After building TJ's like the HyLine Hemi Jeep (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=157162) and the T&T Lo Rider (http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=160029), it's time to do a LCOG build of a different flavor. After several months of acquiring parts the time has come to bump my XJ up to 37's. Most lift/tire guides say that at least an 8" lift, plus heavy trimming, is required to fit that big a tire on a Cherokee but T&T and crew has once again stepped up to the challenge as we plan to run less than 5.5" with the larger rubber.

My XJ was already equipped with our 5.5" Coil Conversion along with 35" Pro-Comps, Explorer 8.8 rear w/Detroit, trussed HP30 front w/ARB and all our armor.

Before
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We'll be swapping a JKD30 w/ARB and 4.88's into the front with our JK truss system (http://tntcustoms.com/fronttruss-jkd30wheninstallingintoatjljxjzjmj.aspx). Due to the width of the JK axle we'll be installing a truck 8.8 into the rear along with the previous 8.8's Detroit and a set of Moser shafts drilled to match the JK lug pattern.

As for the body mods, it was time to start cutting :eek:....:D

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No turning back now

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Once we figured out what was behind the body we were able to determine where the final opening needed to be and then cut accordingly.

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The inner fender is made up of two halves, here we have the outer half removed so we can section the inner one. Once everything is moved we'll make a new filler to connect the inner halves and a new outer piece to connect it all back to the body.

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Here's a shot of the front of the wheel well. The rectangle opening was a vent which will get blocked off when the new inner fender goes in.

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The rear half of the inner fender is getting moved back a couple inches as shown by the white line.

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1/4" steel rod was added to stiffen up the quarter panel as well as provide a surface to weld the new inner fender to.

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Trimmed and ready.

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Back half of wheelwell reinstalled

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Close up the gap :thumbsup:

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This is with the Jeep sitting at stock height. Fits nicely :D

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i like the wheels its looking good i have 6in skyjaker lift and running 38.5s

Will be watching for more "fab" work. What is the plan for other NON bolt on stuff, besides rear fenders? Planning on tackling the front inners? or stretch the front to keep the tires out of the interior/firewall ?

Planning on tackling the front inners? or stretch the front to keep the tires out of the interior/firewall ?

Both.

The circled portion shown below becomes an issue when moving the axle forward so we've removed the front half of the inner fender and are working on a replacement piece in order to gain the clearance we need.

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Passenger side front inner removed

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like to see some pics of where you move the comp and fuse box ect yo when you have it done

I like the rear cutting, looks like it went a hell of a lot easier than mine. How are you planning on doing the area between the inner well and the outer fender in the rear? Im gonna need to redo my wells this winter when I redo the rear susp. Right now I dont have enough flex to have to worry about rubbing in the rear. :(

I would like to see how you did this on the side with the gas tank fill? That side looks to be more difficult to fab.

How are you planning on doing the area between the inner well and the outer fender in the rear? :(

We'll be making a filler piece that'll be flanged where it mates up to the other half of the inner well and welds directly to the 1/4 rod we used to stiffen up the quarter panel. We'll get some pics up when it's done.

I would like to see how you did this on the side with the gas tank fill? That side looks to be more difficult to fab.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC01145.jpg

The bottom corner of the wheelwell stops right at the filler neck housing/enclosure thats visible inside.

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Very interesting, I look forward to your progress. Im thinking way ahead here but will you ship templates out with your parts for easy trimming or is it too intricate?

Very interesting, I look forward to your progress. Im thinking way ahead here but will you ship templates out with your parts for easy trimming or is it too intricate?

There are too many variables involved to offer any of the rear modification as retail item. The fillers in the rear are not that intricate and could easily be reproduced with a cardboard template and cut out by a local shop or at home.

Now for the front!

As mentioned previously, the circled area in the attached picture was going to interfere with our goal so it had to go. Thankfully, the front inner fender is made up of two pieces so all we had to do was remove the front half.

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Once removed we fabbed up a replacement that gives us the clearance needed.

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Some of the area in red is still going to have to die but we won't know for sure how much until the front axle is installed.

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still gonna keep a factory look as far as the header panel goes up front?

Very cool, will be keeping an eye on this one for sure. That's got to be the cleanest rear wheel well trim/bodywork I have seen on a xj yet.

ooooooo..... i like that.......

get some pics of what you did with the battery and ECM

just curious, if you plan on running 37's, why would you run a dana 30? Im only running 35s, but I like the added security of having a 44 front. 37s on a dana 30 is scary.

