Where is the best place to get one? I would like to find one on the east coast, but it doesn't have to be.

I bought one from Man-A-Fre a few years ago. it was around $650.

contact "OrangeFJ45" on this board. he may be selling one really soon (now?)

Thanks.

MArk Woytovitch has one for sale in Long Island.

FJ-60Mark@woytovich.com

I have one in Va., if your interested send me a PM.

Newbie question = what's the differance between USA and NoN USA 4 speeds?

Non us versions(H41) sport 4.9:1 1st gears, while US versions(H42)have 3.55:1 1st gears...

-Brett

i have an H55F for sale in a little while. Would that work:D

I have one for sale. I'm in NYC metro area.

Aussie H41 (from a 2F) mated to a split (stronger) TC, with parking brake assembly and all shifters. It had all of the worn and tired bits professionally replaced so just install it and go!

See details at http://www.gclcny.com, click Classifieds and then Parts.

mark

Originally posted by fc187
I bought one from Man-A-Fre a few years ago. it was around $650.


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for that price we (me or BJ) could ship you one and a full floating rear, thats about 1300 australia, the box is worth about 400, the diff about 400 and then the rest for shipping,


It has been done before and is easy as.


sikfj40@hotmail.com for anyone that is interested.



NICK

Man a fre is getting some more in the first of Nov. He said a low mileage non usa 4 speed and a 3speed TC for $750

That sounds pretty good. Thanks for all the replys.

Shiznity Mark,
$1950 is a little expensive for a H41.

For that much I'd buy a rebuilt H55F from $pecter.
You might want to tone down that price a little, hopefully you didn't lose too much in the rebuild.

From what I understand H41s can be had from Canada quite cheap.

Originally posted by NIC



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for that price we (me or BJ) could ship you one and a full floating rear, thats about 1300 australia, the box is worth about 400, the diff about 400 and then the rest for shipping,


It has been done before and is easy as.


sikfj40@hotmail.com for anyone that is interested.



NICK



To make it more reasonable I would really try to get more tcases than just one.
Two axles minus pumpkins and a turbo was ~$400us to ship..

Bulk has to cut costs a bit

Everytime I see someone asking for one of these trannys (just because it sez Toyota on the side) it truly amazes me why you'd wanna pay that much $$$ when you could have a 7.5 1st gear w/an SM420 & is waaaaay cheaper :mad: :rolleyes: :confused:

The only reason i can see is cuz the H41/2 is a smooth shifting trans with a syncroed first gear. REAl nice on a DD:D

Oh yeah, while were on the subject. Anyone ever put an H41 behind a SBC??

Originally posted by cruzila
The only reason i can see is cuz the H41/2 is a smooth shifting trans with a syncroed first gear. REAl nice on a DD:D

Who needs a synchro in a 4.9:1 first???

An sm465 has synchro'd 6.5:1 first & can be had for around $100. From a quality standpoint I don't think an h41 has much over an sm420 or an sm465 & if it comes from OZ its probably just as hammerd as any sm420 or 465.

An sm465 has a sychro'ed 1st? Mine must have been worn out... I had one (I swapped it in, it was an SM465) in my m715 and it ground first if you were not stopped...

-Brett

TRD very interested in the H55F, when and how much? 4.88 gears in the FJ axles, the overdrive would be welcomed.




Also sm420 is great, but checked on adapter prices? They are outragous. If you know of cheap adapters let me know.


TRD email me at r.anglin@mcamakita.com

Oh yeah, while were on the subject. Anyone ever put an H41 behind a SBC??

There's very little difference between the H41 and H42 other than that 1st gear. And we all know people (at least used to) put 350s in front of Toyota 4 speeds all the time.

So I think it would hold up fine.

People are also putting SBCs infront of H55F's which to me always seemed a little questionable given that tranny's reputation for blowing 5th gear. But they also have the same basic design (with the difference being 5th gear) as a H41 with a 4.9 first and from what I know first rarely goes.

I'd see no reason not to use one (except that you can get a SM420/465 for $50-$200).

Originally posted by cruiserbrett
An sm465 has a sychro'ed 1st? Mine must have been worn out... I had one (I swapped it in, it was an SM465) in my m715 and it ground first if you were not stopped...

-Brett

It does have Synchro'd 1st, but L is not Synchro'd...

Jim

Also sm420 is great, but checked on adapter prices? They are outragous. If you know of cheap adapters let me know.
Well, it depends what your putting it in and what it's behind. You can find SM420s with GM adapters that'll bolt straight to the engine, the adapter is at or less than $200 for the t-case to the box.

