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larcwing
08-01-2001, 10:20 PM
When I had my Gears and arb put in, I was told that a Dana 44 out of an izuzu Rodeo bolts right up...has anyone tried it? <IMG SRC="smilies/girly.gif" border="0">

JohnC
08-02-2001, 12:33 AM
What I've heard, is that the Isuzu Rodeo and Honda Passports have metric dana 44s.

Boston Mangler
08-02-2001, 04:00 AM
yes, they fit (all relative) but i have heard they had aluminum center sections like the Grands

also they are 6 bolt

i might be wrong

XJ
08-02-2001, 06:38 AM
How is the D44 setup on isuzu? Coil I guess but someone know? It's new to me to learn that there is D44 on it.

JeepZJ
08-02-2001, 08:00 AM
The Isuzu Dana 44s are iron. I have heard of a few swaps into Jeeps. Supposed to work pretty good. I'll stick to the 8.8.
Nathan

borton
08-02-2001, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by XJ:
<STRONG>How is the D44 setup on isuzu? Coil I guess but someone know? It's new to me to learn that there is D44 on it.</STRONG>

they are leaf springs in the rear where the 44 is, and they also have disk breaks, and the newer style have one of those cool aluminum finned covers, that would probably get trashed.

CJBoxer
08-02-2001, 08:29 AM
I have one on my CJ7, they are around 59" and have disc brakes, the brake lines are metric so you can reflare one end of the hard line (what I did) or get an adapter. The emergency brakes I haven't hooked up yet, still trying to figure the best way to work it in to the stock setup, or fabricate a center console emergency brake lever like the TJ's and Rodeo's. Mine came with 4.10 gears, Isuzu uses special 4.10 gears just like the TJ's, meaning the carrier is the same as the 3.73 and down numerically. Remember that if you ever want to buy a Detroit and retain the stock gears (personal experience).

XJ
08-02-2001, 10:12 AM
Someone know the distance perch-perch of the Rodeo D44?

JnJ
08-02-2001, 10:37 AM
Are they sprung under or over? This was also suggest to me for my XJ. What did the one you put in your CJ cost?

CJBoxer
08-02-2001, 12:20 PM
If I remember correctly I think they were spring over, but hell I can't remember <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0"> Does it really matter, cut them off and put new ones where you want, doesn't get any easier than that. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I paid $500 for mine.

PIG
08-02-2001, 10:18 PM
AL center section.........I'd Pass thanks. 500 damn thats alot of doe. Pick and pull holiday specials???? Around 50 bucks for a Waggy.

massey2jeep
08-02-2001, 10:28 PM
I read about this possible swap in one of the mags.
1. I think it IS 6 lug.
2. I think it is aluminium.
3. The 44 parts from a Rodeo and newer Grands are not interchangeable with other 44 parts!
A 44, IS NOT A 44, IS NOT A 44!
<IMG SRC="smilies/massey.gif" border="0">

XJ
08-03-2001, 06:36 AM
Ok massey... 10-04 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

CJBoxer
08-03-2001, 09:18 AM
Before you guys stick your foot in you mouth any further, you might want to get your facts straight instead of spewing heresay <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> The centers section is not aluminum, they have a 6 x 5.5 bolt pattern, are sprung under and have disc brakes. I am sure you could find the axle cheaper as the same applies for the 8.8 <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

CJBoxer

Beezil
08-03-2001, 11:45 AM
This one is for JNJ...

what kind of lame as question is that monkey-spank???

"is it spring over or under?"

Who the fawk cares? Would it matter???
You big wuss, i could just see you now..."Oh, gee whiz, that's a spring under, I can't use that, I'd have to saw the old perches off, and weld new ones on, sniff-sniff"....

You pantyhose wearing butt munch, remember you told me to come over here, cause this is where the hardcore builders hang out....so i guess my question is...what were you doing here in the first place???

oh, and here it comes:

<IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

XJ
08-03-2001, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Beezil:
<STRONG>This one is for JNJ...

what kind of lame as question is that monkey-spank???

"is it spring over or under?"

Who the fawk cares? Would it matter???

</STRONG>

Sorry, but I doooooooooo <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

here is for you too <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

JnJ
08-03-2001, 04:16 PM
For Beez the butt munch.
I was asking not really for myself, but just to get the info out there. I have no plans for a isuzu anything under my XJ, so needle dick the bug fawker, I guess you can bite me. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">. By the way I beleave the best part of you ran down your mama's leg. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">. So any way, hows the CJ-6? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">Them new springs wrapping yet?

larcwing
08-30-2001, 09:18 PM
Ok guys...remember the languge....Being how I was the one to ask and that I am a female (but will never admit to being a lady, I like gettin down and dirty too much) I'd just appreciate a little curtosey. tks

And thank you for all the info as well. <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0">

Dain Bramage
08-30-2001, 10:21 PM
From a Zu owner and non guru...

The Isuzu D44 is a little different. It does have a pretty aluminum diff cover with mangleable fins (who cares) and the shafts have a 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern just like any other 6 bolt wheel save for dodges lame ass 6 on 4.5
They all have disc brakes, and the Isuzu has a kinda unique thing...a drum brake INSIDE the rotor that is used for the parking brake.

