I am looking to put a mount on my Tracker for a Roof rack, I have built the rack and now am debating how I should do the mount, I am thinking best option is to get about 15 -20 feet or pipe and bend it like on the calmini rack, problem is no pipe bender :-( Also I only want the rack itself to hold 200-300 max lbs, its pretty small. Width is 45-46" and Length is about 34". Any suggestion on pipe size? and does anyone know a cheap way to get it bent? I dont want to spend 100-150 bucks to buy a pipe Bender right now. Anyone in or near SLC have a tube bender and pipe I can pay to make the mount?

Thanks

Liltrax

Most steel shops will make the bends for you. Just figure out exactly what you need and have them bend up the tube for you.

This is my solution when I needed to bend some pipes. This only works if you going with 1" pipe, thats what I use for the racks I built.
I just went to the local tool rental place and rented a conduit bender for a plumber or electrition. I haven't had any problem with getting most of the bends I wanted to make and you use your hand so you can take your time and make accurate bends.

this is on a stand and you just insert the pipe in and bend......not very hard and if you find it hard to bend the type of pipe you got you can just use a torch to heat the pipe.



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Originally posted by zukimoo
This is my solution when I needed to bend some pipes. This only works if you going with 1" pipe, thats what I use for the racks I built.
I just went to the local tool rental place and rented a conduit bender for a plumber or electrition. I haven't had any problem with getting most of the bends I wanted to make and you use your hand so you can take your time and make accurate bends.

this is on a stand and you just insert the pipe in and bend......not very hard and if you find it hard to bend the type of pipe you got you can just use a torch to heat the pipe.



92 zukimoo with piston #3 gone
87 tin top
88 soft top


This is what I was thinking of, I was concerned about bending steel pipe with a conduit bender, my brother told me to just use 1 inch conduit and id be fine. Thanks for the advice, I think ill try conduit first so I can get a good idea o0f shape then take some steel to a shop and have them emulate my Conduit, thats if the conduit is too weak to hold me up on top. I plan on jumping up there and making sure it can hold 230 lbs :-)

Originally posted by marcutah
Anyone in or near SLC have a tube bender and pipe I can pay to make the mount?


Give these guys a call-

RockLogic4x4 (http://www.rocklogic4x4.com/)

Either Von or Carl can hook you up with whatever you need. They have alot of experience with Sammis and do great work.

Tell 'em Greg sent you. (They'll charge you triple!!:flipoff2: )

This rack I made was 3/4" conduit, it was kinda heavy but it worked and it moved on;)

nice custom paint job:flipoff2: :D what did you use to mount you K/C's with??

-Jon:confused:

Originally posted by zuk_crwlr
nice custom paint job:flipoff2: :D what did you use to mount you K/C's with??

-Jon:confused:

WTF is wrong with 80's retro!? LOL I know but it was stock, I think the paint guy's at Suzuki where drinking too muck saki or something! The worse part was my brother in law bought it right off the lot and said the wheel centers where blue:barf: .....Oh and it had a white top. It's getting painted once the body work is done thank god.


the KC mounts are just cut and trimed 90* flat bar mounted on the door hinges. The act as the mount for the rack as well.

what is the drawback of using conduit for a roofrack?

Originally posted by Junkyahd Jedi
what is the drawback of using conduit for a roofrack?


My first guess would be its serioulsy weak compared to steel tubing, but Im seeing that it works for a roof rack,

Ill give rock logic a call thanks!

Originally posted by Junkyahd Jedi
what is the drawback of using conduit for a roofrack?

saying that you have a roof rack made of conduit:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Bill4rest
This rack I made was 3/4" conduit, it was kinda heavy but it worked and it moved on;)



Hey Bill, that rack and rear bumper, are still working fine on my zuk......along with one of your very first T-case buckets:D




Rick

Originally posted by marcutah



My first guess would be its serioulsy weak compared to steel tubing, but Im seeing that it works for a roof rack,

Ill give rock logic a call thanks!

It is deffently not weak! The conduit I used was 1/8" wall:eek: That's why I said it was heavy. If I where to do it again, I'd use a thinner wall conduit or 3/4" .065 tube. I only put "soft" things up there anyway to minimize the raising of the CG, ie. sleeping bags and spare cloths......the cooler and pots and pans when inside.

