Hey, has anybody done this? Fill me in on the 411 hommies...

-Jack

the guy from ttc did this, but it is not even technically a bronco anymore! but it was a sweet setup, he frequents the board, so maybe hell pop-up!

wes

Well, yeah, I know JR and Lee have done it. But I'm looking for somebody that has done it on something that is a tad closer to stock...

Jack, It's really a tough swap to do. Well, the rear wouldn't be too much trouble. The front would have serious clearance issues with the oil pan. I believe the diff is only offset like 3.5". You'd either have to jack it sky high or have absolutely no up travel.

That's the problem that I'm running into as well. Offset, pinion length, etc. I want a really low ride with big assed tires. Or decent sized tires and Mog axles. This must be why not many people are running them. Anybody know what the offset is for the EB D44?

-Jack

Maybe this thought is way off... and off hand i don't remember a clear pic of the mogs, other than the portal setup er whatever it's called... Uh, but would shifting the front axle help much, or would that be making the wheelbase too long?
just a thought
Pete

that would help and I am considering that. But I want to try and keep all of the weight of the motor over the front axle if possible. It's a traction thing. So I'm hoping that there are other solutions.

-Jack

Originally posted by IronBenderII
that would help and I am considering that. But I want to try and keep all of the weight of the motor over the front axle if possible. It's a traction thing. So I'm hoping that there are other solutions.

-Jack


Talk to Lee, sounds like what he wanted and thats why he keept the 9" - 60 hybrid front. Not even with a drysump you can do it tho.

Im installing a dry oilpan system on my 5.0 to have the steering ram behind the axle and have enough uptravel, cant imagine if I had a portal front (I have a 60rc).

good luck

Hey Jesus, how's it going.

Lee actually moved his motor down like 5" in the frame as well. So no way he could do it. It seems like it is doable, somehow. There must be somebody out there that has done it! Hello? Is anybody out there???

-Jack

Working on it right now, I am solving the uptravel by raising my motor and trans 1.5". I have it mocked up and it looks like I will have about 4" of uptravel and still be able to keep the COG quite low. Doing a radius arm type setup similiar to bgreen's chev. I have the drivers side done and will start welding as soon as the weather allows. (won't quite fit in the 1950's garage.)

Custom offsets can be done by Taradon or Exaxt, both out of Vancouver, Canada. I could be wrong but I think they are the one and the same.

Custom offsets can be done by Taradon or Exaxt, both out of Vancouver, Canada. I could be wrong but I think they are the one and the same.

I don't think Taradon and Exaxt are the same company. Taradon did a modified front axle housing and new inners for my 79 bronc. My rear shaft is only 25" (front is even shorter) and thats on 105 " WB. Can't see it on an EB without making it just about into a buggie (to get the wheelbase). I looked into it for my 77 and decided to go 79 bronc chassis and swap over EB body later (after I totally trash 79 body :D).................

OK been corrected!

Like this?

Its my neighbors pile.

Like this?

Its my neighbors pile.
Lame got more details & pics of that beast?

I don't have pics, but I know some stuff.

A good part of the frame is still there, but plated. Stock 302, C6, 205, mogs, 44" TSL's. Body was narrowed a few years ago and it looked like this
http://www.rock-heads.com/Trails/T-Back-Bikini/images/P1010098_JPG.jpg

triangulated 4-link rear, 2 lowers and a panhard up front, RE Flex Joints, or JJ's on the links. Fox air shocks. The ass end is all tube from behind the seats.

Lame, do you know what he did to the front to fit the mog axle? He must have raised the motor up, because it doesn't look like he has a lot of lift going on. I'm asking because I have a chance to get some mogs for a decent price, but it just doesn't look like it will fit in the front.

When I asked Lee why he did the hybrid axle in the front, he said that his main reason was to keep the COG down. To keep the portal in the front, would mean raising it 5" or so if I remember the conversation correctly.

Jack,
There's a guy here that has done it. He shows up on Broncofix from time to time. He posted in this thread, and he's always excited to talk about what he has done to his rig. I'll see him out at the Holy's BBQ in a couple of weeks. You may try emailing him.

Link to Bfix post (http://www.broncofix.com/viewtopic.php?t=4288&highlight=unimog)

Lame, do you know what he did to the front to fit the mog axle? He must have raised the motor up, because it doesn't look like he has a lot of lift going on. I'm asking because I have a chance to get some mogs for a decent price, but it just doesn't look like it will fit in the front.

I am pretty sure the motor is in the stock location. I'll see if he is around tonight, and ask exactly what he did. I know it was a lot of work to get everything to fit, but it sure seems like a fun rig on the trail :D

I wouldn't see why you wouldn't want to set the engine back more or move the axle foward. It would even the load out. A lot of the crawlers move the engine back to help them crawl better, the rear enginge buggies are kicking butt so setting it back does help. The up travel is another thing that is being limited. Uptravel is lessened and down travel is used in its place unless you are going to be jumping this thing and then I don't think you would want mog axles anyway. I have them in my ranger with about three or four inches of straight up travel and 6 or 7 of up flex travel with 15" travel shocks. Also mog axles are quite a bit heavier than a dana 60 so that will move the cog down some. I lifted it more for the mogs and 40's but it is more stable than when it was lower and had 35's.I don't think it is to hard to move the pinion closer to what a stock axle would be just one new shaft and cutting the housing down. The setup is very nice for gound clearance and the gear reduction beyond the steering joints which takes stress off the joints. Logger

Just about finished my EB with mog axles project. Here is a link with a few pics.
http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90084

You will need to move the front cross member forwards.

An EB with a pair of U1300s would be :smokin:

An EB with a pair of U1300s would be :smokin:

Whats the difference between them and 406/416's.

You will need to move the front cross member forwards.
I cut mine out and now my front winch mount is my cross member.

...Maybe in Oct of 08 there will be one...

jacksonville eh? i wouldnt mind seeing that on my way back down to wilmington on sunday... ive got a '74 im just putting 1tons under and linking, but viewing some overkill up close would never hurt!


oh '08....its only 2006, nevermind

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