If you're putting it in your Jeep I'll put serious money down that a 4.0 to SM420 adapter is a hellofalot cheaper than a 4.0 to H41/2 (if such a thing is made).

If you're putting it behind a 2F, I'd also guess if you were resourceful you could in fact find a cheap used one.

That H55F's "blow" the 5th gear is a common misconception; the problem is people who don't know the quirks of the transmission. H55F's regularly last 200K+ miles on Venezuelan Land Cruisers and that is with questionable quality 90 weight. My own H55F has close to 160K miles and the 5th gear is in fine shape, I just don't lug the transmission in 5th gear and don't tow with 5th gear.

Originally posted by sixty


Who needs a synchro in a 4.9:1 first???

An sm465 has synchro'd 6.5:1 first & can be had for around $100. From a quality standpoint I don't think an h41 has much over an sm420 or an sm465 & if it comes from OZ its probably just as hammerd as any sm420 or 465.

I have a synchroed 68:1 gear in my Toybox (2nd gear 420 /4.7 low only) it goes 77:1 3rd gear synchroed when double low. 158:1 synchroed 2nd gear.

It is funny but sometimes you don't realise how good something is until it actually works for you. I had Armstrong steering for a long time, but when I finally did PS I realized my driving was really suffering because I could not turn fast enough.
An old club member out in a 420 in his cruiser a least 2o years ago. Everyone told him he was crazy to be going so slow and get the heck out of the way. Now everyone has a 420. Go figure.

Originally posted by NIC



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for that price we (me or BJ) could ship you one and a full floating rear, thats about 1300 australia, the box is worth about 400, the diff about 400 and then the rest for shipping,


It has been done before and is easy as.


sikfj40@hotmail.com for anyone that is interested.



NICK

shipping would be $365, or thereabouts througha shipping broker, the diff would be $500 the box and case, around the $400, overall NOT WORTH IT

because they ream you when it gets to the otehr end of the deal.... you gotta pay import duties, and taxes and stuff!

jasonM and myself and sixty have done this for diffs and a turbo and it ended up being quite a costly exercise, at least, more than i thought it would be anyways!!

Originally posted by cruzila


I have a synchroed 68:1 gear in my Toybox (2nd gear 420 /4.7 low only) it goes 77:1 3rd gear synchroed when double low. 158:1 synchroed 2nd gear.

It is funny but sometimes you don't realise how good something is until it actually works for you. I had Armstrong steering for a long time, but when I finally did PS I realized my driving was really suffering because I could not turn fast enough.
An old club member out in a 420 in his cruiser a least 2o years ago. Everyone told him he was crazy to be going so slow and get the heck out of the way. Now everyone has a 420. Go figure.

can you run me by your gears again???

Originally posted by cruzila
Oh yeah, while were on the subject. Anyone ever put an H41 behind a SBC??

HEAPS!

Originally posted by sixty


Who needs a synchro in a 4.9:1 first???

An sm465 has synchro'd 6.5:1 first & can be had for around $100. From a quality standpoint I don't think an h41 has much over an sm420 or an sm465 & if it comes from OZ its probably just as hammerd as any sm420 or 465.

AGREED!!! :D :flipoff2: in fact ive hammered a few of them!!

I am learning about FJs.
What is the cheapest way to get a lower crawl ratio?
I thought the H41 would be.
I like the idea of the sm420 or 465, but I thought it would need adapter on both ends to go between a 2F and 4 speed TC. If there is a stock chevy bell housing that will bolt to the 2F let me know, in the mean time I am searching. I thought it would cost a grand to do the sm swap.

Thanks for all the info, it is greatly appreciated.

An SM420 pretty much bolts up to a F bellhousing, which will bolt right onto a 2F. It needs an adapter to bolt to a 3 speed t-case.

Originally posted by BJ On Roids


can you run me by your gears again???
Try this too :D
http://www.tlca.org/trails/techxchg/rpmtbls/index.html

314:1 double low SM420/4.7Toybox/3speed t-case
159:1
76:1
44:1

136:1 SM 420 4.7 only
69:1
33:1
19:1

67:1 SM420 3speed case only
34:1
16:1
9.5:1

Originally posted by BJ On Roids


HEAPS!

Adapter or bolt up ???