Just remember it's a roof rack not a roll cage;)

Originally posted by Bill4rest


saying that you have a roof rack made of conduit:flipoff2:

Dick:flipoff2:


but seriously.. if you can bend it by hand.. how strong could it be? and all the conduit I had ever seen was Galvinzed(sp?) so break out the milk if yer welding that stuff....:D

Originally posted by Junkyahd Jedi


Dick:flipoff2:


but seriously.. if you can bend it by hand.. how strong could it be? and all the conduit I had ever seen was Galvinzed(sp?) so break out the milk if yer welding that stuff....:D

Well I had to use a hydro bender and it was black pipe, at the time the dude said it was conduit but know I'm thinking maybe it was pipe :confused: It was pretty think stuff

Originally posted by Rlester




Hey Bill, that rack and rear bumper, are still working fine on my zuk......along with one of your very first T-case buckets:D




Rick

Dude I tried to find you over on ORC but I guess your account got deleted or something PM me, I have a propisition for you:D

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Well I had to use a hydro bender and it was black pipe, at the time the dude said it was conduit but know I'm thinking maybe it was pipe :confused: It was pretty think stuff

Word.. Fo Sho...


Speaking of cool shiot.. does anybody make a rack like GotZuks?

Originally posted by Bill4rest


Dude I tried to find you over on ORC but I guess your account got deleted or something PM me, I have a propisition for you:D




Bill, I shot you a PM.




Rick

Lol, if it was that hard to bend Bill it wasnt Conduit you can ALMOST bend it with your hands and alot of pressure or a good vice and alot of weight. I am willing to be you had some good steel.

Originally posted by marcutah
Lol, if it was that hard to bend Bill it wasnt Conduit you can ALMOST bend it with your hands and alot of pressure or a good vice and alot of weight. I am willing to be you had some good steel.

Well it was a long time ago, the dude at the metal place called it conduit. Do people make a heavy wall coduit:confused: It was not that hard cuz if I went passed the 90* mark I could bend it back into shape by hand in a vise.

Have no idea on heavy duty conduit, I was thinking there is only one kind but im no electrcian, was probabaly either weak steel of some sort like leaded pipe or something, I made some spacers with some metal that was threaded on one end, ALOT heavier than conduit but not as strong and cut very easily with a portaband:eek:

Petroworks makes a nice inside and outside rack. Check them out @ www.petrworks.com

Originally posted by horse_with_no_name
Petroworks makes a nice inside and outside rack. Check them out @ www.petrworks.com


You missed the point, I only need a mount for a Tracker not a kick :-)

Instead of using pipe/conduit for your main frame, try using strapping:confused:

It's metal strips (varying thickness available). It's easy to bend without a bender, and very rigid if cross supported (like a rack)

Take and make the intial loop with the strapping and weld in cross supports (pipe or conduit), then put the mesh on it.

No pics, I haven't done this yet. Been toying with the thought and seen it done before.

You're welcome to come up and use our tubing bender after hours. Its a hydraulic JD2, easy to work with. We're located in Heber.

Only problem is we only have dies down to 1" OD. Might bea big larger than you were thinking for a rack.

The invitation stands though.

Originally posted by Rocky Road
You're welcome to come up and use our tubing bender after hours. Its a hydraulic JD2, easy to work with. We're located in Heber.

Only problem is we only have dies down to 1" OD. Might bea big larger than you were thinking for a rack.

The invitation stands though.

Thats pretty darn nice of ya, do you have Pipe on hand I can purchase? I think 1" might be ok.

Liltrax

The only 1" pipe we use is .25" DOM. How beefy you want your rack to be? :D
The bender is totally easy to work with, fun! We only have round dies too.

Wasatch Steel in SLC allows you to pick up pieces in 10' lengths though, no minimum purchase requirements. I'll bet you need full 20's for a rack though. Not sure your experience with tube, sometimes it takes more material to build parts than ya'd think. Feel free to bounce your plans off me if you have Q's on quantity of steel.

Make sure to check in with me beforehand before making the trip down. Most days we pack it up about 5:30. If its nice out I'll be at the dirt bike track or mtn biking.... at least until the government makes me change my clock :mad: