Please don't neglect to visit the "Scene" and "Personalities" pages to get the best over all feel for this event.

Enjoy...

SuperCrawl Pics (http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/SuperCrawl.htm)

You do realize that, by longstanding tradition, you are now required to add a "chicks" page, right?
http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/AlexCowboy.jpg
http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/ThreeGalFans.jpg

Someone was actually running Pro Comps? Intresting. Guess they eventually figured they'd have to sponsor SOMEONE or settle for a monopoly on the mall crawler market.
http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/JSAJeep.jpg

they stick ok down here for a production small tire..

the event rocked..was to much fun...

Defenately F1 of crawling in the "limited" unlimited class...



look on Rockmodified.com for pics also

I guess this is Tracy Jordan's new rig? Toyota Matrix, right?

http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/112-ODBuggy2.jpg

Yeah, Jordans new vehicle is SHWEEEET. I had plenty of time to watch him, as we were in line right in front of or behind him all weekend. BTW, that's me in the white shirt with my hands in my pockets, and my wacked-out brother on my right in the hat(I don't think you really need to ask which hat):D

is it just the camera angle or is his helmet sticking out the top of the cage ??

http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/112-ODBuggy2.jpg

Nice pics John.

But, you know what. I spent maybe 2 hrs. out there, and that was on Sat. handing out fliers for the SWFWDA lawsuit. Way too many people, and honestly, I'm fricking sick of crawling competitions, just wanta go out and wheel, which we did today with the camera guy from the Outdoor Channel for a show they're doing. It was relaxed, none of the crazies went along, I guess its just plain nice to get back to simple wheeling and fun.:D

girl in pink = HUBBA HUBBA

Yes I was a spotter for The new Campbell rig, and I couldnt get my Job done do to the hot girls all over the place.:eek: :flipoff2:

Wheres all the pic's of the 6x6:D ..........I know it broke but he had to be on the course for a little bit:confused:

How about the 8 wheeled zuk.........Was it there????

WAS THIS SPONSORED BY JP MAG OR WHAT???

Originally posted by landuseorc

But, you know what. ... I'm fricking sick of crawling competitions, just wanta go out and wheel, ...
D

OK. Sure Brad...
At least now everyone knows why I need to find myself another spotter. :D

Great pics, thanks for postin up man!!!

sweet picks...........any videos coming out of it

the guy in the passenger seat is jake hollenbeck ttc in i think 1999 orange sami from reno nevada

Great pics Jaffer :beer: Also thanks again to you and your wife for helping Mike and I get our uniforms together. Jaffer hotwired a Singer machine and his wife sewed patches onto our uniforms THE NIGHT BEFORE THE COMP!!!! Truly one of the coolest acts of hospitality I've encountered and another reason I love our sport.

Did anyone get pics of the Nelson Buggy. Rear mount air cooled VW motor, very light, very low. It will be hell to deal with next year (assuming the right team is assembled), It worked extremely well. Honestly the tightest cornering I have EVER seen w/o rear steer. That thing could cut it's front tires to I swear like 75-80 degrees :eek:

yeah no one would say how much the Nelson and Nelson rig weighed probably cause they were embaresed since John B. was driving.:flipoff2:

Best not throw stones on that one fat boy... :flipoff2:

BTW how did the super skinny rig fare in the long run for the weekend? Is Adam in a tizzy over his scratched paint, or is he more pissed about the multiple rollover action? :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Jaffer


OK. Sure Brad...
At least now everyone knows why I need to find myself another spotter. :D

Yep, that is most likely a truism, John. I'm getting stretched pretty thin what with the SWFWDA, ORC, Rock Garden, FaunkyBroncys, and oh yeah, the day job.:D And wheeling occasionally.:cool:

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
yeah no one would say how much the Nelson and Nelson rig weighed

Really???? I know how much it weighs, it's weight distribution, materials of constrution, etc. You just aren't part of the "in" crowd :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
Nelson and Nelson rig


Is this the same Nelson of off road racing fame?


Jaffer, can you put some names with the personalitites page? Some I know and others I don't.

Thanks to everyone that posted pics.

Originally posted by nobody20

Is this the same Nelson of off road racing fame?


Yep :D

thanks for the pix jaffer there are great.

I thought this pic was funny as hell.

"GOTCHA!"

Originally posted by Spank
I thought this pic was funny as hell.

"GOTCHA!"

Yeah, I notice that too on Saturday when I was looking at Jaffer's pix.

A rear view of the Nelson buggy that skulltoy snapped and posted in chit chat.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=928033

Originally posted by bigdude
A rear view of the Nelson buggy that skulltoy snapped and posted in chit chat.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=928033

What the HELL is that?
:eek:

did anyone get any spec on that rig? beside the vw flat 4 power plant

The fab is beyond first class, the design definately is outside the box and for it's debute, it worked really well. light, very low CG, stable, nimble. They rasn in my group and i got to watch all day friday and a little on Sunday. Probably the best climbing 99" WB I've seen, not by a lot, but they have not even started tuning it yet.

