I have a standard 79.9" wheelbase frame, and was curious as to where most of you would stretch the wheelbase at to get around 90-92" worth... I don't want lots of frame sticking out in the rear past the tub, but don't really care in the front. Im using XJ springs all around, and was curious what your thoughts would be. Stretch in the rear and front, just the rear, just the front, etc... I am thinking all of this due to weight distribution, if you stretch mostly in the front, your motor sits back and the weight is more centered, but i dunno, any ideas? Im down to the frame now, just gotta make all the mounts and such...

personally i'd just widen open the stock spring hangers so they fit the 2.5" wide springs but leave them mount right where they would stock, then the length of the springs would lengthen your w/b..... then extend the front on the ends to mount your shackles......... that way your not cutting and lengthing the frame and having to worry about body mount changes( if your using the sammy body) and you equally lengthen it about 8"(???) front and rear...... i don't know how long your springs are but it would through your w/b out how ever much longer the springs are from stock.....
just the way i would do it......:flipoff2:

You've been pretty quiet lately mud magnet, working on your rig?
Did you make it out to the trail run with the east coast crawlers?
Ken

Yeah I would do what mud-magnet said. Mount the springs in the stock location, but also turn the packs around like Fatkid did on his. That looks like it works pretty well.

WELL IM AT 87" AND RUNNING 38"SXS WITH CJ SPRINGS AND MOVING THE SPRING PERCHES . OH YEA I PUT SOME CRUSIER AXELS UNDER IT.

Originally posted by godzuki
WELL IM AT 87" AND RUNNING 38"SXS WITH CJ SPRINGS AND MOVING THE SPRING PERCHES . OH YEA I PUT SOME CRUSIER AXELS UNDER IT.

Damn, my ears!

Stop yelling already.

r@m

There are a number of options, and all are pretty good.

Since you are running leaf springs, that kills leaving the frame along, and using a 3 or 4 link suspension to stretch things out.

I myself added several inches to the front of the frame as this made room for my longer springs, and a nice place ti sit the winch.

I have seen one where the guy cut his frame right about the shock mount area on the front, and stretch the frame there. This gave about the same as above, but added some more axles clearance. Seems to work well.

I debated cutting the frame around the middle and stretching there, but the taper of the frame rails was going to make that a little tougher.

The long and the short of it comes down to a few things. tire size, suspension type, and do you want to maintain the rear of the tub?

For myself, I needed room for my front tires to clear my firewall with a shackle reversal, so stretching the front made very good sense. Keeping the rear tub will be nice in these cooler months were running a soft top will be an advantage.

-Wayne

My wheel base is at the 94" mark and it been really cool, the Sammy works so much better than before. However it didn't really feel like I had to learn to drive the rig again.:)

using yj springs and the stock spring locations, about what will that put my wheelbase at. I'm currently looking into swtiching to 44's and shooting for around the 90-94 inch wb mark but want to keep my tub somewhat intacted.

try searching the board for "extended wheelbase"

fawking "wheelers":flipoff2: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=420826

Originally posted by Slowzuki
You've been pretty quiet lately mud magnet, working on your rig?
Did you make it out to the trail run with the east coast crawlers?
Ken


no ken, i didn't get to it....... i really wanted to go, got some awesome rocks down there, but i shreaded a chunk out of my baby lobster t-case, the piece that the long arm threads into tore off...... so its in the garage waiting to get anouther t-case put in....... and i got some sidekick seats mounted in it, nice and comffy now.....:D..... and along with a few other thinkgs i'm getting done to it.... so between that and hunting season opening in 2 days i was getting my blind set up.....
ttyl

but i shreaded a chunk out of my baby lobster t-case, the piece that the long arm threads into tore off......

Your the only other person i've heard thats done that. That happened to me at SOR, ended up coming out of the bottom of walker in high range :eek:

had some real interesting driveline angles on the way home thats for damn sure

mine held up quite well, in fact i didn't notice it till i was swaping in sidekick seats into my zuki....... thats when i saw it split...... but there was still one bolt threaded in but wasnt tight......... :D