more would be fired up if they was'nt chargin so much to ride there.What is it $17 person/per day now????

Yes the price is $17 a day and worth it IMO.

Rattlerock is simply the best trail Ive ridden. its has everything from sick bonus lines and some of the best crawling in the south. Thiers lines that are open on Rattlerock that I have never seen anyone make it up and the new lines are even sicker!

The new trails location is not being release at this time because it isnt open yet and we dont want someone getting on it and ruining it for everyone. It will be open soon and its close to the parking lot.

Alot more would be fired up if they was'nt chargin so much to ride there.What is it $17 person/per day now????

I hope you are being sarcastic. $17 per person per day is a fair price. If you cant afford that. You picked the wrong hobby. everywhere we go is $50 per weekend or $20 per day plus a small fee for passengers.


My wheeling crew is booked monthly until July or August. I will discuss this with them on our next trip and see you late summer or early fall.

How about parking for 3-4 motorhomes in the 40ft range with trailers? all rigs are trail only. IIRC you cannot camp in the parking area anymore. As another option where is the closest Wal Mart. We can stay there overnight. As long as the it is not posted as no overnight parking.

I will be coming to check it out but I hate to pay so much a day when Harlan is 35 bucks a YEAR....and they had the firewood stocked @ THE CAMPSITES :eek:.

Those Rocks looked awesome and I have heard that its an awesome park so I will def be checking it out.

I will be coming to check it out but I hate to pay so much a day when Harlan is 35 bucks a YEAR....and they had the firewood stocked @ THE CAMPSITES :eek:.

Those Rocks looked awesome and I have heard that its an awesome park so I will def be checking it out.


Everyones complaning about the cost but $17 a day is not bad.

Just like ftoy507 said,most places charge $50 a weekend,would it sound better if they said $34 a weekend?
Hell an annual pas is just $88,thats almost what you pay for one weekend somewhere else and Harlans cost to ride will go up. a couple years ago it was free to ride at Harlan.

$17 a day is far from a problem.

I would honestly pay double that to wheel at a good park/property.

In comparison to the other places that do charge, its is cheap!

So stop your whining!!!!!

Its the Per person fee that constitutes the expensive part. Take a family up there and it gets expensive quick. Per rig fees make more sense but I'm ok with $17/person since its normally just me anyway. I'd say we will try to get a group to come up one weekend. Just down the road from us and looks fun. Its great you guys are working on that park. Looking forward to seeing it.

sounds great. We have a group coming down in july.

I hope you are being sarcastic. $17 per person per day is a fair price. If you cant afford that. You picked the wrong hobby. everywhere we go is $50 per weekend or $20 per day plus a small fee for passengers.


My wheeling crew is booked monthly until July or August. I will discuss this with them on our next trip and see you late summer or early fall.

How about parking for 3-4 motorhomes in the 40ft range with trailers? all rigs are trail only. IIRC you cannot camp in the parking area anymore. As another option where is the closest Wal Mart. We can stay there overnight. As long as the it is not posted as no overnight parking.

No I was bein serious.$51 aday for my crew is too much when I can go to Harlan and ride all I want on my $35 a year permit.Fuel/distance will be about the same for me goin to either place.It's not that I cant afford it.I just choose not to afford it when their are other options.

Everyones complaning about the cost but $17 a day is not bad.

Just like ftoy507 said,most places charge $50 a weekend,would it sound better if they said $34 a weekend?
Hell an annual pas is just $88,thats almost what you pay for one weekend somewhere else and Harlans cost to ride will go up. a couple years ago it was free to ride at Harlan.

I will be in Western NC for the 4th of July so lets us know when the new trails will be open. I will have my rig and will be ready to wheel.
$17 a day is far from a problem.

I would honestly pay double that to wheel at a good park/property.

In comparison to the other places that do charge, its is cheap!

So stop your whining!!!!!

:laughing: I really don't know what to say:confused:

No I was bein serious.$51 aday for my crew is too much when I can go to Harlan and ride all I want on my $35 a year permit.Fuel/distance will be about the same for me goin to either place.It's not that I cant afford it.I just choose not to afford it when their are other options.

If your content riding the same areas,thats good.

Windrock is an awesome place to ride that has a lot of hard trails and we are trying to build more,so for all of you guys that want to try hard,challenging trails that will test your driving skills and dont care to pay the fee,come check out the new stuff weve cut,you wont be dissapointed.