Fixed the area you needed circled to show what is an interference. :smokin:
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Are you planning on plating the uni body at all? seems like a lot of stress on 37s. Mine is plated with 3/16th" material up to the engine bay area, and i will be finishing it once the front suspension is done all the way to the front bumper mounts.

Very nice work keep it up

just curious, if you plan on running 37's, why would you run a dana 30? Im only running 35s, but I like the added security of having a 44 front. 37s on a dana 30 is scary.

Couple reasons. First off, we already had one that was fully trussed with the correct gears and an ARB. Secondly, the JK D30 has a larger ring gear than the TJ/XJ D30 making it stronger, throw on our full truss and a set of Alloy shafts and will last all day long.

still gonna keep a factory look as far as the header panel goes up front?

Maybe. We're reinstalling the fenders today so we can see how much more has to die :evil:

Are you planning on plating the uni body at all? seems like a lot of stress on 37s. Mine is plated with 3/16th" material up to the engine bay area, and i will be finishing it once the front suspension is done all the way to the front bumper mounts.

The rig is already running our 3/16" chassis stiffeners which run from the front LCA mount to just past the rear leaf spring hanger. We'll be adding some additional bracing along the front of the unibody rail that's been cleaned in the above pictures.

The rig is already running our 3/16" chassis stiffeners which run from the front LCA mount to just past the rear leaf spring hanger. We'll be adding some additional bracing along the front of the unibody rail that's been cleaned in the above pictures.

Does this mean that you will be selling said bracing in the near future?

Inner fender all welded up. The filler was a b**** to fit up but it turned out nice once completed.

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Got the body work in the rear started and mostly finished over the weekend.

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you guys make it all look so damn easy

and in for more info on front/rear stiffeners from you guys

Does this mean that you will be selling said bracing in the near future?

x3

Does this mean that you will be selling said bracing in the near future?

you guys make it all look so damn easy

and in for more info on front/rear stiffeners from you guys

x3

We don't have them cut yet so I have no idea on pricing but I don't see any reason why we wouldn't.

Nice, I love body work!! Most guys hate t, but I am pretty good at it, so it makes it easier to like. What did you do when welding around the Gas tank? I am sketchy about doing it.

Nice, I love bod work!! Mos gys hate t, butI am good at i so it makes it easier to like. Whatdid you do when welding arund the Gas tank? I am sketchy about doing it.

We were very careful :D.

We were very careful :D.

HAHAHA! Sounds like my plans, keep the pics coming looks great so far.

What did you do when welding around the Gas tank? I am sketchy about doing it.
how about you just drop the tank, its not exactly difficult...:shaking:

couple reasons. First off, we already had one that was fully trussed with the correct gears and an arb. Secondly, the jk d30 has a larger ring gear than the tj/xj d30 making it stronger, throw on our full truss and a set of alloy shafts and will last all day long.

fail

fail

x2..I was hoping to hear this was temp, this should be fun. :shaking:

how about you just drop the tank, its not exactly difficult...:shaking:

When I go to do it That will be the first thing I planned to do, but what is planned is not always the way things work out. So I get opinions, views, and experiences from all angles. In the end I do what is the safest and works the best.

fail

x2..I was hoping to hear this was temp, this should be fun. :shaking:

:p

Hmmmm lets see.....We've had one surviving in a TJ for nearly two years running 37's and one in a ZJ for just as long with 37's and a V8. Both have wheeled in California, Utah, Colorado and South Dakota. I'm not concerned although I wouldn't run anything larger than a 37.

The rear axle reinstalled

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We're currently playing with the front one to see how far foward we can get it before the steering crashes on itself.

We're currently playing with the front one to see how far foward we can get it before the steering crashes on itself.

The steering box is rather easy to move. stretch it till the tires fit that deal with the steering later. :p

The steering box is rather easy to move. stretch it till the tires fit that deal with the steering later. :p

We're running a crossover steering setup on the axle which has allowed us to move it forward over two inches so far without moving the box and without any clearance issues.

:p

Hmmmm lets see.....We've had one surviving in a TJ for nearly two years running 37's and one in a ZJ for just as long with 37's and a V8. Both have wheeled in California, Utah, Colorado and South Dakota. I'm not concerned although I wouldn't run anything larger than a 37.

ive heard other people who swear the jk30 is a 'totally different axle' from the old style 30. do you have any numbers or info to prove this? not trying to call you out, just wondering because i havent been able to find anything besides people saying 'they did all this to the jk44's, so they must have done the same to the jk30's'.

ive heard other people who swear the jk30 is a 'totally different axle' from the old style 30. do you have any numbers or info to prove this? not trying to call you out, just wondering because i havent been able to find anything besides people saying 'they did all this to the jk44's, so they must have done the same to the jk30's'.

No worries. I goofed though, I meant to say pinion rather than ring gear. The pinion shaft in the JK30 is nearly twice the size of the standard 30's greatly reducing ring gear deflection helping them hold up a bit better to larger tires. I'll see if we have one floating around for a pic and comparison.

No worries. I goofed though, I meant to say pinion rather than ring gear. The pinion shaft in the JK30 is nearly twice the size of the standard 30's greatly reducing ring gear deflection helping them hold up a bit better to larger tires. I'll see if we have one floating around for a pic and comparison.

any difference in axle shaft diameter or spline count?

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that limiting strap will never work..... :flipoff2:

excellent on the 1/4" rod to weld inner fender to. good thinking on that one

ive heard other people who swear the jk30 is a 'totally different axle' from the old style 30. do you have any numbers or info to prove this? not trying to call you out, just wondering because i havent been able to find anything besides people saying 'they did all this to the jk44's, so they must have done the same to the jk30's'.

any difference in axle shaft diameter or spline count?

I've asked around a few times, and I cant seem to get an answer(seems most JK owners know nothing about their Jeeps:rolleyes: ), but from everything I've been able to piece together(based on comparing part numbers, of replacement parts and lockers):
The outers are 32 spline, inners are 27 spline, new gen 1350 u-joints

I can not confirm or deny that the pinion shaft is larger, as I have yet to see any info to show this, other than Chrysler calls it the New Gen Dana 30, but I suspect it is true.

Awesome Build! The body mods are like someone opened up my head and ran with it! I really like where this build is going. Any idea on how much the front and rear were or will be stretched when done?

Sneak peek (approx. 4" lift) :cheers:

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We've been very impressed with them so we're once again going with ORO's SwayLok to handle swaybar duties in the front. To keep it out of harms way our bumper mounts were modified to act as the mounting point for the swaybar tube.

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The front crossmember had to be notched but once the swaybar tube is installed it will weld to the bumper mounts as well as the crossmember.

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looking good, i like those wheels. and that theres no more yellow...

looking good, i like those wheels. and that theres no more yellow...

:shaking: All you yellow haters :D

thoes TR moabs are sexy...

The updates have been slow as we're busy spring cleaning for our Grand Re-Opening Saturday. I did manage to get the underhood components mounted up.

As you can see, the winch controller, ARB compressor, computer and even the new washer fluid bottle fit nicely.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC01288.jpg

We've yet to complete the hold-down but as mentioned before the battery will sit on its side.

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lookin good... keep the pics comin

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any idea if you plan on selling this panel?

The rear axle reinstalled

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We're currently playing with the front one to see how far foward we can get it before the steering crashes on itself.

How much uptravel does this set up offer?

I'm THINKING of linking the rear in my XJ, and yourset up looks similar to what I'm planning...

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use cruise much?

gotta love a low riding XJ on big tires...

any idea if you plan on selling this panel?

Found this in the Advanced Fabrication and Engineering section on NAXJA:

Several of you have PM'd me or posted up about whether or not we'll be offering the front inner fender panels. With this much interest how could we not . Give me a few days and I'll get some pricing worked up for you. The only thing I don't know is how well they will fit in an early model.The red line in the circled area seen below is the front edge profile in my 99' which may or may not be the same in the earlier body styles. Of course these won't be a direct bolt in anyway, some trimming may be required for fitment.

use cruise much?

gotta love a low riding XJ on big tires...

Only downhill with the wind behind me. :D

With the bigger tires going in we decided that the front unibody rail could use some extra beefing so an extension to our chassis stiffeners was added to both sides.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC01317.jpg

In addition to the above getting done yesterday, we finished running the brakelines on the rear axle, hooked up the front ones, installed the fenders and grill to see how much more of the body will have to die, tightened up all the suspension and.....



