: hilift safety idea


Al Kaholick
10-20-2002, 08:16 PM
just thought of an idea and thought id share it since its kind of a safety thing, put holes with tubing through the ends of the bumpers big enough for the top of the hilift to fit through, that way when you have to use it at least the top of jack will be stable, so if it does fall, it wont shoot out, and it will help keep the bottom sturdy since it wont be able to rotate. Opinions? has this been done?

TNToy
10-20-2002, 08:23 PM
I've seen hi-lift "notches" in the bottom of (I think) a pair of rock sliders around before. Can't remember where or who, though.

Cheepin
10-20-2002, 08:24 PM
I built an adapter that bolted to the hilift and slid in a receiver.Worked pretty good.I lost it somewhere though.It was a piece of 2" tube that was notched and slid on the jack and bolted to it.Blazin:D

Al Kaholick
10-20-2002, 08:27 PM
cool, i was just thinking about how much i hate those things and trying to think how to make it safer since sometimes its all that will work, i figurd putting them on the corners would be nice since most of the time only one corner needs to be up, I hate it when trucks fall

FatA$$ Toyota
10-20-2002, 08:37 PM
Roger Brown did it.


http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/ForSale/index.shtml

Al Kaholick
10-20-2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by FatA$$ Toyota
Roger Brown did it.


http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/ForSale/index.shtml

nice, but its actually not what i had in mind, i mean vertical tubes, so the shaft of the jack is stuck there and cannot shoot out

Toyman
10-20-2002, 08:41 PM
It won't shoot out, but it would bend the jack. Safer yes, more costly though.

davids78bronco
10-20-2002, 08:43 PM
I didn't use, or make, holes in a rear bumper I built, but I 'notched' the ends

http://davids78bigbronco.netfirms.com/4x4Hi-Liftjackpoint.JPG

RHINO
10-20-2002, 08:44 PM
part of the whole idea behind the hi-lift is to be able to push your vehicle sideways off the jack and out of the hole/rut or whatever you got stuck in.

Al Kaholick
10-20-2002, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Toyman
It won't shoot out, but it would bend the jack. Safer yes, more costly though.

ive had mine come out pretty quick, never been in its way though luckily, id rather have a bent jack than a cracked skull, and if youre under it it may buy some time to get out befor the truck falls

LOKNLOD
10-20-2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Al Kaholick


ive had mine come out pretty quick, never been in its way though luckily, id rather have a bent jack than a cracked skull, and if youre under it it may buy some time to get out befor the truck falls

Dude if you're crawling around under a truck on a hi-lift, it's a bit late to start worrying about trying to be safe :eek:

FULLSIZE
10-20-2002, 09:13 PM
i've seen little peices of rebar welded under the bumper so it wont slide out sideways. personally i've never had a problem with a highlift "spitting out".:p

Whaley Enterprises
10-20-2002, 09:17 PM
if u are FAWKIN scared of a high lift then u BETTER NOT USE IT...safety is learning how to use one properly and most havent a clue how to use one to free there rig once they are high centered on the rocks...seems everyone has one but nobody has a clue..highlifting is art. go out and practice its amazing how much better it works in the rocks than a winch...oh and hey ppl spray some motorcycle chain lube on your jack so when otter come looking for one i wont be cursing at u.. notches baahh hook that thing on the bumper and or rocker and jack away when it kicks out just reset it youll get the hang of it. thats why the handle is 3ft long u can stay the hell outa the way...i am going do a video
"otters guide to ill-legimate highlift jacking the most misunderstood tool a 4wheeler can own" :flipoff2:

minigmh
10-20-2002, 09:45 PM
I usually use a come along, a strap, or a winch cable to tie the truck to something before lifting it with a hi lift. Figure three points are needed for balance, the hi lift, the cable, and what ever you are stuck pivoting on. Of course you have to be in tune with balance, anticipate where the support is needed, and where it will go when lifted.

