Split this off because it's buried in a long thread - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=84162.

I need to know who will be working Turd Patrol with me from Ellis to Spider. I also need to know who can bring supplies and tools. Here's a recommended list from Randii:

There's a snazzy wood-stained shitter there with a half-moon cutout. Nice work, actually, but some scuzzballs have spilled lye all over the seat area.... that could make for an ugly suprise to the ol' sphincter. This outhouse also has a roof, and that won't last through a winter with a few (oh, maybe 10-16) feet of snow on it. My suggestions for repair on this one:
* remove the roof
* rinse off (!!flood!!) the seat area to disperse and neutralize the lye (bring a bucket, and plan on 5-10 trips to the creek)
* probably put a new skin of plywood on the top of the seatbox (just don't recommend taking chances with lye)
Suggested materials: bucket, drywall screws, saw, 2'x3' chunk of plywood.

There's also one of the shitters Erik and I built, and its outer skin is in pretty good shape, with the exception of the door. The seatbox itself is shot entirely, and parts of it have been removed (that musta been a STINKY fire). My suggestions for repair on this one:
* rebuild the seatbox, needs new supports (simple framing)
* the door is badly bowed and has been torn off and placed on top of the outhouse enclosure (door looks unrepairable, needs disposed of so nobody leaves it as a 'roof' -- that's a sure-fire way to crush the enclosure from snow-loads)
Suggested materials: nails, drywall screws, saw, to 8' 2x4s, and most of one 4'x8' chunk of plywood.



I can bring 2x4s, sections of plywood, drywall screws, nails, and a bucket.

Still needed are a saw (preferably a cordless circular saw) and a large sheet of plywood.

If I can add all that to my collection and carry it from San Francisco to Ellis in/on the Jeep I'm sure others can too. :D:flipoff2: Even if you're not on Turd Patrol, you can drop it by at Ellis Saturday morning. Or Friday.

Paul

Randii needs to watch FightClub.

Vinegar neutralize lie. water will just wash it away. but it could still burn the skin. I have a gallon of vinegar. I will pack it.

I have a chainsaw. but no cordless saw

Does the door need hindges.

Have you guys thought about a metal roof of sorts? Tin roofs have held up for years in the ghost towns in CO and such. If I was 2500 miles closer, I'd be up helpin you guys out. Hell, I even got to play in that funny Lil' Sluice once. I'll make it back again, might even plan it around a clean up.

Easy

Are we doing this friday on the way in or saturday?

Either way let me know..

Steve - I talked to Kevin/Tarzan/Uget It this morning. Plan is to drop off whatever supplies we're carrying on the way in Friday. Saturday morning you and I and maybe a couple others will head to Ellis early to start work on reconstruction and digging new holes (bring shovels!!). A few people will also be sent from Loon check in to help.

Paul

The outhouse at Ellis with no door (the one that needs the seatbox rebuilt) has hinges. A handsaw is old-school, but easier to pack and recharge than a cordless saw... just give the saw operator a cold one! :p

I will get a 4x8 sheet of plywood (Paul, if you want particular dimensions, I can precut it) up to the Loon Lake dam with the new outhouse Dan and I built.... it will need a ride in the rest of the way, since my 4x4 is an unrecognizable lump of dust-covered metal at the moment. :(

Again, I recommend heartily against roofing. Details here: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84162 -- Omitting the roof helps keep the inside rain-cleaned and helps ventilation. There's a roofed crapper at Spider that was crushed by snowloading... A good roof requires WAY more structure to support well enough for survival.

Randii (Second rule of Fight Club is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB)

If you want to pre-cut a whole new door/front, the big dimesion should be 3' x 6', and the door would basically be 1.5" smaller than that on all sides, just like this one:
http://home.off-road.com/~bibelheimer/images/temp/chromethrone.jpg
and I "cut corners" on the door to help act as angle bracing.

That way all you should need for the repair would be a drill and some screws to remove the old one and put the new one on. You could pre-paint the new one too if you wanted. :)

I PM'ed Kevin but still haven't heard back from him on where to put this new one...?
I guess if all else fails I'll find out at the Dam on Sat. or from the Ellis Shittah crew when I pass through...?

And Randii- no beer for me thanks :barf: unless its A&W.
(rootbeer)

Erik - I talked to Kevin yesterday. Sounds like your pooper is heading to Ellis. :D

Paul