...........added some axle bling :D

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Do you not care to answer my question? :confused:

Do you not care to answer my question? :confused:

Oops, I missed it.

How much uptravel does this set up offer?

It all depends on what rear coils are used but with the 2.5" OME LJ coils it has around 3"

Why'd you ditch the ARB cover? Was there something performance wise that you didn't like about it?

Why'd you ditch the ARB cover? Was there something performance wise that you didn't like about it?

Nope. ARB doesn't make an 8.8 cover and I wanted the front and rear covers to match.

update?

We got everything buttoned up for the most part on Friday. Just in time for me to take it on a 500 mile test ride to go wheeling with a group in Southern Colorado. The trail we ran is called Medano Pass which has 14 water crossings plus several mud holes so it's a bit dirty :D

Our ultimate goal of 4" didn't work out as we were unable to get decent uptravel in the rear with that short of a setup. We decided to leave it at the 5.5" height it was previously which is still fairly low for an XJ on 37's

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I'm supposed to be going up to South Dakota next week to go wheeling for four days so we'll get some better pics and let you know how it works.

Rod

looking good, those rear fenderwells came out super clean. are you still running without a gas tank skid?

looking good, those rear fenderwells came out super clean. are you still running without a gas tank skid?

Sorry to say but yes. Although, the bumper you see in the pics is an uncompleted prototype that has mounting provisions on the bottom for a skid which we'll be designing as well.

that aint low :flipoff2:

that aint low :flipoff2:
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How about 42s on 6.5". :flipoff2:


TNT, I love this XJ! The work you did is super clean and nearly impossible to tell its been extensively clearanced. I also love the wheel setup. They look great!

Hold your shorts fellas, I'm not done with this one yet. I fully intend it to run on a 3.5" - 4" lift. I have a few ideas but need time to get it in for round 2. For now we're going to finish up the rear bumper and yes get a gas skid made for it.

For now it's up and running again and we can get it out and play a little. Stay Tuned.

Bob

Project Low Wagon performed flawlessly. I highly recommend wheeling the Black Hills if you ever get a chance.

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nice. can i see some pics of how ur rear coils are mounted on top? are those tj stock or lift springs? they look mounted upside down any reason for that?

nice. can i see some pics of how ur rear coils are mounted on top? are those tj stock or lift springs? they look mounted upside down any reason for that?

They are 2" OME medium rate TJ springs. The coil is sitting upright.

Here's a shot from when we first installed the conversion.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC08616-1.jpg

How long are your 4-link arms and what kind of anti-squat #s does your system have? Does it come up threw the floor? I couldn't find it on your site:confused:

They are 2" OME medium rate TJ springs. The coil is sitting upright.

Here's a shot from when we first installed the conversion.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC08616-1.jpg

I would like to know a price on this kit also?

I couldn't find it on your site:confused:

Still working on getting the new webpage completed.

I would like to know a price on this kit also?

Are you wanting the full kit or just an upgrade?

how about some answers on the other questions? can it be used on its own without the front system?

looks liek the rear is to soft. the rear looks to be working twice as hard as the front.

Are you wanting the full kit or just an upgrade?
Just the rear upgrade. with the 4 link.

looks liek the rear is to soft. the rear looks to be working twice as hard as the front.

I agree, it looks like it moves the same exact way my WJ does, and I complain about how soft my rear is. It flexs well but bottoms out with a vengance if i start trying to get any speed. I need stiffer spring rates in the rear to balance everything out.

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know any decent junkyard springs or other that are in the ~250-270lb-inch range? I feel like I heard my current Clayton rear coils are in the 220 range

how about some answers on the other questions? can it be used on its own without the front system?

Those are classified :D.

For the moment it's designed tie into our modular Y-link bellypan so no, the rear is not availablr as a stand alone kit.

looks liek the rear is to soft. the rear looks to be working twice as hard as the front.

I agree, it looks like it moves the same exact way my WJ does, and I complain about how soft my rear is. It flexs well but bottoms out with a vengance if i start trying to get any speed. I need stiffer spring rates in the rear to balance everything out.

We're currently running 2.5" OME Heavy rate TJ rear springs. The front was also bumpstopped rather conservatively until we had a chance to try things out and see what kind of tire clearance we had in real world conditions which adds to the rear "looking" too soft. Keep in mind that we're still not completely finished with this rig. Even though it performed beautifully in South Dakota there is still some tuning and adjustments that need to be made so stay tuned cause we plan on wheeling this rig pretty hard in the coming months.

For the moment it's designed tie into our modular Y-link bellypan so no, the rear is not availablr as a stand alone kit.

I was under the impression that it would bolt up to the standard XJ belly pan, since it seems to be the same pan, but with the control arm mounts and the optional HD internal braces.

I was under the impression that it would bolt up to the standard XJ belly pan, since it seems to be the same pan, but with the control arm mounts and the optional HD internal braces.

The HD pan was not mentioned because it's not what is offered with the kit. Yes, technically the rear 4-link could bolt up to our HD bellypan but since there are no aftermarket LA setups that work with our pan that would leave the customer to design/fabricate their own as would be the case with you since your already running our HD pan.

The rear axle reinstalled

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC01230.jpg

We're currently playing with the front one to see how far foward we can get it before the steering crashes on itself.

Im guessing that tube welded to the plate on the unibody rail is for your rock rails? Is it just one bolt for each leg to the Jeep? Hows that been holding up for you?

Im guessing that tube welded to the plate on the unibody rail is for your rock rails? Is it just one bolt for each leg to the Jeep? Hows that been holding up for you?

Your correct. The mounts have a flange on them so they can either be bolted to the frame or welded directly like you see in the pic. We have three frame mounts per side and attach to the pinch seam at ten points per side so any hard impact on the sliders is well distibuted. I can tell you that I've come down on them hard enough to jar my teeth and have yet to have a bolt fail any where on the sliders.

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I saw from an earlier post you said you found these panels over on naxja. I have been looking for over an hour now so I figured I would just ask. do you have a direct link where you found them???
Clean looking jeep............from my home town too, always a plus.

They make them. http://tntcustoms.com/innerfenderpanels.aspx

They make them. http://tntcustoms.com/innerfenderpanels.aspx
Thanks a lot. Looks like I might be bending my own. Gonna buy a shitty bending brake and get to work.

Front inner panel-I want them!

The rear link kit-I want it! But with a truss for a 14 bolt!

:D

wheres the zj long arm ive been waiting so long to see and buy!?

wheres the zj long arm ive been waiting so long to see and buy!?

It's getting closer. We currently have our ZJ torn apart so we can verify all the production files before releasing it.

first time iv seen the thread and i like the xj :grinpimp:

iv got a noob question for you, when you run the bolts for the rear cross member what are they threading into on the other side?

i agree.. this is one sick xj. nice build Rock Yacht!

first time iv seen the thread and i like the xj :grinpimp:

iv got a noob question for you, when you run the bolts for the rear cross member what are they threading into on the other side?

I assume your refering to the suspension crossmember? If so, we supply weld-in bungs that get recessed and then welded to our 3/16" chassis stiffeners which are part of the kit.

pictures dammit!

Here's some shots of it on Carnage canyon BV down in Colorado.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Carnage%200910/DSC_0692.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Carnage%200910/DSC_0669.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Carnage%200910/DSC_0508.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Carnage%200910/DSC02320.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Carnage%200910/DSC_0698.jpg

pictures dammit!

Of??????? The bungs? Just posted more of the Jeep when your thread popped up.

It will be down your way in June for Rock Junction. You gonna be there?

Of??????? The bungs? Just posted more of the Jeep when your thread popped up.

It will be down your way in June for Rock Junction. You gonna be there?

:laughing:

nah hes got the bungs thing down but imo his will last longer in his rig.

looks like i need to get to Colorado, i see too many different good wheelin spots up there :D

Of??????? The bungs? Just posted more of the Jeep when your thread popped up.

It will be down your way in June for Rock Junction. You gonna be there?

well that's embarrassing..... hahahaha those pics weren't there when i posted up lol fail..

and damn right i'll be there...

EDIT: lets take it to billings and fuck it up... haha

Nice build. Dumb question but who did your rims? I need to get mine done. 7 of them actually...

Best of Luck,

Mike

Those are Trailready conversions.

Nice build. Dumb question but who did your rims? I need to get mine done. 7 of them actually...

Best of Luck,

Mike

Those are Trailready conversions.

Yep, give them a call. It usually runs around $200 a wheel to convert 17's.