Ps what do heaps got to do with it ;-) ;-)

Originally posted by BJ On Roids


shipping would be $365, or thereabouts througha shipping broker, the diff would be $500 the box and case, around the $400, overall NOT WORTH IT

because they ream you when it gets to the otehr end of the deal.... you gotta pay import duties, and taxes and stuff!

jasonM and myself and sixty have done this for diffs and a turbo and it ended up being quite a costly exercise, at least, more than i thought it would be anyways!!

Actually there were no taxes or duties assesed. Every idiot who puts a hand on the package assesses a "handling" fee. This amounted to an extra $200 on a $200 shipping bill ($400 total)

Originally posted by sixty


Actually there were no taxes or duties assesed. Every idiot who puts a hand on the package assesses a "handling" fee. This amounted to an extra $200 on a $200 shipping bill ($400 total)

A$$e$ :flipoff2:

thanks for clearing that up
:rolleyes: these idiots just make it unworthwhile is all i was trying to say

unless you are jonesing after one, you are better off getting something common and local, like a 420 or a 465, or a LS1 and auto :D

Originally posted by cruzila


Adapter or bolt up ???

Ps what do heaps got to do with it ;-) ;-)

adapter:(

Originally posted by cruzila

Try this too :D
http://www.tlca.org/trails/techxchg/rpmtbls/index.html

314:1 double low SM420/4.7Toybox/3speed t-case
159:1
76:1
44:1

136:1 SM 420 4.7 only
69:1
33:1
19:1

67:1 SM420 3speed case only
34:1
16:1
9.5:1

6:1 in the 420
4.7:1 in the mini case
4.11:1 in the diffs ???
3:1 in the three speed case?
or threabouts??

how do you find your pinions holding up?
if you give it heaps of curry with this much reduction, what parts start to disintegrate? output shafts? t-case? ring gear? :confused: what happens when you trap a wheel, does it just snap the axle and keep trying to crawl through?

So far so good but I am not a hammer man. :D

:flipoff2: clearly you are not a hammer man, with 315:1 and cruiser axles!~! :D

and with that crawl ratio it also indicated you are not a hammer man!! ;) in fact even hammering in low low low, would not get you far!! ;)

but yeah, cool.......i was thinking, in some cases it may be easier on the axles, as there isnt as much need to hammer it, it allows you to choose your line, you dont have to stop, or bounce, or have them shockloading

BUT

torque multiplication, traction and tyres are king, and that stock LC t-case in that mix is bad news!! then probably the cruiser axles...... then...who knows

but it seems like you have got it running fairly reliably at the moment (minimal breakage) which is cool...so run with that for a while!! ;)

do you find yourself using the lowest setting much? or not often at all?

Imagine a setting: you are stuck between a house size rock and a volkswagon size rock youre buddy says move up a 1/4 in. You say ok (put it in gear count to 5 and stop). :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:


Seriously it is cool for "steep" down grades. Mostly I use 136:1 69:1 and 33:1

Originally posted by cruzila
Imagine a setting: you are stuck between a house size rock and a volkswagon size rock youre buddy says move up a 1/4 in. You say ok (put it in gear count to 5 and stop). :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:


Seriously it is cool for "steep" down grades. Mostly I use 136:1 69:1 and 33:1

hehehe

thats what im talking about, count to five and stop!! right on!

also, you could get out, take a wizz trailside, take half a step forward and hop back in!! :eek: :D

Originally posted by BJ On Roids


hehehe

thats what im talking about, count to five and stop!! right on!

also, you could get out, take a wizz trailside, take half a step forward and hop back in!! :eek: :D

wizz, get soda, make sandwich, hop back in:eek: :eek:

Originally posted by cruzila


wizz, get soda, make sandwich, hop back in:eek: :eek:

i won't have the time, see im not 314:1, im ONLY ;) :rolleyes: 220:1 (ish) :D wizz, maybe grab a bite to eat....but no making tuna sandwhiches :flipoff2:

I've got an H41, I'm in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. $100 US if you want it, and of course you pay shipping.

How hard would that be to get into the US?

6.5 sm465
6.5 sm465
2.0 np205
4.56 D60/14B

=385:1, just right:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Rodney YJ
How hard would that be to get into the US?


I've shipped used parts to the US a few times and it's been pretty easy, no hassles as long as all the customs paperwork is completed (which isn't a problem since I used to work for Fed Ex).
Finding a decent price for shipping would be the biggest problem. UPS maybe?

Bigtoyfreak, can I have your name and phone num. and we will work something out?

Thanks