kidwired
10-26-2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by OTTERGONEJPN
if u are FAWKIN scared of a high lift then u BETTER NOT USE IT...safety is learning how to use one properly and most havent a clue how to use one to free there rig once they are high centered on the rocks...seems everyone has one but nobody has a clue..highlifting is art. go out and practice its amazing how much better it works in the rocks than a winch...oh and hey ppl spray some motorcycle chain lube on your jack so when otter come looking for one i wont be cursing at u.. notches baahh hook that thing on the bumper and or rocker and jack away when it kicks out just reset it youll get the hang of it. thats why the handle is 3ft long u can stay the hell outa the way...i am going do a video
"otters guide to ill-legimate highlift jacking the most misunderstood tool a 4wheeler can own" :flipoff2:

You gotta quit hangin out w/ the JU'ers :D
if your not afraid of a hilift spittin out while your underneath strippin your axle to a bare housing then your not very bright.

SCOTTS_4X
10-26-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by RHINO
part of the whole idea behind the hi-lift is to be able to push your vehicle sideways off the jack and out of the hole/rut or whatever you got stuck in.

that's what I always thought.........

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LOKNLOD

Dude if you're crawling around under a truck on a hi-lift, it's a bit late to start worrying about trying to be safe [QUOTE]

that too!

-Scott

scoutver5.7
10-27-2002, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by FULLSIZE
i've seen little peices of rebar welded under the bumper so it wont slide out sideways. personally i've never had a problem with a highlift "spitting out".:p

That's what I did. Welded two little pieces of rebar to all four corners of the bumpers. It'll lean over nearly 45 degrees before it falls off.:D

rkcrawl
10-27-2002, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by OTTERGONEJPN
if u are FAWKIN scared of a high lift then u BETTER NOT USE IT...safety is learning how to use one properly and most havent a clue how to use one to free there rig once they are high centered on the rocks...seems everyone has one but nobody has a clue..highlifting is art. go out and practice its amazing how much better it works in the rocks than a winch...oh and hey ppl spray some motorcycle chain lube on your jack so when otter come looking for one i wont be cursing at u.. notches baahh hook that thing on the bumper and or rocker and jack away when it kicks out just reset it youll get the hang of it. thats why the handle is 3ft long u can stay the hell outa the way...i am going do a video
"otters guide to ill-legimate highlift jacking the most misunderstood tool a 4wheeler can own" :flipoff2:


Ya ok... that 3 ft handle can and will hurt you. A friend of mine was on the scene of a trialside accident related to a Hi-Lift. That handle took out an eye, and darn near the guy who lost the eye.

There is MORE then one use for your hi-lift beside rocking off a stuck. Having somekind of notches to keep it from kicking out when changing a flat is just plain smart. Take your blinders off man. :flipoff2:

kwrangln
10-27-2002, 05:25 PM
To hell with the tubes, notches, and tabs. I cant believe no one has brought up the old trick of strapping the axle to the frame yet. Cinch the axle as tight as you can so that your lifting the tire and not stretching the suspension. Its amazing that since you dont have to lift it so high, its ummmmm, well, ............... MORE STABLE. Who woulda thought.:flipoff2:

Bill Collins
10-27-2002, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by kwrangln
To hell with the tubes, notches, and tabs. I cant believe no one has brought up the old trick of strapping the axle to the frame yet. Cinch the axle as tight as you can so that your lifting the tire and not stretching the suspension. Its amazing that since you dont have to lift it so high, its ummmmm, well, ............... MORE STABLE. Who woulda thought.:flipoff2: bling bling:D

Welby
10-27-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by OTTERGONEJPN
if u are FAWKIN scared of a high lift then u BETTER NOT USE IT... thats why the handle is 3ft long u can stay the hell outa the way...:flipoff2: \

