: What makes a good spotter?
Just curious. I mean in a comp setting.
I assume it is a combo of mass/muscle*picking lines*mechanical ability=good spotter
What matters most?
The Jerk 10-18-2002, 10:44 AM smart, fat, and athletic
Chris Geiger 10-18-2002, 10:48 AM Must be able to get lots of time off work or be unemployed
billj 10-18-2002, 10:53 AM I´ve found that greasy Buffalo wings and lots of draft beer make me spot very well.........:eek: :p
:flipoff2: :D
The ability to talk a driver into doing something he shouldn't be doing ;)
TEX
GhettoRig 10-18-2002, 11:13 AM Gotta be able to watch all the cones and keep me out of them, while still pulling like an ox so I can get up the obstacles without actually having any driving ability. I'd take a very experienced guy that can pick lines and knows the limits of the rig over a dumb guy that can pull like a freight train. The best spotters are a combination of the two.
woody 10-18-2002, 11:13 AM the right combination of experience, seat time, strength, agility, and salesmanship!
(the last one is likely most important....heh)
BootsntheJeep 10-18-2002, 11:23 AM The ability to sprint out of the way.
rkcrawl 10-18-2002, 11:24 AM Originally posted by The Jerk
fat, and athletic
Any one else see the irony in these two "qualities"? :eek: :flipoff2:
SpaceGhost 10-18-2002, 11:35 AM Originally posted by rkcrawl
Any one else see the irony in these two "qualities"? :eek: :flipoff2:
I thought Sumo wrasslers were athletes.
billj 10-18-2002, 11:36 AM Originally posted by rkcrawl
Any one else see the irony in these two "qualities"? :eek: :flipoff2:
Offensive line of justa about any Division 1 college or pro football team. Them guys are all fat as shite but man, are they fawking fast.......
dog walker 10-18-2002, 11:50 AM The ability to be treated like a bitch! Be ready!
Originally posted by dog walker
The ability to be treated like a bitch! Be ready!
So that means swallow:eek: :flipoff2:
rkcrawl 10-18-2002, 12:20 PM Originally posted by SpaceGhost
I thought Sumo wrasslers were athletes.
Ya, but I wouldn't want one have to get out of the way or climb up a vertical obstacle in a hurry.
Big, strong, quick and agile would be requirements. Damn one of those guys might pull you back down the obstacle when his fat ass falls over.
Fat == good anchor/counter weight, but ya need more then that.
jopes 10-18-2002, 12:42 PM Originally posted by The Jerk
smart, fat, and athletic
sounds like a personel ad.
ChinLei 10-18-2002, 12:48 PM The most important quality would have to be the driver trusting what the spotter is telling him/her to do.
Mustard Dog 10-18-2002, 01:13 PM Not wearing any pants seems to be a winning stratigy:flipoff2: :D :flipoff2:
Scott@Rockstomper 10-18-2002, 01:25 PM Picking lines on the fly.
Usually I'll pick my own lines before I go in, but I slide off 'em a bit, so the spotter's gotta be able to deal.
Pulling like an ox doesn't hurt.
Ability to scream and run away (run away is more important) prior to being run over, helps too.
Unlimited time off is pretty important.
ChinLei 10-18-2002, 01:26 PM The most important quality would have to be the driver trusting what the spotter is telling him/her to do.
JS-Economos 10-18-2002, 01:29 PM Willing to risk life and limb for the good of the rig.:eek: :D :D
Scott@Rockstomper 10-18-2002, 01:47 PM I forgot... a nice rack is :cool: too, but I've never found the really important attributes all in one person. If only I could get my wife to spot... but she's in no condition to try and drag a 4k pound pile-o-parts up over a rock. She is decent at the true "spotter" end of things, but just not big enough to be physically useful on the end of a rope.
Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper
I forgot... a nice rack is :cool: too, but I've never found the really important attributes all in one person. If only I could get my wife to spot... but she's in no condition to try and drag a 4k pound pile-o-parts up over a rock. She is decent at the true "spotter" end of things, but just not big enough to be physically useful on the end of a rope.
I think you would be a PITA to spot, you take some goofy lines with mantis:D
Jayrockn7 10-18-2002, 02:22 PM It's the pink shirts:flipoff2:
Grim Reaper 10-18-2002, 02:30 PM Originally posted by TEX
The ability to talk a driver into doing something he shouldn't be doing ;)
TEX
I would say that's about 95% of it right there!