The rear axle reinstalled

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC01230.jpg

We're currently playing with the front one to see how far foward we can get it before the steering crashes on itself.

On the axle side, are those factory style lower control arm mounts? Did you just angle the arms on the bushing/mount for the triangulation of the lowers? Or did you angle the actual tabs/LCA mount?

On the axle side, are those factory style lower control arm mounts? Did you just angle the arms on the bushing/mount for the triangulation of the lowers? Or did you angle the actual tabs/LCA mount?

Those mounts are our standard replacement HD LCA mounts. The bushing housing is angled on the end of the arm.

Thanks, that's the exact answer I was looking for :smokin:

Its too bad the 4" lift didnt work out, i liked the lift/tire ratio.

Did you use a special tool to remove those spot welds on the front fenders? It looks sooooo clean

Its too bad the 4" lift didnt work out, i liked the lift/tire ratio.

Did you use a special tool to remove those spot welds on the front fenders? It looks sooooo clean


why cant the 4 inch springs work?
if theyre too soft why not go to a slightly stiffer spring thats a hair shorter to keep the ride height?

so those are stock wrangler wheels converted to TR's? What you just shipped them your wheels, and they convert them and send them back all pretty like that ?

jeep is looking really good man just curious how the coils in the rear are working for you. ive thought of doing coils in the back of mine but i kind of like how the leafs add to the stability or atleast thats the way it feels for me after wheeling with in my buddies zj

so those are stock wrangler wheels converted to TR's? What you just shipped them your wheels, and they convert them and send them back all pretty like that ?

Yep! :D

jeep is looking really good man just curious how the coils in the rear are working for you. ive thought of doing coils in the back of mine but i kind of like how the leafs add to the stability or atleast thats the way it feels for me after wheeling with in my buddies zj

It definitely wheels different than it did before. The dual rate of the Swayloc helps when off camber cause it still retains some swaybar. We're going to go beat on it some more next month at the Chile Challenge.

Rod, now that your XJ is getting done. next is the ZJ grand.:smokin::p I think you need to get some yellow powder coating done. just to accent the black.

Tim

No worries. I goofed though, I meant to say pinion rather than ring gear. The pinion shaft in the JK30 is nearly twice the size of the standard 30's greatly reducing ring gear deflection helping them hold up a bit better to larger tires. I'll see if we have one floating around for a pic and comparison.

Ever come up with a pic?

i did this and i had the stock plastic fenders on it before i cut it i just traced the outside edge of the stock fender ,when i got to the back of the fender i free handed it with a piece of chock so the lines looked some what natural towards the back. then the fun part i cut the shit outta it with a cutting wheel. im not a good welder so i used 1/2 inch rolled rod was easier to for me to weld on and a little stouter. if you plan to spin the rear leafs you will have to take more out and move the filler hole..alls i can say is eye it up so it looks natural. hope i was a help and thanks for the great idea mines not as pretty as this but o well..

sorry for hijacking. thanks.yah if you outline the stock fender like i said it should be plenty for 38s i have 37s but really 36.5after tread wear ..just eye it up get one side done and get your measurment pic befor i spun the leafs

i did this and i had the stock plastic fenders on it before i cut it i just traced the outside edge of the stock fender ,when i got to the back of the fender i free handed it with a piece of chock so the lines looked some what natural towards the back. then the fun part i cut the shit outta it with a cutting wheel. im not a good welder so i used 1/2 inch rolled rod was easier to for me to weld on and a little stouter. if you plan to spin the rear leafs you will have to take more out and move the filler hole..alls i can say is eye it up so it looks natural. hope i was a help and thanks for the great idea mines not as pretty as this but o well..

Looks good!

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The XJ looks great. I'm sitting in Afghanistan with a stack of T&T boxes sitting at home waiting on me. Can't wait to get home and get to work. In the meantime I'll just drool over yours. :D

Ever come up with a pic?

I Just found this one:
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x343/Rod_Draper/img_0001.jpg

I Just found this one:
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x343/Rod_Draper/img_0001.jpg

Thanks. I looked around for a couple but we recently ran a bunch of scrap so I couldn't come up with any.

We've yet to complete the hold-down but as mentioned before the battery will sit on its side.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww112/TnTCustoms/Project%20Low%20Wagon/DSC01289.jpg

What did you end up doing with the battery? please post some pictures if you have any