The D44 from a 98+ rodeo, amigo (yeah, i said amigo) and rodeo sport are all 5 link coil sprung units that flex QUITE well. Rodeo's had the d44 from 94 on. The Amigo was not available from 94 to 98 and during that 4 year hiatus there were SOME changes made to the rodeo. Most of them were leaf sprung, under. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> All early Amigo's were leaf sprung but I don't think they had the d44, i think they have the Isuzu Corporate 10 bolt (a comparable diff to the d44)

What's all this boil down to?? Use the coil setup from a 98+ and I KNOW you are getting a D44, with 4.30's already in em, some with LSD. LSD is denoted by an orange tag hanging off one of the diff cover bolts and Option code G90 (i think) and the factory LSD is a TracLoc.

As far as adapting the Isuzu D44, you need to know that the carrier is a little different. It is also exchangeable and right now one of my buds is working with OX to get the OX locker available for Isuzu as a production item. He already has one in the rear of his Amigo and they are now working on the front one.

That is all the info i have off the top of my head, Randii and Belly Dragger have a bunch of info on this stuff. Randii is the INFO GURU in this area.

Sorry I can't be more help <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

[ 09-01-2001: Message edited by: Jay Dawg ]

James Hasler
08-31-2001, 09:04 AM
Hey,
The Ford 8.8 out of the Explorer has the same type of parking brake (small drum in rotor) as the Isuzu...

James

The Rockslut
08-31-2001, 10:53 AM
This is a much better swap into a Toy than jeep unless you are running a waggy front and want to change just your wheels. Being that everything is 6 lug

massey2jeep
08-31-2001, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by CJBoxer:
<STRONG>Before you guys stick your foot in you mouth any further, you might want to get your facts straight instead of spewing heresay <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> The centers section is not aluminum, they have a 6 x 5.5 bolt pattern, are sprung under and have disc brakes. I am sure you could find the axle cheaper as the same applies for the 8.8 <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

CJBoxer</STRONG>

I said "I think they are aluminum." not that I know for sure they are you F&#KIN dumbass! <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> SOOO... I'm sure you were not talking to me.
Who the heck invited you anyway newbie!?!

If you weren't refering to me...I apologize.

XJ-
lol ya freakin smart-ass. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

CJBoxer
09-02-2001, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by massey2jeep:
<STRONG>I said "I think they are aluminum." not that I know for sure they are you F&#KIN dumbass! <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0"> SOOO... I'm sure you were not talking to me.
Who the heck invited you anyway newbie!?!

If you weren't refering to me...I apologize.

</STRONG>

So who is the dumbass, if you don't know what you're fawkn talking about, don't muddy the water <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">
Newbie huh better start posting heresay so I can achieve status of Massey <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

CJBoxer

XJ Hunter
09-03-2001, 07:58 PM
Isuzu...BWAHHAHAHAHAHA...whats next Toy v6 third member searching...haha

CaptainFleXJ151
09-04-2001, 01:00 PM
Nothing unique about the parking brake setup, I know my 8.8" has it and so do all the BMW's we've ever owned with rear discs. The last one was an 85 model. SO it's been around.

Recurve
08-27-2002, 01:12 PM
Hate to bring this bitch fest back up but I saw one of these when I went to have my van inspected this morning. It was up on a rack and I could clearly see that this Rodeo D44 had 6 lugs, drum brakes, coil springs, and a cool, beefy looking finned diff cover that apparently was aluminum.:( I had been wondering about these rears to match waggy fronts when a decent mid 80's or so donor could not be found. What's the definative word on the width? Any new info on these things? :flipoff2: Sorry, got a 4 banger and 33-35's til it blows.

robobx
08-27-2002, 03:30 PM
My Rodeo rear is not aluminum, does have disks.

Recurve
08-27-2002, 06:36 PM
Yeah it's not very clear but I was remarking about the finned diff cover being aluminum. How about your diff cover?

JEEP_TJ_FREAK
08-27-2002, 09:55 PM
I would think a waggy D44 front and a Rodeo D44 rear would be a pretty good combo if the thing is a classis D44. I would rather have an 8.8" but it is 5 on 4.5" which limits you for hubs and axles unless you want to run custom shafts, I think you can redrill the 8.8" shafts to 5 on 5.5" thought. The waggy axle shares the 6 on 5.5" pattern so the isuzu would fit right in.


I have been thinking EB D44 front and keep the radius arm setup, maybe even wristed.

robobx
08-30-2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Recurve
Yeah it's not very clear but I was remarking about the finned diff cover being aluminum. How about your diff cover?

I don't know if it was the original diff cover or not, but it isn't finned alum.

robobx
08-30-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK
I would think a waggy D44 front and a Rodeo D44 rear would be a pretty good combo if the thing is a classis D44

That's what I have, I don't mind the 6 on 5.5" But the axle combo is great and all the HD shit on the waggy axle dwarfs the stock TJ crap.