: More Rockwell Q's


1SAWB
10-21-2002, 07:37 AM
OK GETTIN MY ROCKWELLS AND I NEED A FEW PICS OF THEM INSTALLED THE PICS IM MOST INTERESTEDS IN ARE OF DRIVELINE .. AND I SEE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TURNING THE DROP OUT 180 DEG HOW AND WHY PICS

elf_cruiser
10-21-2002, 08:15 AM
AND I SEE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TURNING THE DROP OUT 180 DEG HOW AND WHY PICS

http://www.extremevehicledesign.com/ProjectPita/pics/rearaxlein2.htm

flipping the center section 180 deg. as shown, gets the pinion centered... This only works on a front end for rear steering use. If you flip the carrier on a rear Rockwell, you'll just move it from one side to the other, which is pointless. As for the pinion brake, it's been beaten to death, please search.

1SAWB
10-21-2002, 08:43 AM
IS IT THAT SIMPLE JUST TURN IT AROUND????

elf_cruiser
10-21-2002, 08:47 AM
nope, you gotta drill and tap like 6 or 8 new holes, somethin like that. Jeeper111 will see this post soon, and he can tell you exactly what he did, that's his POS heep...

JEEPRZ
10-21-2002, 08:57 AM
Gotta drill 8 new holes. Im in the middle of doin mine now. :rolleyes:

1SAWB
10-22-2002, 07:29 AM
KEEP THEM COMIN

KAcrawler
10-22-2002, 10:10 AM
i helped jeeper flip his pinion, it wasn't that bad we did it in about 2 hours. the hardest part was marking where the holes go because the pinion is in the way. I put the pinion down in the axle and spray painted where to mark the holes

wanderingwillys
10-22-2002, 03:23 PM
Not to hijack your thread but I was wondering if anyone had rough measurements of the steering axle (length overall, height and depth of the tubes) and the rough height and width of the 3rd member; Finally the location of the center of the third member in relation to the knuckle kingpins would be nice too:

Reason I ask is I want to start work on the basic frame for my 43' MB and need a few measurements to mock up some crude dummy axles until I can get a pair of the fronts.

I am planning to set it up using two fronts so the front axle dimentions are the only measurements I need...

Thanks and :beer: :beer: :beer: to who ever take the time to run a tape measure!

Matt:D

coyote
10-22-2002, 04:22 PM
elf get out that measuring stick and get the man some number's...ya have no job, the axles were out...so it should be real easy....tell you one thing you better have a good lift and strong back for those axles.....

Coyote

steve gerstner
10-22-2002, 04:41 PM
I SEE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TURNING THE DROP OUT 180 DEG. If you are going to drive this on the road,the 2 1/2 ton front has 2 degrees negitive castor, it is difficult to drive on the road,when you turn it around it becomes 2 degrees positive castor and it helps, but 5 on 6 degrees is ideal. steve differential eng. inc.

elf_cruiser
10-22-2002, 08:10 PM
elf get out that measuring stick and get the man some number's...ya have no job, the axles were out...so it should be real easy....tell you one thing you better have a good lift and strong back for those axles.....


actually, they are back in already. Got a few more things to do tomorrow, and then be done with it. Here are a few basics:

WMS with hubs flipped out - 79.5"
WMS with hubs in - 69.5"
Axle tubes are 3.75" square
length overall is about 83-84"
pinion center is about 8" above axle centerline, top of carrier is 3" above pinion center.
pinion is offset about a foot from axle center.
the center of the center section is about 8" off from center.

HTH!

jeeper111
10-22-2002, 08:39 PM
The caster doesn't matter because your just going to be flipping the carrier in a rear steer app. anyway and you wouldn't use that on the road. I think your talking about flipping the whole axle which I didnt do because I knew I would need a CV in the rear and the negative caster helps to cut down on how far the tire lays over in the back. I believe I am in the neighbor hood of 8 degrees of caster set to the right angle which should be just fine for a rear steer app.

wanderingwillys
10-23-2002, 11:15 PM
Thanks! Those are pretty much everything I need - the only other thing I was wondering about was the diameter of the third member - your saying about 11" above axle center line and the middle is 8" from the middle of the axle, but how wide is the whole deal - bolt hole to bolt hole along the axle tube...

I also found a local fire dept that has a sweet duece converted into a fire truck for wildfires - I am going to stop and talk to the guy who is doing all the work in the next few days, I can get some better dimentions off the front end of that one if anything else comes up; Thanks again

Matt :D
Originally posted by elf_cruiser



actually, they are back in already. Got a few more things to do tomorrow, and then be done with it. Here are a few basics:

WMS with hubs flipped out - 79.5"
WMS with hubs in - 69.5"
Axle tubes are 3.75" square
length overall is about 83-84"
pinion center is about 8" above axle centerline, top of carrier is 3" above pinion center.
pinion is offset about a foot from axle center.
the center of the center section is about 8" off from center.

HTH!