I watched a rock crawling comp at Dixie run and the drivers that would not listen to the spotter are the ones that were screwing up.
One of the best teams I saw that day was a 16 year old kid driving and his dad spotting. The kid listened to his dad and it was one of the cleanest runs I saw all day.
Spotters don't get near the credit they deserve in compitition. The Spotter on a technical course is the one that really makes a win.
You know what I'm surprised is that some of these teams don't get some handsfree 2ways going so they can tune out the crowd 100% and concentrate on comunications just between the two of them. Same comp there were so many spectators running their mouth distracting the driver and telling them what to do that it was counter productive to the event. If you have a spotter that person should be the ONLY person you pay any attention to at all.
RE:Todd 10-18-2002, 02:52 PM Originally posted by Grim Reaper
You know what I'm surprised is that some of these teams don't get some handsfree 2ways going so they can tune out the crowd 100% and concentrate on comunications just between the two of them. Same comp there were so many spectators running their mouth distracting the driver and telling them what to do that it was counter productive to the event. If you have a spotter that person should be the ONLY person you pay any attention to at all. Some of the teams I saw a couple of weeks ago at JV had this.
Originally posted by TEX
The ability to talk a driver into doing something he shouldn't be doing ;)
TEX :laughing: The driver must have confidence in all the BULLSH*T you are telling him/or her.:grinpimp:
Wilson 10-19-2002, 06:21 PM Originally posted by Grim Reaper
You know what I'm surprised is that some of these teams don't get some handsfree 2ways going so they can tune out the crowd 100% and concentrate on comunications just between the two of them.
Toyfamily and I tried this at Donner, but between our breathing and the exremely loud buggy, the mikes were locking on so we couldn't hear wat the other was saying. It would definitley help to be in constant contact like that. Nick wears a full on motocross helmet which are designed to reduce sounds.
Hey lance what kind of setup are you and shaffer using for your radios????????
Now for the spotter thing, I was chosen mostly becasue I was a toyota guy and would be able to fix the rig when it broke (as well as help build the damn thing). Trust is a big factor, there were several courses where toyfamily would yell "Wilson, I'm trusting you with my life." Unfortunately I couldn't keep the buggae from going endo on course #4. The driver needs to listen to his spotter. The spotter has a much better view of what is going on with the rig and where it is going. The driver is too occupied driving to worry about this too. So the #1 factor for a good spotter is someone you trust.
MuddMachine 10-19-2002, 08:29 PM Spotter has to speak his mind without hesitation, no time for a tea break.
redrangie 10-20-2002, 06:16 AM Someone who values your health/life/junk as much as you do. In that order.
j
SMART ASS 10-20-2002, 07:58 AM I think 4WPW makes a good spotter!
They come in white black or mexican...
:flipoff2:
Priest 10-20-2002, 08:43 AM Originally posted by Wilson
Toyfamily and I tried this at Donner, but between our breathing and the exremely loud buggy, the mikes were locking on so we couldn't hear wat the other was saying. It would definitley help to be in constant contact like that. Nick wears a full on motocross helmet which are designed to reduce sounds.
Hey lance what kind of setup are you and shaffer using for your radios????????
Now for the spotter thing, I was chosen mostly becasue I was a toyota guy and would be able to fix the rig when it broke (as well as help build the damn thing). Trust is a big factor, there were several courses where toyfamily would yell "Wilson, I'm trusting you with my life." Unfortunately I couldn't keep the buggae from going endo on course #4. The driver needs to listen to his spotter. The spotter has a much better view of what is going on with the rig and where it is going. The driver is too occupied driving to worry about this too. So the #1 factor for a good spotter is someone you trust.
Nadi make full duplex radios....just like talking on the phone.
rockdawgfj40 10-20-2002, 06:42 PM you tell them fish:flipoff2: and we should have practiced alittle down at the the clean up:beer:
Chris Geiger 10-20-2002, 06:52 PM Originally posted by Priest
Nadi make full duplex radios....just like talking on the phone.
This weekend I saw one spotter/driver team use cell phones to talk. The driver had a helmet with mounted mike and headphones built into it. The spotter used one of those small head sets that plugs into the phone. It's cheap, and allows for two way talking at the same time.
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