No, that handle is 3 feet long so you have the leverage to easily lift 3,000 + lbs. into the air. Like others, have said; If you're not afraid of a High-Lift, you're a bit stupid. It only takes 1 second of inattention to wind up with a cracked skull.
I had to jack mine up by the rocker once to put a rear coil back in, in the middle of a 3 step waterfall with the Jeep strapped to a tree to keep from rolling. We got it back together, but that friggin' jack was under close watch the entire time. Pay attention, fawkers :flipoff2:

bronco78
10-27-2002, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by rkcrawl



Ya ok... that 3 ft handle can and will hurt you. A friend of mine was on the scene of a trialside accident related to a Hi-Lift. That handle took out an eye, and darn near the guy who lost the eye.

There is MORE then one use for your hi-lift beside rocking off a stuck. Having somekind of notches to keep it from kicking out when changing a flat is just plain smart. Take your blinders off man. :flipoff2:

If all you are doing is changing a flat, or removing a tire for what ever reason. Use a chain choker to stop suspension movement and axle droop. This way you will only have to lift the vehicle a few inches. I’ve also seen vehicles with grab hooks built on to the axle housing and frame, so only a short piece of chain is needed.

miniyota
10-27-2002, 06:30 PM
i have had mine sip out once. it went flying :eek: . i'm just glad i had time to run around to the side of my truck to get out of the way!:D

if i'm changing a tire i strap my axle to the frame and then i don't have to lift the truck up as high and have it all aqward!

if your scared of it falling down maybe you need to find a better way of jacking your vehicle. that way you won't lose a body part. i carry a small hydralic bottle jack too. that is a life saver if you have to work on something under the vehicle.

you'd have to be stupid to get under a vehicle jacked up on a high lift. your just asking to get smashed!:rolleyes:

Grim Reaper
10-28-2002, 09:12 AM
I welded some 1/4 plate strips to the underside of my bumpers. In some instance you want it to kick out. Several times I have had to move a vehicle sideways. Jack it to the top and push it over cow tipping style.
When I'm changing tires I lift as little as possible. I chain the axle to the frame so I only have to lift the truck 6 to 8 inches. It's fairly stable at that hight because the other three tires will keep it stable. They don't become unstable till you unload another tire to the point it can slip sideways. Hel my truck has enough droop that I couldn't get the tires off with my 48 inch that I carry. I don't want a 60 because of storage problems. My jack stand vertical on the back of the truck and the 48 clears the roof by about 6 inches and snags branches.

kidwired
10-28-2002, 09:44 AM
if I'm gonna be underneath I shove sumthin underneath, usually a tire.
in this pic one side is on the tire, the hi lift is still holding the other side but a tire is under there too. so at least if it falls your chest doesnt get crushed.
http://www.rps4wd.com/webimg/album1/images/1kidshaftbroke_jpg.jpg

MellowYellow
10-28-2002, 10:05 AM
I’ve also seen vehicles with grab hooks built on to the axle housing and frame

Ok, another thing added to my list. That is a very good idea.

BrettM
10-28-2002, 11:56 AM
I carry some small 2ton jackstands in my toolbox. there is no way I'm going to do anything under a hi-lifted vehicle without something else holding it up.

bronco78
10-28-2002, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by MellowYellow


Ok, another thing added to my list. That is a very good idea.

and works very well... But I used the wrong words when I wrote that..

It really is not a hook, though that would work also.. What I've seen used better is what is used on most wreckers or roll backs.. small piece of plate steel, with a hole and slot cut in it.. pass the chain link through the hole, and into the slot.. This locks the chain in place with no other device. So two small tabs at each corner and your all set. I've cut the tabs for mine,,,, now just need to get off my but and weld um on....... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list at this point.

Spank
10-28-2002, 12:53 PM
Here's an interesting way to stabilize a Hi-lift.
Wow, I almost forgot how pretty my Jeep used to be.
http://www.dst4x4club.com/images/brokewill.jpg