This thread is for the folks that need to know about the new, hard trails, not the ones concerned about riding fees. Start your own thread!

does that start from when you buy it or do you have to buy it on jan 1 to get a years worth. just checking. didnt want to get a yaer pass and not get a years worth of time.

nice lookin trails.
ill be sure to bring my polaris razor or artic cat atv so i get a challenge from it

does that start from when you buy it or do you have to buy it on jan 1 to get a years worth. just checking. didnt want to get a yaer pass and not get a years worth of time.

nice lookin trails.
ill be sure to bring my polaris razor or artic cat atv so i get a challenge from it


I think you can actually buy them in Nov. and get a couple of extra months but I might be wrong and yes, if you buy one now it will expire on Jan 1.

well ill have to ask them when i go to trail fest. the trail rides on friday are the trails going to be open for that. also how is it if someone breaks will it be easy to get them out of they way.

lots of guys i know would ride there all the time if more trals could be made. we have all kinds in our crew from medium to hardcore wish windrock had more of a well balanced system. hope these trails help before if you had an atv it was great but only had about a couple trails for a built rig seems to be either easy or hardcore.

Yes these trails will be open for trail fest.

lots of guys i know would ride there all the time if more trals could be made..


Good to hear....Have a lot of your friends post up. The more push and requests we have for new trails, the more likely we are to get them.

Rockcrawl, Let everyone know where to direct their support for new trails.

For those that have never been, the potential for Windrock is HUGE. With some work and time invested, I believe it can give Harlan a run for its money....BUT, support (large number of requests) is needed.

On a side note: I saw everyone bitching when Tellico closed, and saying they would pay lots and lots to have it open/ride there (so would I).....So, $88 a year is not bad at all. "The Man" is trying to close more and more of our riding grounds, or restrict our areas. Lets not get cought up bitching about prices, and lets start showing more support of the areas we still have open.....and try to make them as useable as we can.

Just my opinions, if you don't like em....poke your eyes out so you dont have to read em :flipoff2::D

Right now we are trying to establish a reletionship with Coal creek,so that in the future if we find other areas that look good, it will be easier to get them approved. As far as what people can do now,you can come help us cut the trails,its hard work but if we want new trails thats what it will take. When we go to cut the new trail,I am going to post it up and anyone thats has a chainsaw,trimmer,citters,whatever will be encouraged to come. I will be announcing the trail cutting day real soon.

BTW.. you can get to the trail in your 4X4 tow rig, its not hard or you can ride with someone else.

Looks good however I agree with Jeremy. Too expensive if I have to pay for riders, my 2 boys always come with me. If I was closer that would be another thing. And yes I pay to wheel other places. but $51 a day is rediculous.

Windrock is my back yard riding place so I buy 2 passes. 1 for me and 1 for my girlfriend and its well worth it, but I do agree on price for per day or weekend. Being part of there busniess they need to be competitive with other parks to stay in business. Fee for the rig and possibly a small fee for passengers or whatever. For atv riding windrock is hard to beat. More trails than you know what to do with. But for crawlers it needs alot of work to get up to where other parks are all ready at. We are working hard to change that so be on the look out for updates.

Glad to see Windrock getting some attention that doesn't do with mining! I rode there all the time when I was at UT and so many trails got turned into gravel roads. I hope to have a rig capable of running Rattlerock one day!

You guys need to hit trail 39,Rail trail,Rattlerock,The new lines on Rattlerock,the new trail (if open),15,Little school bus..not in that order.

New trails look sick, cant wait to try. But i thought 39 was rail trail? What am i missin?

39 is not railtrail. It goes for a while and then forks. To the locals or people that have known windrock for a while at the fork to the left is called Cadalic Hill which takes you up the mountain back to the gravel road. Its a medium climb in my opionion. To the right of the fork is where Rail Trail starts.

Got a big group coming up Thursday for trailfest.Will the new trail be on the map at the pay station or on the maps when you check in for Trailfest?Will the new lines at Rattle Rock be flagged by then or is it make your own line in that area?

Got a big group coming up Thursday for trailfest.Will the new trail be on the map at the pay station or on the maps when you check in for Trailfest?Will the new lines at Rattle Rock be flagged by then or is it make your own line in that area?


The new trail will not be on the maps. The Rattlerock area is not a make your own line but the new line will be flagged!

