Well, after 9 LONG weeks of waiting, my new 'shortie' OTT arms are Finally here :grinpimp:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/920035-BlingBling.JPG

they are purdy little things ain't they

WOW...had to turn the bright down on the screen!!!!

Blin...Bling is rite!

:flipoff2:

who makes those?......i just got a set of yota axles and was lookin at steering stuff the other day.....i was thinkin about goin to sky mfg route but still not sure.....

Originally posted by zukiboy
who makes those?......i just got a set of yota axles and was lookin at steering stuff the other day.....i was thinkin about goin to sky mfg route but still not sure.....


I got a pair from All Pro for my yota axles. Not sure but those look like ther are a 2 peice deal mine were all one peice???

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
Well, after 9 LONG weeks of waiting, my new 'shortie' OTT arms are Finally here :grinpimp:

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/920035-BlingBling.JPG

Thats not a bolt holding the king pin bearing thingy on is it?:eek:

With Toy axles under a Samurai & using Toyota IFS power steering box, if you go hysteer you have an issue where you can't move the steering box forward enough for the drag link to clear the tie rod. You can shorten the pitman arm too & it helps but the OTT arms will put me where I need to be.

I saw that they are 2-piece, also. Not sure why they produced them that way. But I finally got 'em now & they are going on tonight!

Sky's arms are the most economical I've seen, but I run rod ends & his are all tapered to big, plus are the 'longer' style. I like their design, and if I had a different steering box I'd probably have gone that route.

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Thats not a bolt holding the king pin bearing thingy on is it?:eek:



Note the legal disclaimer somewhere around the picture in this link:





OTT (http://www.ottindustries.com/Steering_Arms.html)

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Thats not a bolt holding the king pin bearing thingy on is it?:eek:

If the king pin bearing thingy is piloted a good way into the other piece, I´d say that the bolt is OK. If it´s just sitting there, then I´d send the fawkers back.........

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Originally posted by billj


If the king pin bearing thingy is piloted a good way into the other piece, I´d say that the bolt is OK. If it´s just sitting there, then I´d send the fawkers back.........

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See edited post above.

Exactly how do you think other aftermarket hysteer arm manufacturers produce their versions of the trunion bearing support? They weld them on

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
With Toy axles under a Samurai & using Toyota IFS power steering box, if you go hysteer you have an issue where you can't move the steering box forward enough for the drag link to clear the tie rod. You can shorten the pitman arm too & it helps but the OTT arms will put me where I need to be.


For my curiosity (since I've got the OTT stuff, and a Toy IFS box..) Just how far forward did you try pusing the box? And was your front axle moved forward any? So far, it looks like it will all clear on my setup..

I mounted my IFS box as far forward as I could without having to cut the Exterior sheet metal away.

Yes, I've moved my front axle forward a Lot :D

If you recall, Fatkid moved his ps box even farther forward, used standard hysteer arms, fabbed a shorter pitman arm - kinda looks like a stubby AllPro arm.


Maybe yours will work - hope it does. Try it. But mine wouldn't.

Ok, we will see.

I cut the front sheet metal. Hey, it was going to be dented anyway.. :D

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER


See edited post above.

Exactly how do you think other aftermarket hysteer arm manufacturers produce their versions of the trunion bearing support? They weld them on

For reference, Kong's new ones are pressed in with an interference fit. The design was changed to allow them to sell them in more places (there are laws against welded steering components in some locations).

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER
With Toy axles under a Samurai & using Toyota IFS power steering box, if you go hysteer you have an issue where you can't move the steering box forward enough for the drag link to clear the tie rod. You can shorten the pitman arm too & it helps but the OTT arms will put me where I need to be.

I saw that they are 2-piece, also. Not sure why they produced them that way. But I finally got 'em now & they are going on tonight!

Sky's arms are the most economical I've seen, but I run rod ends & his are all tapered to big, plus are the 'longer' style. I like their design, and if I had a different steering box I'd probably have gone that route.


That's why you don't use toy steering and go streight for the saginaw!!!!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Thats not a bolt holding the king pin bearing thingy on is it?:eek:


I am with you
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY



I am with you
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I would not have a signle concern putting naything fromm OTT on my truck top notch totaly thought out. If there was any concern as in safety they would not sell it.;)

I am just saying I feel better putting on a one peice deal than a 2 peace espically where ther is alot of stress.




















Yes I know I can't spell!!!!!!!:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
I am just saying I feel better putting on a one peice deal than a 2 peace espically where ther is alot of stress.




...so buy yourself some welded hysteer arms - but they won't be 'shortie' arms :p

"feature precision fitted mechanical connections only"

From OTT website, leads me to believe an interference fit with bolt as extra security.

Ken

, leads me to believe an interference fit with bolt as extra security. BINGO at table 10! It's there to ensure the interference fit, stays interferred!

I was at OTT on the weekend and let me tell you shortie arms ain't the only thing they got going for toy steering. There new pitman arms are BEEFY and machined from a single piece of 4140! :eek: :eek:
OOPS, was that still a secret? :evil: :flipoff2: :D

A few new things for zuks, and of course a couple of kicker's on the shop floor awaiting finishing touches. And of course it's all *bling, bling*

The wait maybe a little on the long side but it's worth it. Grasshopper, I have seen the otherside of the mountain. It is much greener! :D :D

Originally posted by 0ILBURNER




...so buy yourself some welded hysteer arms - but they won't be 'shortie' arms :p



I did and your rite they arn't shorties........... havent had any problems worked out great with my power steering set up! :flipoff2:

What stress is there on the the pin, its a centering spot that everything pivots on. think about the forces acting on it. as long as its solidy held in place who cares if its welded or bolted. once its installed you probably could take the bolt out and never have a problem...

The reason I think its not 1-piece (I don't mean welded) is that the kingpin bearing is centered by it.

That means you want some don't fuck with me strong steel for that piece. The rest of the arm would be retarded expensive to machine out how hard of steel you would use for the pin.

That little pin is keeping your tires on, and it's yield strength has to be high. You also don't want it all galled up and welded to the bearing if the kingpin bearings are seized, another reason to keep it hard.

The stock sami kingpins use a hardened pin pressed and welded topside. The weld is as far away from the bearing end as possible.

As for the arms, there is room to use a large section size to get your strength.
Ken

It also has to do with keeping material and machining costs down. They can mill the arms from smaller billets and then have the pins turned from round stock. I'd say it cuts the time in half at least versus one piece arms.

JP

Originally posted by Pook
What stress is there on the the pin, its a centering spot that everything pivots on. think about the forces acting on it. as long as its solidy held in place who cares if its welded or bolted. once its installed you probably could take the bolt out and never have a problem...

Well spoken Pook