: anyone interested in aluminum fair leads


TSLBOGGGER
10-17-2002, 03:41 PM
i was talkin to a machist with some cnc machines about makin me a fair lead and he said if you are going to make one on those kind of machines you had minds well make a bunch and also my cost would be down too. he said depending on the amount they would be around 40 bux which doesnt sound too bad to me just a thought

Gordon
10-17-2002, 03:44 PM
Tim at Bronco alley is selling some for $35 right now. I think Dean has some around that price too check the forsale section.

edited Tims name cause as JR pointed out I am a MORON

brainless
10-17-2002, 04:14 PM
agrro also has a nice one for 40.00 i think

patooyee
10-17-2002, 05:55 PM
Are we talking about roller fairleads for winches? Why in the world would you ask a machinist to make those for you?

J. J.

Yotaonly
10-17-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by patooyee
Are we talking about roller fairleads for winches? Why in the world would you ask a machinist to make those for you?

J. J.

Not roller fairleads, something like this:

TDW
10-17-2002, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by patooyee
Are we talking about roller fairleads for winches? Why in the world would you ask a machinist to make those for you?

J. J.

I assume, like posted above, an aluminum hawse fairlead for use with the synthetic winch rope.

JR
10-17-2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Gordon
Jack at Bronco alley is selling some for $35 right now. I think Dean has some around that price too check the forsale section.

Do you mean Tim @ Bronco Alley?

patooyee
10-18-2002, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by jesselt


Not roller fairleads, something like this:

OK ... I still don't see why one would get one made by a machine shop when, I assume, you can buy one pretty cheap from Warn or someone. Am I missing something?

J. J.

TDW
10-18-2002, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by patooyee


OK ... I still don't see why one would get one made by a machine shop when, I assume, you can buy one pretty cheap from Warn or someone. Am I missing something?

J. J.

The aluminum is less abrasive on the synthetic rope. The Warn fairlead is steel.

SpaceGhost
10-18-2002, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by TDW


The aluminum is less abrasive on the synthetic rope. The Warn fairlead is steel.

The Warn has a rough textured finish on the rope guides. Get a smoothie and your rope will love ya! Besides, I need some more bling-bling...............

rugburn
10-18-2002, 07:23 AM
We could machine them from Nylatrol or Delrin and they would be even smoother and easier on the synthetic winch rope.

Let me know.....;)

Jason M
10-18-2002, 07:31 AM
I was wondering when someone would think of a good plastic for a fairlead

Figures you did
:flipoff2:

SpaceGhost
10-18-2002, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by rugburn
We could machine them from Nylatrol or Delrin and they would be even smoother and easier on the synthetic winch rope.


Let's get busy, what else do we have to do all fall/winter? I'll dig up a stock warn or buy a kewlie aluminum one for the first prototype. Heat and friction, start the research which is better.

BTW, poly does break/crack. Maybe it's only rated at 83 mph at 42 deg.........................I'll be making new fronts in a few weeks and adding attachment points.

rkcrawl
10-18-2002, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by jesselt


Not roller fairleads, something like this:

What are the toughts of using all pro's hawse with steel cable. After destroying my roller fairlead at ERoCC this year, I want to go with a hawse. Wondering if the aluminnum one would be easier on the cable. I know it would wear, but for $40... I could replace it once a year if necessary.

rugburn
10-18-2002, 07:55 AM
you know my number...........................:p

nobody20
10-18-2002, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by rkcrawl


What are the toughts of using all pro's hawse with steel cable. After destroying my roller fairlead at ERoCC this year, I want to go with a hawse. Wondering if the aluminnum one would be easier on the cable. I know it would wear, but for $40... I could replace it once a year if necessary.

I think aluminum hawse fairlead would be a bad choice for steel cable as aluminum is much softer than steel and with a load applied to the steel cable which results in a load normal to the hawse surface the cable would cut into it quickly.

So what's wrong with using a roller fairlead with synthetic? Is it that the rope may get between the vertical and horizontal rollers at thier intersection?

SpaceGhost
10-18-2002, 08:09 AM
Yes it gets cut between the rollers, I know you can sub in bolts for the lame idler shaft/clips. Also the roller protrudes and if you catch either rope or cable between it and a rock face it's gonna be scarred, and wire WILL break!

Not to mention the kewlie factor..................

Scott@Rockstomper
10-18-2002, 08:36 AM
Don't use aluminum fairleads with steel cable.
Steel fairleads (cast iron?) are only about $30 for the Warn one; not sure on Ramsey or others. Cheaper than the aluminum.

Rollers work with synthetic (I used one for probably a year-plus) but the rollers have to be intact and in good shape. If the rollers are damaged, or the roller frame is tweeked, you'll have lotsa trouble. That's why I swapped to aluminum--a new roller is $100, a new aluminum fairlead is quite a bit less.

SpaceGhost
10-18-2002, 08:42 AM
Scott, do you have the aluminum ones for sale?

TJ99
10-18-2002, 08:59 AM
Not to change the topic but I have a new Warn roller fair lead that has only been mounted on my trailer winch that I would like to trade for a new aluminum one if anyone is interested.

Scott@Rockstomper
10-18-2002, 09:10 AM
We've got the Spidertrax ones in-stock right now; there's a pic and more info on the rope page at
http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm

I subbed in bolts as a quasi-fix when I bent mine the first time (bent it back into shape and bolted it instead of the pins) but good grief, those 5/8x9.5 grade 5 bolts cost me nearly as much as an aluminum fairlead would've. Once I bent it worse I yanked it. Yes, I'm as bad as the next guy about a cheap fix on my own truck--gotta keep prices down.

Bones
10-18-2002, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by SpaceGhost
Scott, do you have the aluminum ones for sale?
He sells the Spidertrax one for $55
http://www.rockstomper.com/images/products/recovery/rope/alfairlead.jpg

randii
10-18-2002, 12:36 PM
I'm still running my roller fairlead with my winch rope, but I have been eyeballing the snazzy aluminum hawse fairleads...

All Pro seems to have the best price ( http://www.allprooffroad.com/winches.html ) with $39 for an unpainted hawse and $49 for the painted one.
http://www.allprooffroad.com/pics/9545.jpg
Not really sure which one has more Bling, tho. :p

Randii

Pook
10-18-2002, 01:18 PM
can we say jigsaw better yet bandsaw and a router...its easy to work with aluminum go buy a small chunk and away you go custom made to your specific needs...

Aggro
10-18-2002, 02:34 PM
I have these made locally. I have been selling them for a few weeks, but my ad apparently disappeared :( $40 is what I get I think a few people saw my design (no names mentioned) and are now having them made also. anyway :