Were waiting on a few final words from Coal creek to get the new trail open.

if the trails r open will there be a trailfest ride on them as a group or will it just be hit them if you want. do you know ive got 2 rigs that want to hit them

We got good news this mourning. It looks like we will be able to cut the new trail this Sunday. I doubt there will be a guided ride on the new trail for trailfest. But it will be flaged and its off of Trail 16. So find Trail 16 on the map, then you will be able to find the new trail. Trust me, we were trying to get this done along time ago so then this would not be an issue.

were not buggies but would like to hit them maybe ride with some locals. who is up for it i ride a big m715 and i also have another guy runnin a sami on 35's

One important thing for Trailfest. If the weather keeps up the way its been, meaning no rain and your not very familiar with the trails I would definately get a map and plan your rides to avoid the gravel roads because it will be extremely dusty on the gravel roads. You can cover the whole mountain by trails but if your not careful you can end up on a gravel road for miles and miles and it will suck some dusty balls for sure.

thats why we were tryin to ride with some people who knew how to avoid the dusty balls. we dont ride there much even though we are close im only about 1hour away so its close but dont know the trails so we are tryin to find some more stuff to ride there. we also drive it like we stole it so hardcore is good for us

No I was bein serious.$51 aday for my crew is too much when I can go to Harlan and ride all I want on my $35 a year permit.Fuel/distance will be about the same for me goin to either place.It's not that I cant afford it.I just choose not to afford it when their are other options.

I agree that's it's pricey when you have more than 2. They should look at changing the rate system, but they do it for liability, and everyone has a permit. $5 a passenger works great.

Been to both. IMHO I think Windrock/Coal Creek is better now than Harlan. Rode for miles and miles at Harlan with few rock crawling challenges. I thought Rattle Rock has more than all of Harlan, including running Mason Jar and the Lions Den.

Trail 16 coming form trail2 or from the other end off the gravel road?

IMO Rattlerock is the best trail around, if you can drive it with style, you can drive any trail.

Trail 16 coming form trail2 or from the other end off the gravel road?

Go in from trail 2. Its about 10 to 15 min once on 16 on the left

Thanks for the info.Plan to come up Thursday and check out the new trail and probably go check out the new rattle rock line on Friday.

Well the new trail at Windrock is open!

The trail was climbed today and it is bad ass and hard. Anything under a 39 inch tire is going to be rough on this trail.

The trail does not top out at this time but it will in the future. The trail makes a loop and has somewhat of a bailout trail on the left, that also serves as the temporary way back down.

STAY OUT OF THE CREEK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TRAIL.

The red is the way up and the white is the future top out and the black is the way back down. The intersection of trail 2 and 16 is marked on the picture, to help you find the trail. Good luck!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/gmkayaker/Newtrail-1-1.jpg?t=1271631089

I will add that the entrance/exit is flagged with survey tape and will remain that way till after Trailfest.

We also need to name the new trail

We also need to name the new trail

Should be first to clear it, names it.


My .02

I agree

Like rockrawl said the new trail is sick. Here's a few pics of it, my camera died before I could get any of the real hard parts.

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/tnxj00/trail%20cutting/001.jpg
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Looks like fun!!

Can't wait

Coal Creek told us about another place that would make for a good trail Saturday at our meeting. Last night we got an email saying to go cut it as soon as possible. Talk about some great news! No new trails in years and now we get 2 in 1 week! We are going to try and go walk it sometime this week. I doubt we will get it in before Trailfest since the new one on 16 needs a little more work along with the new line on Rattle Rock. I just wanted to share the news!

Great news.Wish I lived closer than 4 hours away so I could come help clear trails.Great job up there guys and I know everybody appreciates it.

if you can get I40 cleared I'll volunteer to come help. I've got plenty of chainsaws and other tools that could be useful.

if you can get I40 cleared I'll volunteer to come help. I've got plenty of chainsaws and other tools that could be useful.

That would be awesome! Because I predict we are going to need all the help we can get, check this out!

This is one of the areas we are currently looking at to build trails.

AREA 51


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/gmkayaker/P1010005.jpg?t=1271787157

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BTW...The new trail at Windrock is the hardest trail there.

Just got back.Wanted to thank you guys for cutting the new trail.If you like rail trail and Rattle Rock add this one to your list.I saw Tin Can at the bottom of Rattle rock and told him you need to name it Poison Ivy or Maybe Poison Rock because the trail is covered with it.Had 6 rigs run low lower half.Mine caught fire but we caught it quick.No issues.Last rig in the group to start it broke the rear driveshaft about 20feet into the rocks and it took us about 2 hours to get it back out.Great trail.Keep us posted on the locations of the new trails you cut we will be back up the weekend before Thanksgiving.Beers on us!

Any new trails cut lately? We are headed up Thursday and will be there through May 6th.

First pictures look like boulder ridge at Durhamtown

You should hit 39, then take a right turn up hill on Cadillac. Once you get up to the gravel road take a right. Stay on the gravel road for a few minutes then when you get to 3 take a left down one of several lines and go to the right at the bottom of the hill. Then take your next left which is the new shortcut to Rail Trail. RT has gotten pretty good (rough). Rail Trail will take you up and to the left by the big Coal pile and over to 3 which you take a right on and run back up hill. As said earlier, there are several good lines back up to the gravel road.