Originally posted by gunracer1
did anyone get any spec on that rig? beside the vw flat 4 power plant

It runs an atlas t-case, front hydro steer with a double ended ram and hi pinion 3rd members (9inch?) I dont know what tranny it has. The atlas is basically right next to the seat. the engine tranny and tcase is set in at a slight angle off to the side of the chassis. I talked to him for a few seconds and he said they havent weighed it. It was its first time out. Here are the pics I snapped of it:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/brian4x4/Supercrawl/VWside.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/brian4x4/Supercrawl/VWbackside.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/brian4x4/Supercrawl/VWcab.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/brian4x4/Supercrawl/VWfront.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/brian4x4/Supercrawl/VWfront%20steering.jpg

is it just me or is that tube chassis/cage not symetrical at all?

Purpose built does not = symetrical.

Originally posted by Brian1


I talked to him for a few seconds and he said they havent weighed it.

You really think that someone builds a rig like that without knowing the exact weight and it's distribution throughout the chasis :eek:

They weren't making it public knowledge (neither would I if it were mine), but they let a select few in on the secret for recruiting purposes :p

Originally posted by wngrog


What the HELL is that?
:eek:


I have to agree!!!!!:eek:


I don't think I have ever seen anything quite like that thing.......

i sorta like it...mainly cause its so light, but all the unsymmetrical, and weird offset shit, gets my head spinning, i still think its hella cool though, i like new stuff.....bling bling!!

Rock racing engineering and innovation could really get interesting if the off road racers cross over in-mass.

Nelson's rig is very interesting and some real thinking obviously went into its planning and construction.

Originally posted by Brian1

I dont know what tranny it has.....

VERY cool rig. I think it had a Powerglide in it.
JaY

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TNToy
Someone was actually running Pro Comps? Intresting. Guess they eventually figured they'd have to sponsor SOMEONE or settle for a monopoly on the mall crawler market.
http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/SuperCrawl/JSAJeep.jpg [/QUOTE

I'm the guy running ProComps and just so you know, they are a new test rubber that has worked out very well. Starting early next year the rumor is everything 35" and up will come in the new stickier - chunk free rubber. The new 37x13.5x16 is starting production as we speak...great combo tire by going to a 16" rim considering the best setup for many is 17" in front and 15" in back...this will give you one rim size to deal with and less spares to carry. Also the sidewalls will be even thicker thicker, the side lugs will come out farther and wrap around over double what they used to, the three plies in the side will have a special wrap so the tire does NOT have any lateral roll...If this tire does move from testbed to production, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large number of guys switching once they see the new tire next year.

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The new 37x13.5x16 is starting production as we speak...great combo tire by going to a 16" rim considering the best setup for many is 17" in front and 15" in back...this will give you one rim size to deal with and less spares to carry. Also the sidewalls will be even thicker thicker, the side lugs will come out farther and wrap around over double what they used to, the three plies in the side will have a special wrap so the tire does NOT have any lateral roll...If this tire does move from testbed to production, I wouldn't be surprised to see a large number of guys switching once they see the new tire next year. [/B][/QUOTE]

Okay, I'm a little confused :confused: is the 37x13.5x16 going to have all the new features you describe and the new rubber compund?

I just want to check to see if I know the theory behind the 15-17 combo.
A. The 17 is used in the front to reduce the sidewall aspect ratio and thus minimize the radial sidewall bounce phenomena as well as reduce sidewall roll?
B. The 15 is used because it allows the tire to better wrap around objects do to the higher sidewall aspect ratio?

But with the Krawlers you just get front benifits?

MT/R comes in 37x17 and 37x15 but the 37x13 is much stiffer I am told, so do these two tires work well together? Why don't the Krawlers come this way?

But all of this goes away with 6 ply bias tires even in the 38.5" sizes?

Okay, I'm a little confused :confused: is the 37x13.5x16 going to have all the new features you describe and the new rubber compund?

I just want to check to see if I know the theory behind the 15-17 combo.
A. The 17 is used in the front to reduce the sidewall aspect ratio and thus minimize the radial sidewall bounce phenomena as well as reduce sidewall roll?
B. The 15 is used because it allows the tire to better wrap around objects do to the higher sidewall aspect ratio?

But with the Krawlers you just get front benifits?

MT/R comes in 37x17 and 37x15 but the 37x13 is much stiffer I am told, so do these two tires work well together? Why don't the Krawlers come this way?

But all of this goes away with 6 ply bias tires even in the 38.5" sizes? [/B][/QUOTE]

Your theories are pretty much correct regarding front to rear rim sizes, though in reality, I don't know how many competitors are actually mixing rim sizes. I have heard of a few, but haven't paid enough attention to see who. MT/R 13"? Dunno about the Krawlers...my guess is that they wanted to find something that worked first, then branch out...they did well in Farmington.
Regarding the ProComp 37's, yes they will have all the features I wrote about. As for the new rubber in the 37's, as well as 35's, that will come out in the new year when the new molds are done. Right now they are pouring the tires with the normal rubber and for the highway rigs, it's a great choice as they get 50,000 miles and up from them. They just made up their minds on the new compound as they have been quietly testing different mixes for about a year now...I think it will be a hit...scratch that...I'm sure it will be a hit as they stick good!

cool :D :D